Iran

[OHvol40]

There's no one single person or admin to pin "a lie" on. It was the justification for a war based on intelligence from numerous admins hard stop.

You’re trying to make a point that doesn’t matter.

 

[volfanhill]

There's no one single person or admin to pin "a lie" on. It was the justification for a war based on intelligence from numerous admins hard stop.

Gross incompetence and manipulation is why. And yes I'm well aware that this is a left think tank. They cite their sources. Damming as hell

https://www.americanprogress.org/article/neglecting-intelligence-ignoring-warnings/

 

[85SugarVol]

That wouldn’t say much for POTUS.

Were you expecting more?

 

[Smokey123]

Gross incompetence and manipulation is why. And yes I'm well aware that this is a left think tank. They cite their sources. Damming as hell

https://www.americanprogress.org/article/neglecting-intelligence-ignoring-warnings/

700 inspections were done by Hans Blix’s team prior to the 2003 invasion

 

[hog88]

So a GOP Senator whom is a former SEAL is on CNN yelling the quiet part out loud . Yes, this is absolutely about regime change. Or as he pointed out all of the reasons given are valid as is regime change they’ve been at this for about five decades and it’s a long list of grievances.

Oh… and oil

Crenshaw?

 

[RavinDave]

Seems like UAE and allies have as much of a right for it to stay open as Iran does of closing it down.

Iran is just a Strait bully

 

[zeppelin128]

And how is Reddit taking the last 48 hours?Have the servers melted?

Somehow the servers have persisted lol.

Honestly it doesn't sound all that different from here. Well at least the subreddits I lurk in.

Pretty feisty over there tonight with recent reporting on Hegseth and some military commanders going full Evangelical "this is a holy war/end times" in readiness meetings. That's all anybody is talking about at the moment. Oh and running out of interceptors.

 

[OldVol]

It's like I posted last night.
I don't know which poster said North Korea has the bomb and they haven't used it. The religious zealots of Iran would 100 percent use it on Isreal and if they get a ICBM the US and Europe.

Yeah, 2 entirely different scenarios. North Korea is driven by a single authoritarian with nothing to motivate his masses. Iran, with their Shiite brand of hardline Islam has millions of fanatics who would die for the opportunity to destroy Israel. The hope is that their are enough children and grandchildren of the Shah’s reign to foster the younger generation’s hunger for freedom like they had under the Shah. Pictures of Iran pre-revolution are amazing. They truly had a paradise with oil money flowing to the people, not to fanatical death squads.

 

[volfanhill]

It's like I posted last night.
I don't know which poster said North Korea has the bomb and they haven't used it. The religious zealots of Iran would 100 percent use it on Isreal and if they get a ICBM the US and Europe.

Disagree. They don't want to be wiped off the face of the earth. They don't believe the **** they spew. They want power and money. Not death

 

[CMcEver]

Yeah, 2 entirely different scenarios. North Korea is driven by a single authoritarian with nothing to motivate his masses. Iran, with their Shiite brand of hardline Islam has millions of fanatics who would die for the opportunity to destroy Israel. The hope is that their are enough children and grandchildren of the Shah’s reign to foster the younger generation’s hunger for freedom like they had under the Shah. Pictures of Iran pre-revolution are amazing. They truly had a paradise with oil money flowing to the people, not to fanatical death squads.

Iran is made up of like 70m Shia Muslims, and I'm not sure assassinating a religious leader during Ramadan is a great way to gain support, but I could be wrong.

 

[NashVol11]

We are a bunch of idiots led by idiots

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/trump-strikes-iran-could-cost-213222412.html

Cost of the Iran War — Live Ticker

Live running estimate of U.S. taxpayer costs for Operation Epic Fury. Updated in real time.

iran-cost-ticker.com

 

[Smokey123]

 

[n_huffhines]

@volfanhill did you come across this in your search for truth, yet?

User Clip: Netanyahu says 'no question' Saddam working on nuclear weapons | Video | C-SPAN.org User Clip: Netanyahu says 'no question' Saddam working on nuclear weapons

 

[BigOrangeMojo]

Disagree. They don't want to be wiped off the face of the earth. They don't believe the **** they spew. They want power and money. Not death

NK is safe with this admin. They have no oil...

 

[NorthDallas40]

Crenshaw?

No some other guy I’d never heard of

 

[Redleg68]

Just like Iraq's WMDs.


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Not a comparative at all. The enriched uranium does exist. Also it is horrible of you to use a picture of of a soldiers mis-fortune to try and make a parroting statement from people that have no morals. It isn't about Israel!!! Its about a group of people spreading terror around the world for the past 45 years and who murdered 200 of our Marines in their beds while they were on a peace keeping mission. Never use a picture like that again for your political gain. IT is the low of lows.

 

[sonofUT62]

Say what you will about the Bush administration. They had better liars. We’re scratching the bottom of the barrel when we send out Captain Covenant Marriage.

 

[Weezer]

NK is safe with this admin. They have no oil...

What if L'il Kim makes fun of Trump on X or some other social media?

 

[Dobbs 4 Heisman]

Perhaps you should take it up with them, since your information is incorrect

Based on what? How about you prove the answers Google's AI is stating are false rather than just declaring it. Your word isn't more reliable than Google.

 

[Dobbs 4 Heisman]

essence, the Ford serves as the centerpiece of a wider, layered defense network in the Mediterranean, rather than relying on its short-range, defensive-only weapons to stop long-range threats.

So the destroyers as part of the battle group is what is offering some protection to Israel, as well as to assets like our bases in the region, Cyprus and our assets currently based in Israel

The real answer here has little to do with the Gerald Ford itself. And the assertion that the mission is to protect Israel is somewhat dubious as well. The Mediterranean is a safer operating area, provides a different area of approach for aircraft, and offers protection to an area in the region within Iran's offensive missile range.

So its another semantics thing. The destroyers are part of the battle group. They need the carrier there to back them up so we are stationing our assets next to Israel for the express purpose of protecting Israeli lives over American lives in the Gulf.

This is treason and should get everyone in this administration locked up.

 

[Dobbs 4 Heisman]

And your argument that the US is protecting Israel to the detriment of the Gulf States by stationing the USS Ford in the Mediterranean is just flat wrong on its face.

- The USS Lincoln is in the Arabian Sea off Oman right now, with Carrier Air Wing 9 (which includes F-35C) embarked.

- There are multiple LCS and Guided Missile Destroyers in the Persian Gulf right now at Bahrain.

- There are multiple Destroyers in the Straight of Hormuz right now.

- The entire Destroyer Squadron 21 is currently in the North Arabian Sea.

The USS Gerald Ford is the newest, most expensive, and most advanced carrier. My argument was never that we left our bases in the Gulf defenseless. My argument was we prioritized protecting Israeli lives over American lives by stationing our most advanced carrier next to Israel rather than in the Gulf protecting our soldiers.

How about we give Israel those less advanced carriers and put our crown jewel carrier in the Gulf so it can protect our actual soldiers rather than the Israelis. This is about priorities. And its clear that our government is prioritizing the safety of Israel over the safety of our troops in the Gulf.

 

[BigOrangeMojo]

What if L'il Kim makes fun of Trump on X or some other social media?

Depends if the MIC needs another conflict to get more .gov $$$$$....

 

[VAVol85]

Speaking as a Virginian, Warner’s thoughts on things used to mean something. Now he is just a political hack like our other Senator, Kaine.

 

[Smokey123]

 

[Dobbs 4 Heisman]

D4H,

Can you (or your AI) provide me with a list of foreign countries that spent more on lobbying than Israel?

Then can you, (or your AI), explain to me how your "America is Israel's bitch" (paraphrased) argument makes sense?

I will hang up and listen.

Other countries can't lobby our politicians. They have to sign up as a foreign agents.

Here's what Google says: Google Search

Foreign Agents Registration Act (FARA): Enacted in 1938, this law requires individuals or firms acting as "agents" of a foreign government, political party, or other foreign entity to register with the U.S. Department of Justice (DOJ).

AIPAC is famously exempt from this requirement which is why they have free reign to lobby our politicians. Here's what Google says:

As of early 2026, the American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC) is not registered under the Foreign Agents Registration Act (FARA).

So no I can't give you a list of other countries that are lobbying our politicians because they're not allowed to while Israel is. Because like everything else the rules don't apply to Israel the way they apply to everyone else because they control our government.