2017 Starting QB: Dormady or Guarantano?

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k-town_king said:
Swain, Doug Mathews. That's two for ya. :salute:
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I remember when Doug Matthews stated on his program that Torrance Gibson wasn't a good fit at Tennessee...you hated all over him. :) You listed two radio show hosts with opinions...listed him as a special talent. Most of us agree. The "better leader" part is one of your patented add ons. And still a biiiiig stretch from "everyone". Why can't you just issue a personal opinion without trying to create some false EXPERT consensus backing you up? He's super talented and has a good chance to beat out Dormady as a starter. Just let it happen.
 
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BigOrangeTrain said:
Nobody knows. Funny how Jones is just completely overlooked. Lol.
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Thats what Ive been thinking the last couple of weeks. Its almost like Jones isnt on the roster. I know I really like the fire and competitive sprit that Jones has shown since arriving in Ktown. I cant even remember the last time we had a 3 QB race going into the spring. Its going to be very interesting and entertaining to see how this shakes out going into next spring and fall practice!
 
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Could SJ be used as a skat back, wildcat, WR (like Jennings) just to get his talent on the field?

Hmmmmmmmmm.........
 
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butchna said:
I remember when Doug Matthews stated on his program that Torrance Gibson wasn't a good fit at Tennessee...you hated all over him. :) You listed two radio show hosts with opinions...listed him as a special talent. Most of us agree. The "better leader" part is one of your patented add ons. And still a biiiiig stretch from "everyone". Why can't you just issue a personal opinion without trying to create some false EXPERT consensus backing you up? He's super talented and has a good chance to beat out Dormady as a starter. Just let it happen.
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You asked for two and I gave you two. They have both said better leader and player. I didn't add that on. Many others have posted the same things. The media consensus by a mile is JG is better and will probably start. Of course I'm not going to go find every single article or podcasts where it was said to link as proof. Anyone who actually follows the Vols has heard the same buzz. :zeitung_lesen:
 
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Did I really just read ITT someone comparing QD to Big Ben....................WTF. That's as bad as the usual suspect comparing Dobbs to Russell Wilson
 
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DERELICK_MY_VOLS said:
Dormandy reminds me of Connor Shaw. Not elite as Dobbs at running the ball but a solid scrambler...can get up field if there is a hole...but he will pick up 5-7yds where as Dobbs would turn that situation into 10+yds. Our passing game will be upgraded and WR's and TE's will be more of a factor post Dobbs era...just my 2cents.
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I have no idea who QD reminds me of.................since I have seen only limited play from him.
 
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OuterBanksVol said:
With Dobbs off to conquer space, who is our starting quarterback next year? This is perhaps more an offensive philosophical question than one of talent. If we stick with a spread offense, Guar is the natural fit as a dual threat QB who can run. Then again, if we change to a pro style offense, Dor is the natural fit as a traditional drop back passer.

Given Dor will be a Junior and has actual playing time, he seems the obvious choice. But if Dor is the QB next year, does the OC force him to run a spread offense? Unless we change coaching staffs (i.e. no DeBord and/or Butch brings in an old school OC), it would also seem unlikely that we'd change our fundamental offensive scheme... right?

So... barring something I'm missing, Guarantano is our starter next year. Which leaves Dormady disgruntled and ready to transfer. Ummmm... right?
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Keep an eye on Col Austin
 
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k-town_king said:
You asked for two and I gave you two. They have both said better leader and player. I didn't add that on. Many others have posted the same things. The media consensus by a mile is JG is better and will probably start. Of course I'm not going to go find every single article or podcasts where it was said to link as proof. Anyone who actually follows the Vols has heard the same buzz. :zeitung_lesen:
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You can't even give accurate quotes...because it's your own invention. Some guys with a platform were impressed by a practice they saw him in and you turn that into "MEDIA CONSENSUS" better "leader AND player". How would they get from PRACTICE drills? Answer? They didn't. :lol: I follow this team just as much as you do...quit pumping yourself up.
 
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BearCat204 said:
No, everyone absolutely does not say JG is a better QB and leader than QD in practice.
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OK. 95% then. Anyone acting like the reports from people covering the team haven't been saying JG is better is flat out lying. Can you or Butchna name one professional who said QD will start? I literally have not seen one.
 
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24/7vol said:
I think QD starts but if JG is the starter I won't be on here every week hating.
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I think QD may start but no complaints from me whoever is named as long as they produce.
You and I may not complain and hate but plenty will. After building up their favorite on here and he doesn't start they will wanna burn the place down. Every week it will be something.
Gonna be fun watching and reading it.
 
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k-town_king said:
OK. 95% then. Anyone acting like the reports from people covering the team haven't been saying JG is better is flat out lying. Can you or Butchna name one professional who said QD will start? I literally have not seen one.
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Because you're not looking...and if they said it you would take away their professional certification. :) Seriously no one in this conversation with you has declared Dormady the starter...could easily go the other way. We just don't hide behind some random praise for a talented redshirt and cite it as PROOF instead of registering it as an opinion. Don't know what you're afraid of with your desperation on this topic. We don't have a VETO. :w00t:

95%? OMG...dude! :stop: So anybody disagreeing with your bull is "lying"? Gotcha chachi...come back to us when you graduate clown college. :eek:k:
 
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k-town_king said:
OK. 95% then. Anyone acting like the reports from people covering the team haven't been saying JG is better is flat out lying. Can you or Butchna name one professional who said QD will start? I literally have not seen one.
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You struggle with numbers. Me not having a source that says QD will or will not start has absolutely dick to do with your over the top claim that the media is 95% saying JG will start. Just stop kid while you are behind. For the record, anyone that thinks they know who is going to start next year while we are going into bowl week the year before is just throwing **** against a board. I hope the best one starts regardless of class.
 
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OuterBanksVol said:
With Dobbs off to conquer space, who is our starting quarterback next year? This is perhaps more an offensive philosophical question than one of talent. If we stick with a spread offense, Guar is the natural fit as a dual threat QB who can run. Then again, if we change to a pro style offense, Dor is the natural fit as a traditional drop back passer.

Given Dor will be a Junior and has actual playing time, he seems the obvious choice. But if Dor is the QB next year, does the OC force him to run a spread offense? Unless we change coaching staffs (i.e. no DeBord and/or Butch brings in an old school OC), it would also seem unlikely that we'd change our fundamental offensive scheme... right?

So... barring something I'm missing, Guarantano is our starter next year. Which leaves Dormady disgruntled and ready to transfer. Ummmm... right?
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Been thinking these very same things. Seems to me like it's the essence of "do you build your system around your players' strengths or do you force your players to play your system?"

If Debord is still here, we ain't changing nothing away from the zone read and Gar is probably already way ahead of Dor, who may be already thinking about transferring.

If we bring in a new OC, though, Dormady has a chance.

I just don't see Debord or Butch changing Butch's "infallible" system of the zone-read to suit Dormady's skills, nor do I see Dormady buying into that system.
 
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