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#26,177
LouderVol said:
meet the new boss, same as the old boss. probably not the same bodies, but they have the same mindset. and most of them were pretty heavily involved, granted its the military and you don't get a choice, with those actions. and in particular Caine's link to the CIA gives reason to question whatever he is selling.
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Wrong, Trump has changed the entire ballgame. He has defeated the republicans and he's permanently broken the democrats, they are in full fledged meltdown.
 
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utvolpj said:
I bet they've all watched the utter incompetence our govt has displayed in the past couple decades and realized they may not really have a clue what they're doing. Anyone still trusting the foreign policy coming out of DC is an idiot. Especially true when looking at the current admin of clowns
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Cannot argue with this
 
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utvolpj said:
Congrats on being part of the 30% falling for it. I hear it's an exclusive club but don't slip on the drool in the clubhouse
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You have been wrong on every single thing. If I was going trust anyone's advice you would be right behind a telescammer from Bombay telling me I have the chance help out an Indian prince.
 
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rikberry31 said:
It was a really bad day for you yesterday. Take the L and hush yourself. There is more bad news fo y'all to come.
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you mean where I had to educate you on what actually happened in WW2? Or where you twisted what I said so you could argue against some point I never actually made?

now I know what its like to play chess against a pigeon.
 
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rikberry31 said:
Wrong, Trump has changed the entire ballgame. He has defeated the republicans and he's permanently broken the democrats, they are in full fledged meltdown.
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what makes you think Trump has actually changed the ballgame?
He is the same as Bush and Obama with a war in the ME.
He is the same (worse) as all of them when it comes to spending.
DOGE was a half measure designed to fail like ACA was.
He hyper drived ICE to the point of them becoming a problem, but still has yet to even support any meaningful changes to actual immigration laws that we desperately need. ICE is pumping the water out, nothing has been done to fix the holes in our immigration laws, right now the next democrat will be able to undue all of Trump's moves.
hard to see any real positive with the tariffs. taxpayers paid for them, and now we are paying to pay them back. all that money lost, plus increased costs, offsets any gain we might have from reclaimed manufacturing.

willing to bet any "changes" we are seeing only last as long as Trump. Not really changing the game in that case.
 
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LouderVol said:
you mean where I had to educate you on what actually happened in WW2? Or where you twisted what I said you could argue against some point I never actually made?

now I know what its like to play chess against a pigeon.
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If that is how you educate youu would fit seamlessly into to the current education system. It wouldn't be very lucrative but you could take satisfaction in fact that you were warping young minds.
 
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You are so wrong about so many things it is hard to know where to start.
LouderVol said:
what makes you think Trump has actually changed the ballgame?
He is the same as Bush and Obama with a war in the ME.
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This war has no comparison with any wars that Bush or Obomber was ever involved in. It is completely different in time frame, effectiveness and results.
LouderVol said:
He hyper drived ICE to the point of them becoming a problem, but still has yet to even support any meaningful changes to actual immigration laws that we desperately need. ICE is pumping the water out, nothing has been done to fix the holes in our immigration laws,
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Uh, zero border crossing now, that's a pretty significant fix from the tidal wave that was coming over the border before.
ICE has is responsible for the removal or the self deportation of 3 mil illegals in a year.
LouderVol said:
right now the next democrat will be able to undue all of Trump's moves.
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That's why they are so dangerous.
LouderVol said:
hard to see any real positive with the tariffs. taxpayers paid for them, and now we are paying to pay them back. all that money lost, plus increased costs, offsets any gain we might have from reclaimed manufacturing.
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Revenue from tariffs rose by 300% in 2025 and are expected to increase by another 300% in 2026. That is not including the the investing in the U.S. economy.
LouderVol said:
willing to bet any "changes" we are seeing only last as long as Trump. Not really changing the game in that case.
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The world order has been changed, China and Russia have had their influence greatly reduced. The losses of the Panama, Venezuela, and Iran are big blows, particularly Iran which was the instrument that they use to create instability in the ME and threaten much of the world's energy supply without leaving their finger prints directly.
The U.S. controls all the major choke points around the globe and a significant percentage of China's energy supply.
The U.S. has decisively displayed our military capabilities and the world took notice.

It's a whole new world.
 
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MontyPython said:
😆

We still “winning”?

The sad thing is you don’t understand the difference between a tactical win and a strategic loss.
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The funny thing is this is the first war since WWII that the U.S. is winning both tactically and strategically. By every metric it has been a historic success. You have to be a complete Truth Denier or mentally ill not to recognize that fact.
The sad thing is you have to be unhappy about it and that these people are a bigger enemy to the country than any foreign adversary.
 
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rikberry31 said:
If that is how you educate youu would fit seamlessly into to the current education system. It wouldn't be very lucrative but you could take satisfaction in fact that you were warping young minds.
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shows how badly you have to pigeon hole me. I have railed against the education system multiple times. but you just default to "Person disagrees with me on one thing, so they must disagree with me about everything"
 
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rikberry31 said:
The funny thing is this is the first war since WWII that the U.S. is winning both tactically and strategically. By every metric it has been a historic success. You have to be a complete Truth Denier or mentally ill not to recognize that fact.
The sad thing is you have to be unhappy about it and that these people are a bigger enemy to the country than any foreign adversary.
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If we’re winning strategically, why are we still fighting?

Is shipping via the Strait normalized?

Minor oversight.
 
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rikberry31 said:
The funny thing is this is the first war since WWII that the U.S. is winning both tactically and strategically. By every metric it has been a historic success. You have to be a complete Truth Denier or mentally ill not to recognize that fact.
The sad thing is you have to be unhappy about it and that these people are a bigger enemy to the country than any foreign adversary.
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The Iraq war part deux was a bigger victory at this point than the current Iran war.
 
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rikberry31 said:
You are so wrong about so many things it is hard to know where to start.

This war has no comparison with any wars that Bush or Obomber was ever involved in. It is completely different in time frame, effectiveness and results.

Uh, zero border crossing now, that's a pretty significant fix from the tidal wave that was coming over the border before.
ICE has is responsible for the removal or the self deportation of 3 mil illegals in a year.

That's why they are so dangerous.

Revenue from tariffs rose by 300% in 2025 and are expected to increase by another 300% in 2026. That is not including the the investing in the U.S. economy.

The world order has been changed, China and Russia have had their influence greatly reduced. The losses of the Panama, Venezuela, and Iran are big blows, particularly Iran which was the instrument that they use to create instability in the ME and threaten much of the world's energy supply without leaving their finger prints directly.
The U.S. controls all the major choke points around the globe and a significant percentage of China's energy supply.
The U.S. has decisively displayed our military capabilities and the world took notice.

It's a whole new world.
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its hard to know where to start because it was one thing. I said we put the Mullahs in power in the 50s, instead of saying the Shah. I even admitted to being wrong, so its not likely I am burying my head and refusing to acknowledge where I was wrong, like you on Chamberlain not wanting a new war in 1941.

you realize the war is still on going right? its not over, until then its impossible to speak towards any of that. at this point in Afghanistan I am pretty sure al qaeda was pushed back to the mountains, and somewhere near Iraq there was a "Mission Accomplished" banner flying.

the border crossing fix is only temporary. Trump could support and help push thru legislation to change that flood to avoid future problems. but he isn't because he isn't actually changing the game.

you really think the tariff income in 2026 is going to be 300%, or within a reasonable percentage of that, more than 2025? before the refunds that was a tall ask, now after the tariffs I see it as pretty much a mathmatical impossibility.

Russia's influence was already gone. Trump hasn't done anything to reduce China, if anything they got more influence due to Trump's tariffs pushing nations TO china.

once again, the US doesn't not control ALL the major choke points. you couldn't even point to a single one we have noticeably increased OUR control of.
Panama is less Chinese, not more American.
Hormuz WAS open, now its closed.
seriously what choke point do we control?

dude we have been displaying our power for the better part of 3 decades. anyone who hasn't noticed it now is too stupid to appreciate it now.
 
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rikberry31 said:
You are so wrong about so many things it is hard to know where to start.

This war has no comparison with any wars that Bush or Obomber was ever involved in. It is completely different in time frame, effectiveness and results.

Uh, zero border crossing now, that's a pretty significant fix from the tidal wave that was coming over the border before.
ICE has is responsible for the removal or the self deportation of 3 mil illegals in a year.

That's why they are so dangerous.

Revenue from tariffs rose by 300% in 2025 and are expected to increase by another 300% in 2026. That is not including the the investing in the U.S. economy.

The world order has been changed, China and Russia have had their influence greatly reduced. The losses of the Panama, Venezuela, and Iran are big blows, particularly Iran which was the instrument that they use to create instability in the ME and threaten much of the world's energy supply without leaving their finger prints directly.
The U.S. controls all the major choke points around the globe and a significant percentage of China's energy supply.
The U.S. has decisively displayed our military capabilities and the world took notice.

It's a whole new world.
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What are these results? Regional economies at risk with the global economy threatened? Please list these results.
 
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Sally:

Stopping oil drilling in Iran, driven by a US-led blockade causing storage capacity to reach its limit, threatens severe, long-term damage to the nation’s aging, low-pressure oil reservoirs. Experts suggest forced, sudden shutdowns could cause water to invade, leading to an irreversible loss of capacity—possibly up to 500,000 barrels per day—requiring billions in repairs to restart production.

You gotta think this is putting tremendous pressure on Iran. They are gonna need every drop to rebuild.
 
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