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FLVOL_79 said:
I don't think he wants to destroy the country. He has no idea what he is doing and no one is giving him good advice. I think he is just a manchurian candidate at this point and Miller and Kushner are calling all the shots.
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I think he does whatever serves him best. If the country is destroyed on his self serving path, he won't care.
 
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LouderVol said:
its hard to know where to start because it was one thing. I said we put the Mullahs in power in the 50s, instead of saying the Shah. I even admitted to being wrong, so its not likely I am burying my head and refusing to acknowledge where I was wrong, like you on Chamberlain not wanting a new war in 1941.

you realize the war is still on going right? its not over, until then its impossible to speak towards any of that. at this point in Afghanistan I am pretty sure al qaeda was pushed back to the mountains, and somewhere near Iraq there was a "Mission Accomplished" banner flying.

the border crossing fix is only temporary. Trump could support and help push thru legislation to change that flood to avoid future problems. but he isn't because he isn't actually changing the game.

you really think the tariff income in 2026 is going to be 300%, or within a reasonable percentage of that, more than 2025? before the refunds that was a tall ask, now after the tariffs I see it as pretty much a mathmatical impossibility.

Russia's influence was already gone. Trump hasn't done anything to reduce China, if anything they got more influence due to Trump's tariffs pushing nations TO china.

once again, the US doesn't not control ALL the major choke points. you couldn't even point to a single one we have noticeably increased OUR control of.
Panama is less Chinese, not more American.
Hormuz WAS open, now its closed.
seriously what choke point do we control?

dude we have been displaying our power for the better part of 3 decades. anyone who hasn't noticed it now is too stupid to appreciate it now.
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Once again. you"ll see.
 
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rikberry31 said:
Are we winning?
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We are at the point in America where the left wants Trump to lose so bad. I honestly think they would cheer the sinking of one of our ships just to make Trump look bad. This is where we're at. It's years of college indoctrination and the loss of any moral compass. This is why the left vote for communist and socialist now
 
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BernardKingGOAT said:
I think he does whatever serves him best. If the country is destroyed on his self serving path, he won't care.
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How is he destroyed the country? What has he done? Not following in line with the European union? Not bending the need to china? You bearded and Woodsman need to find a cabin in the mountains for about a week
 
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trout-vol said:
How is he destroyed the country? What has he done? Not following in line with the European union? Not bending the need to china? You bearded and Woodsman need to find a cabin in the mountains for about a week
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"If the country is destroyed".

Trump doesn't care about you, but you are one of his millions of useful idiots
 
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trout-vol said:
How is he destroyed the country? What has he done? Not following in line with the European union? Not bending the need to china? You bearded and Woodsman need to find a cabin in the mountains for about a week
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Destroying..not destroyed. The Democrat made up hoax word affordability gonna be a big one in the future..
 
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trout-vol said:
We are at the point in America where the left wants Trump to lose so bad. I honestly think they would cheer the sinking of one of our ships just to make Trump look bad. This is where we're at. It's years of college indoctrination and the loss of any moral compass. This is why the left vote for communist and socialist now
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Socialism is in the White House right now buddy
 
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Smokey123 said:
Socialism is in the White House right now buddy
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He doesn't understand basic economics terms. At least he stopped calling everyone a Marxist but now I guess we're all communists or socialists. Of course if he understood the terms he might understand why there's the pushback on Trump. Another sad but very common example of an uneducated electorate
 
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MontyPython said:
Which liars to believe... our President or the Iranians...

Honestly, Iran's explanation makes more sense. Why would we stop our operation (after only 1 day) to keep Hormuz open if it were successful and maintainable?

We wouldn't.

We would actually continue the operation until the Iranians caved to our demands, not prior to them possibly, maybe agreeing to something in the future.

Trump's rationale is crap.

I smell TACOs again!

Iranian state media say Trump backed down from "Project Freedom" operation in Strait of Hormuz​

Iran touted the “US failure to achieve its objectives in the so-called ‘Freedom Project’” in a statement on INSA, a state-run media outlet, following President Donald Trump’s announcement he was pausing the effort.

The INSA statement said Trump called off the operation “following firm positions and warnings from Iran.”

State-run Tasnim also hailed the move in a post on its Farsi-language account on X, describing it as: “Trump Backs Down.”

In his announcement suspending Project Freedom, Trump cited progress in diplomatic talks as a reason for pausing the program, which aimed to use US military assets to help guide commercial ships through the Strait of Hormuz.
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Trump will not resolve the Iran problem he created without looking weak. I bet Iran bout to get pallets of cash and increased influence in the ME..which ironically was one of the myriad of excused Trump had for attacking them, lessen their influence..
 
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trout-vol said:
We are at the point in America where the left wants Trump to lose so bad. I honestly think they would cheer the sinking of one of our ships just to make Trump look bad. This is where we're at. It's years of college indoctrination and the loss of any moral compass. This is why the left vote for communist and socialist now
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Trump doesn’t need any help looking bad. Keep licking his boot though, I’m sure one day you’ll be rewarded.
 
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trout-vol said:
We are at the point in America where the left wants Trump to lose so bad. I honestly think they would cheer the sinking of one of our ships just to make Trump look bad. This is where we're at. It's years of college indoctrination and the loss of any moral compass. This is why the left vote for communist and socialist now
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The TDS has made the left and the Never Trumpers mentally ill. They believe so many lies and ignore so much reality that they go insane.
 
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