FirstAndGoal
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2019 will be rough too.
I think we are a handful in 2020 though
Ultimate negavol predicting a loss two years out.
As long as you guys brought up "two years out", what about it? Last year we argued about whether UF or UT had the younger team, both of us knowing that we could expect better things this year. How many freshman are playing for UT this year?
For UF:
Humphries played virtually entire second half against Vandy.
Bullard started against Vandy.
Purifoy has been starting and started against Vandy even though we had two experienced CBs available.
Morrison and Fowler both played a great deal. Both may be starting next year.
Andrade saw considerable action and caught a pass.
Which of us should be ready two years out?
I just don't see the fascination with Gruden. Look, I am not saying he isn't a decent coach, I just don't see him as the second coming of Neyland like many on here believe.
1) The college and the NFL are two totally different games. Remember how Mote Kiffin was going to come in and dominate? Yeah, we see how that turned out.
2) Gruden was 57-55 at TB. Barley above .500. That includes his Super Bowl year.
3) Out of his 11 NFL seasons as a head coach, he went to the playoffs five times. In those five times, he won a Super Bowl, lost in a Conference championship, lost a Division playoff game, and two wild card games.
Dooley was the recruiting coordinator/tight end coach/running back coach/special teams coach for the second coming of Bryant/Neyland at LSU. The second coming of Bryant/Neyland thought enough of him to bring him along to his Miami staff. He left to become both the head coach and AD of an abimsal program. Turned the whole program around. Took over a job at UT that nobody wanted. The job and roster was way worse than anyone ever wants to admit. Despite those difficulties, he had us virtually tied at the half (before lack of depth and talent took over the second half) with Oregon (13-13), Bama (13-10), UF (7-3), USC (10-10), and was a substitution mistake away from beating LSU in Baton Rouge.
The next season, Dooley looses his four best players; Bray, Hunter, Jackson, Lathers.
Now to this season. We have been in position to win every game. We dominated UF for three quarters. No body has done that to UF this season. We had a chance to win UGA and MSU. Players simply didn't make the plays they needed to make despite being in position. Add insult to injury, most of these blown plays were by our NFL-caliber players. There is only so much a coaching staff can do. The crazy thing about this season thus far is the fact that we are only a few plays from being undefeated.
Through all of this, the coaching staff has been able to reel in great classes considering our record and instate talent level. Furthermore, we are suppose to have another great class coming in despite our 3-3 start (according to those in the know around here).
Be patient guys; we have a good coach in front of us. Don't let your frustrations of the last decade dupe you into an irrational, emotional knee-jerk reaction.
I really like Patrick Brown, too. I think McShay's comments apply to CP more than the other 2. He is an incredible football player but a very average WR (right now, anyway); an NFL team couldn't trust him enough at this point to play him every snap.
Brown does a good job for sure just bringing the info needed. Hope he doesn't change that.
I can see your pt for sure. Not saying cp is first or second round but 3-5 money is there for him on pure playmaking ability and his physical attributes. Instinct like his is natural. What mcshay said about their overall development is correct in regard to not washing out so early because they weren't ready.
GBO!!!
RIP Big Tex!!!:cray:
i think itd be 8 and 9 depending on where Teague and Wilks fall
definites - Lathers, Bartholemew, Rivera, ZR, PWagg, Wilks, DThomas, Willie Bo
arguable - Teague, Wilks
but point remains the same - not as many as you would like
Lathers has been no show for every game outside of his 2-3 plays. His missed tackle at the end of the game last week is all effort. Now if he can'[t bring it this last year what is he going to do.
Cordarrelle Patterson 2012 Highlights (Games 1-6) - YouTube CP highlight video I found
I just don't see the fascination with Gruden. Look, I am not saying he isn't a decent coach, I just don't see him as the second coming of Neyland like many on here believe.
1) The college and the NFL are two totally different games. Remember how Mote Kiffin was going to come in and dominate? Yeah, we see how that turned out.
2) Gruden was 57-55 at TB. Barely above .500. That includes his Super Bowl year.
3) Out of his 11 NFL seasons as a head coach, he went to the playoffs five times. In those five times, he won a Super Bowl, lost in a Conference championship, lost a Division playoff game, and two wild card games.
This is my concern as well. It was my impression that he walked into a Tampa Bay situation where an incredible defense was already in place, and then picked up the offense toward a super bowl win... they went on to make very little noise subsequently.
This is my concern as well. It was my impression that he walked into a Tampa Bay situation where an incredible defense was already in place, and then picked up the offense toward a super bowl win... they went on to make very little noise subsequently.
I think CP makes equal money by the end of the 2016 season staying vs. going... and I think his 2016ish contract would be much better if he stays. Will he want to wait an extra year to be rich becomes the question.
Good pt. I guess I should have said his ability to lead from the get go and manage the game as he is coached is far better than bray. Better?:hi: