The Last Dance - A 10-PART DOCUMENTARY EVENT

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Imagine if Orlando woolridge knew how to pass the ball
 

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n_huffhines said:
Remember when the '94 Bulls won 55 games without MJ?

MJ had all the help in the world
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Remember when they brought in several player that off season? This is one of the dumbest arguments that only casuals use. They added a ton of contributors.

"Several players from the three-peat teams were still on board, including B.J. Armstrong, Bill Cartwright and Horace Grant, while newcomers Toni Kukoc, Steve Kerr and Bill Wennington, as well as Luc Longley in a February trade for Stacey King, were added to the mix. "
 
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95 Vol Alum said:
In defense, Roberson would be all world everything in 90’s basketball.
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There were a ton of Andre Robersons back then and were just as bad as he is now. He would have been even worse then.

There are a ton of ok guys from the 80s and 90s especially at guard that would be All Stars today with the rule changes. Hell Abdul Raouf would be Steph Curry.

John Starks would be Russ Westbrook that can shoot if he played right now.
 
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k-town_king said:
Remember when they brought in several player that off season? This is one of the dumbest arguments that only casuals use. They added a ton of contributors.

"Several players from the three-peat teams were still on board, including B.J. Armstrong, Bill Cartwright and Horace Grant, while newcomers Toni Kukoc, Steve Kerr and Bill Wennington, as well as Luc Longley in a February trade for Stacey King, were added to the mix. "
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If you think those guys are good replacements for MJ + Perdue, I'll accept this argument.

Wennington and Longley are just bodies and personally, I've always thought Kukoc was very overrated, and he was fkn terrible in 1994 (0.497 TS% and .271 from 3p). Kerr was pretty good that year.
 
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n_huffhines said:
If you think those guys are good replacements for MJ + Perdue, I'll accept this argument.

Wennington and Longley are just bodies and personally, I've always thought Kukoc was very overrated, and he was fkn terrible in 1994 (0.497 TS% and .271 from 3p). Kerr was pretty good that year.
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The Lakers picked up Lebron and won two games mores. I guess Deng and Corey Brewer are good replacements for Lebron.
 
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volsarelife1 said:
Lets see if you mention the Cavs and Heat after LeBron left.
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Let's mention the Bulls when Mike left after the last Three Peat and were the worst team in the NBA.

Let's mention that Wade and Bosh were both averaging over 20 after LeBron left and the Heat were on the way to the playoffs before they both got hurt.
 
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k-town_king said:
Let's mention the Bulls when Mike left after the last Three Peat and were the worst team in the NBA.

Let's mention that Wade and Bosh were both averaging over 20 after LeBron left and the Heat were on the way to the playoffs before they both got hurt.
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You still left out the records. And didn't even mention the Cavs going from best record with LeBron. To worst without him. Wonder why you skipped over that. I'm sure that was by accident.
 
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volsarelife1 said:
You still left out the records. And didn't even mention the Cavs going from best record with LeBron. To worst without him. Wonder why you skipped over that. I'm sure that was by accident.
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Or that several guys were injured when Lebron played for the Lakers in year 1.
 
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k-town_king said:
Let's mention the Bulls when Mike left after the last Three Peat and were the worst team in the NBA.

Let's mention that Wade and Bosh were both averaging over 20 after LeBron left and the Heat were on the way to the playoffs before they both got hurt.
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And no Rodman and no Pippen, LOL

Dude, how do you even think this is a valid point? Do you think we don't know?

I didn't bring up Lebron leaving the Heat because I don't think it's fair to compare them with Bosh and Wade being banged up, but you have no shame about this ****.
 
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BTW, big shout out to Bobby Knight who called MJ "the best basketball player I've ever seen" in 1984. Man, he got way out in front of that one.
 
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n_huffhines said:
BTW, big shout out to Bobby Knight who called MJ "the best basketball player I've ever seen" in 1984. Man, he got way out in front of that one.
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So they had US Olympic tryouts before the NBA draft. Knight and Portland's GM at the time (can't remember who) are discussing players and Knight won't shut up about Jordan. He says you have to take Jordan, he's a mega star, hardest worker I ever had, etc. Portland's GM then retorts that he really needs a center and Knight replied back "Well playing him at ****ing center then!".
 
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My only memories of Jordan playing were with the Wizards. Unfortunately I was 5-10 years to late to appreciate Jordan in his prime Bulls run. Watching this documentary was awesome. Didn't know much outside of what you read and hear from the media. Getting to see people who actually were inside it was pretty cool. I really need to go back and watch some of the late 80s/90s nba more.
 
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LittleCat said:
My only memories of Jordan playing were with the Wizards. Unfortunately I was 5-10 years to late to appreciate Jordan in his prime Bulls run. Watching this documentary was awesome. Didn't know much outside of what you read and hear from the media. Getting to see people who actually were inside it was pretty cool. I really need to go back and watch some of the late 80s/90s nba more.
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Some of this footage is incredible. I'd never seen most of the Scottie college stuff. I loved the post-game shenanigans after the Bulls won that world tourney.

BTW, Pip's wife responded to the internet freaking out about Scottie being underpaid by pointing out that they're doing just fine...he actually outearned MJ in terms of salary (over $100m for his career). What an asset that was to have a top 5 player in the league on a $3m/yr contract, tho.
 
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n_huffhines said:
BTW, the data I'd kill to see is what Jordan shot from 10-16' and 16-22'. I'd guess he's the best mid range shooter ever, but IDK because the basketball-reference data only goes back to 2001
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I had the idea that I should check this since I hadn't looked in a while. They've got it going back to 1997 now.

Jordan shot 48% from 10-16' and 51% from 16-22'
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In 1998 it dropped to 41% and 45%, respectively.
 
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This is a cool graphic. Lebron is the big yellow circle partially obscured by Durant. Check out Iverson. All alone down there with the low-efficiency dinosaurs (it was probably good efficiency then).

 
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