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And that analogy has been addressed.The analogy was 1000 embryos vs one 5 yr old. This is meant to illustrate how much more you value an actual person than an embryo. That's it. The point of the analogy was never to prove that embryos aren't human or persons. I don't know why you're hung up on that because I never said it.
I've also said that the value of an embryo could be greater than zero and an abortion could be justified.
There could 100 inmates in one room and a 5 year old in another and I'm picking the 5 year old. That does not validate allowing the immediate death penalty whenever the "victim" arbitrarily chooses.The analogy was 1000 embryos vs one 5 yr old. This is meant to illustrate how much more you value an actual person than an embryo. That's it. The point of the analogy was never to prove that embryos aren't human or persons. I don't know why you're hung up on that because I never said it.
I've also said that the value of an embryo could be greater than zero and an abortion could be justified.
Ok, so electrons and chemicals.
That is what constitutes the laws of logic?
Immaterial doesn’t mean a “realm.”
Do you think ideas, such as love, liberty and justice are just matter in flux?
The realized value is still there.Yes, your child. Assume it's a 5 yr old you don't know. Are you going to choose the embryos? Even if you did, most wouldn't.
Don’t need to. I don’t see why we’d have any reason to prove any chemical/electrical blip as anything more significant than an elephant fart.Yes. Prove me wrong. What does "immaterial" do and why does it depend on material in order to do anything? How does it interface with material? How does immaterial create love?
it's amazing to see someone actually think the exercise helps their argument for abortionThe realized value is still there.
I’ve never seen anyone argue that an embryo in a jar is of the same value as a 5 year old. Nor have you shown how this justifies abortion.
I’d say if you were on the other side you’d dismiss this rudely.
Don’t need to. I don’t see why we’d have any reason to prove any chemical/electrical blip as anything more significant than an elephant fart.
We’re interfacing right now.
How does matter create love?
What does it weigh? What is it’s shape? Mass? Color? Smell?
The realized value is still there.
I’ve never seen anyone argue that an embryo in a jar is of the same value as a 5 year old. Nor have you shown how this justifies abortion.
I’d say if you were on the other side you’d dismiss this rudely.
Your exercise does not conclude one being a person and one not. The unpicked 75 year old is still a person, the inmates are still people.No one said it justifies abortion. Jesus Christ. How many times do I need to explain this? The only point is to show you that you hold persons in a much higher regard than non-persons. The fact that it's human life is largely irrelevant too because I'd be willing to bet most would save their own pet rather than the embryos.
So the claim that you've continually made (human life has value) is not that important by itself to whether an abortion is justified or not. I've repeatedly asked you to give us a way of quantifying the value of a human and you won't answer. You just change the subject or deflect.
What is realized value for humans and how do you calculate it?
Shake up a can of soda and it fizzes.So you dont see any reason to support a claim that you've continually made? Ok.
Via chemical reactions in the brain...?
Love, Actually: The science behind lust, attraction, and companionship - Science in the News
I guess if a slave owner would save his horse over slaves then.......No one said it justifies abortion. Jesus Christ. How many times do I need to explain this? The only point is to show you that you hold persons in a much higher regard than non-persons. The fact that it's human life is largely irrelevant too because I'd be willing to bet most would save their own pet rather than the embryos.
So the claim that you've continually made (human life has value) is not that important by itself to whether an abortion is justified or not. I've repeatedly asked you to give us a way of quantifying the value of a human and you won't answer. You just change the subject or deflect.
What is realized value for humans and how do you calculate it?
We can now also conclude the 75 year old lady is a non-person.I guess if a slave owner would save his horse over slaves then.......
I wonder how many libs would save Trump?We can now also conclude the 75 year old lady is a non-person.
A 45 year old nonbinary transgender of 1/50 native American heritage is also a non-person... uh oh...
I'd also save the 5 year old over Hillary Clinton. Guess she's a non-person now.
Only playing by the stupid exercises rules here.