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"They said, 'We're ramming (the suspect),' " Shoupe told a deputy in body-camera footage obtained by CNN this week. "I said, 'Don't ram him. Shoot him.' "F*** that s***. You're gonna tear my cars up."

The chase began on a late April afternoon when police in Smithville, in DeKalb County some 55 miles southeast of Nashville, tried to pull Dial over on suspicion of driving with a suspended license,

"If they don't think I'll give the damn order to kill that mother*****, they full of s***."

"I love this s***. God, I tell you what, I thrive on it."

Tennessee Sheriff Oddie Shoupe sued after deadly pursuit - CNN

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"They said, 'We're ramming (the suspect),' " Shoupe told a deputy in body-camera footage obtained by CNN this week. "I said, 'Don't ram him. Shoot him.' "F*** that s***. You're gonna tear my cars up."

The chase began on a late April afternoon when police in Smithville, in DeKalb County some 55 miles southeast of Nashville, tried to pull Dial over on suspicion of driving with a suspended license,

"If they don't think I'll give the damn order to kill that mother*****, they full of s***."

"I love this s***. God, I tell you what, I thrive on it."

Tennessee Sheriff Oddie Shoupe sued after deadly pursuit - CNN

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'Just shoot me,' an armed man told a cop. The officer didn't — and was fired, his lawsuit claimed

As Mader ordered the man to show his hands, Williams did, revealing a handgun. Mader ordered him to drop the weapon.

"I can't do that," Williams responded, according to court documents. "Just shoot me."

Even as Mader attempted to de-escalate the situation, Williams pleaded repeatedly: "Just shoot me."

Mader, who is white, didn't shoot, thinking deadly force wasn't necessary. In those tense moments, he reasoned that Williams, who was black, was a threat to himself but not to others.

But as Mader was attempting to talk Williams down, two more Weirton police officers arrived on the scene. As they did, Williams raised his gun - and was shot and killed by another officer.

A month after the incident, Mader would be fired from the department for "failing to meet probationary standards of an officer" and "apparent difficulties in critical incident reasoning." He would also be publicly accused of having frozen and privately called a "coward" by a colleague, court documents revealed.
 
"He Never Went In": Officer On Duty Filmed "Doing Nothing" During Florida Shooting

Video evidence reveals that an armed Broward County resource deputy stationed at Stoneman Douglas High School during the Valentine's day massacre did "nothing" during the shooting - instead waiting outside as a gunman opened fire on students and teachers, killing 17.

Speaking at a press conference, Broward Sheriff Scott Israel said the on duty officer at Stoneman "never went in." Israel said he was "devastated" after watching the video showing the deputy taking a position outside the Western side of Building 12 while shots rang out, "and he never went in" despite having a clear view of the entrance.

When asked by a reporter what the deputy should have done, the Sheriff replied "Went in. Address the killer. Kill the killer."

It's so easy to pull guns on helpless civilians that have busted taillights and might have some reefer in the glove box.
 
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So let’s get this straight. He had the time in, he was allowed to retire, ah, let’s just dig up the actual quote from the sheriff, shall we?

"As is his right, Scot Peterson chose to resign, because he has the necessary time with the agency and meets the requirements of retirement, he resigned and retired."

So..... that being the case, are the good people of Broward county going to have to pay this man his pension? I’m sorry, but, dereliction of duty should disqualify him from ANY future benefits. That is, unless he wants to go knock on the door of the parents he so terribly failed.....

As we see folks, time and time again, you are on your own. But don’t worry, the state wants to leave you disarmed to face these threats. Because that’s what they chose to blame, our guns. Not the abject failure of law enforcement from the local level all the way to Uncle Scam at the fbi.
The good sheriff even sat on the stage and went on and on at great length about how our guns are the problem....


Good night, and good luck.
 
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So let’s get this straight. He had the time in, he was allowed to retire, ah, let’s just dig up the actual quote from the sheriff, shall we?

"As is his right, Scot Peterson chose to resign, because he has the necessary time with the agency and meets the requirements of retirement, he resigned and retired."

So..... that being the case, are the good people of Broward county going to have to pay this man his pension? I’m sorry, but, dereliction of duty should disqualify him from ANY future benefits. That is, unless he wants to go knock on the door of the parents he so terribly failed.....

As we see folks, time and time again, you are on your own. But don’t worry, the state wants to leave you disarmed to face these threats. Because that’s what they chose to blame, our guns. Not the abject failure of law enforcement from the local level all the way to Uncle Scam at the fbi.
The good sheriff even sat on the stage and went on and on at great length about how our guns are the problem....


Good night, and good luck.

I'm not sure if the county (other than the sheriff) can step in and do anything. It'd be nice if they could and would.

**** that guy. Disgrace to both the profession and to being a human being. You wear the badge, you run to the gunfire.
 
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Can't imagine living with yourself the rest of your life if you puss out like that. A good death > a ****ty existence
 
Can't imagine living with yourself the rest of your life if you puss out like that. A good death > a ****ty existence

Odds are good he would have survived anyways. On paper he is better trained, has body armor (though it may not be rated for rifles), and most likely had an M4 in the trunk. He went full on Upham and he has to live with that.
 
Can't imagine living with yourself the rest of your life if you puss out like that. A good death > a ****ty existence

Agree. I won’t pretend taking a life is easy to live with. But I’m certain it would be exponentially easier to live with than knowing you could’ve saved lives.
 
Agree. I won’t pretend taking a life is easy to live with. But I’m certain it would be exponentially easier to live with than knowing you could’ve saved lives.

Yeah, I'm not gonna go overboard with my judgement. Few people know what they would actually do in the situation, but bottom line is he passed on the opportunity/duty and anybody who is not a sociopath will live with a mountain of regret.
 
It takes a lot of courage to run towards gun fire. It's scary AF but that's the job. If you're not up for it, you shouldn't be wearing a badge. The man's a coward...but no one is braver than when behind a screen and a keyboard.

There are certain risks you assume when you decide to choose a profession. He chose to be a school security officer. If he wasn't down with that, then he shouldn't have signed up. That isn't keyboard warrior talk, just common sense.
 
It's really hard for me to imagine what it'd be like to be in that situation, but I can say it's infuriating to read the story. Wtf
 
It takes a lot of courage to run towards gun fire. It's scary AF but that's the job. If you're not up for it, you shouldn't be wearing a badge. The man's a coward...but no one is braver than when behind a screen and a keyboard.

Look's like he had 3 buddies with him...

"Shocked And Outraged": Four Broward Deputies Waited Outside School As Children Were Massacred

Some Coral Springs police were stunned and upset that the four original Broward County Sheriff's deputies who were first on the scene did not appear to join them as they entered the school, Coral Springs sources tell CNN. It's unclear whether the shooter was still in the building when they arrived.

It used to be that we complained that cops didn't do much "serving" in "protect and serve". Now, they don't seem to do much "protecting", either.
 
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