Why not Mike Leach?

#101
#101
JoAllan said:
Not sure who you are wanting, but Tennessee will have to shell out 5+ for any.....ANY new coach.

They pay over 4.1 now, and they cannot pay the new one less........over the past many years teams have paid (including Tennessee) between 20-30% more.
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i would take Patterson, Petrino or Leach and probably in that order . I think we could get Leach for less than 5. Patterson for 6+ which I realize is very unlikely and Petrino for the 5 range you mentioned . I totally disagree that we couldn't hire an up and comer coordinator for under 5, but that's a big risk when you already know that Butch is typically good for 8-9 a year with a decent bowl game
 
#102
#102
Jravol78 said:
i would take Patterson, Petrino or Leach and probably in that order . I think we could get Leach for less than 5. Patterson for 6+ which I realize is very unlikely and Petrino for the 5 range you mentioned . I totally disagree that we couldn't hire an up and comer coordinator for under 5, but that's a big risk when you already know that Butch is typically good for 8-9 a year with a decent bowl game
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Leach makes around 3 now. If his season keeps up he will get at least 20% more. Tennessee could hire Leach for around the 4 mark, but I would assume Leach would not come for less than the previous coach......but he could certainly be had for the cheap.....if that is what people wanted.

However since the numbers look, Tennessee will have to shell out over 5 for the next coach.....I do not think they will be willing to give Leach that kind of money.

But Butch went form like 265k to 1.5 mill (going from central mich to cincy), and then to around 3 mil going to Tennessee.....so anything could happen.
 
#103
#103
NO more of that read option, up tempo offense junk. Hate it.....don't want anything to do with it.
 
#104
#104
LookinUp said:
NO more of that read option, up tempo offense junk. Hate it.....don't want anything to do with it.
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7 of the current top 10 teams use some form of the spread option.

They use it because it works, you just need a better coach to make it work better.
 
#106
#106
I wanted Leach after Fulmer retired, but everybody said it would be a crazy circus. Then they hired Lane Kiffin and Yaw Yaw.
 
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#110
#110
Jxn Vol said:
Things could get interesting with the Vol Navy.
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That's what I was saying after Fulmer. I pirate coaching in Dry Bones, Texas ought to be a happy sailor on the waters of East Tennessee, such as they are. Peep come from all over the country to paddle they skulls on Melton Hill Lake.
 
#111
#111
Why do so many think that just because a coach performs "ok" at a lesser school that they will suddenly change if they come to UT?

Yes, the Tennesse brand does help recruit but Dooley was living proof that you can't mail it in.

Being the coach at an SEC school like Tennessee requires MORE of a coach than a smaller program.

Meeting with boosters, speaking engagements, weekly show, recruiting, evaluating talent, and 100 other things we probably don't even think of.

Coaches like Leach are good coaches but they are probably at a school where they fit. Expectations aren't extremely high so they look like a savior when they win 8 or 9 games. They may not want the scrutiny or expectations of a devoted and demanding fan base like Tennessee's.

I like Leach, like his style. I don't want him at Tennessee for the same reasons I don't want Mullen. I feel he wouldn't be the guy to take us back to competing for championships.
 
#113
#113
No thanks, he and this fanbase would go together about as well as water and electricity.
 
#114
#114
I would love to have him but I am afraid he is a West Coast guy. But make no mistake he is a heck of a coach.
 
#117
#117
DaUndergroundMan said:
I'd love Mike Leach. I've always wanted him to coach the vols.

Vol fans have always responded by crinkling up their little red faces, and sticking their nose in the air like an Old South debutante

"eww, Mike Leach, he likes..pirates, does he not? Mike Leach from Texas Tech? The one who locked that rich young wide receiver in the closet for being a baby? It positively traumatized that poor young gentleman, luckily he tattled to daddy and Daddy showed that Mr. Leach how we handle things in our polite and cultured southern society. Don't think he will ever be forgiven for calling us fat little girl either."

If ya'll would loosen your girdles a bit, you'd see that Mike Leach is more southern than Butch or chip kelly, has more varied experience than most any name mentioned, he studied under Norm Chow at BYU, Hal Mumme at Kentucky, and Bob Stoops at Oklahoma. Hes been involved and/or coordinated nearly every high-powered offense in football history that didnt involve steve spurrier. He was there making it happen and studying, teaching Tim Couch, Josh Heupel, Kliff Kingsburys. Hes done more than anyone out there and has more sec, and southern experience than most all the morons yall favor. He is the preeminent genius in college football. The hermit guru, who has taught and trained todays masters. His coaching tree and on field results speak volumes.

His only flaw. He's not full of sh#t like Butch. Hes a straight shooter, he relies on truth on results rather than lies and gimmicks. Hes gonna tell you like it is, and gonna lead a prolific dominant offense, thats what you get with Mike Leach.
Oh he didn't play NCAA football?

Neither did Paul Johnson, or David Cutcliffe.

Hes not Tennessee or Sec, doesnt fit the culture.

So your saying Lane Kiffin, and Butch did? What experiences did they have that led you to believe that?

He has weird press conferences!

Derek Dooley anyone?

Why on earth would yall want to hire one of Mike Leach's students but not the Master. I see his proteges names thrown around all the time. It makes no sense.

If Mike Leach has a problem hes too smart for Tennessee fans. Far too intelligent to fit in here. Burn him at the stake! He wont lie to you to make you feel better like your daddy and preacher.

Fact is, Mike Leach has been too intelligent to land that big time job. Yep, theres still discrimination in football against the intelligent. Arrogant AD's and booster in their suits deep down believe that football is a brutes game, and need a brutish dim-witted coach like Ed Orgeron, so that the lower class minorities and athletes have someone to relate to. Its complete idiocy, but thats the way things have been run.

Its time. Its time the smartest man in football gets a big time job. Its time for Tennessee to drop its silly old fashioned pretenses, and rise up shedding any vestiges of the yokel, mouth breathing trailer park hillbilly image. Its time for prolific offenses at Tennessee.

We've all waited long enough. Its time for Mike Leach to be the Head coach at The University of Tennessee.

Ill leave you all with his resume...try to find one that compares...

Kentucky
Four NCAA, 42 SEC, and 116 school records broken as Kentucky's offensive coordinator
Texas Tech
10 consecutive winning seasons
8 consecutive seasons with at least 8 wins
4 seasons with at least 9 wins
1 season with 11 wins
9 consecutive bowl appearances
5 bowl wins (most by any individual coach in the history of the program)
4 seasons completed with team ranked in the Top 25
19–11 record against in-state conference rivals Baylor, Texas, and Texas A&M
53–11 record at Jones AT&T Stadium, home of the Texas Tech Red Raider football team
2008 AP Big 12 Coach of the Year
2008 Big 12 Coach of the Year
Coached 1 Fred Biletnikoff Award (Best Wide Receiver) winner: Michael Crabtree (two-time winner)
Coached 1 Johnny Unitas Golden Arm Award (Best Senior Quarterback) winner: Graham Harrell
Coached 1 Mosi Tatupu Award (Best Kick Returner) winner: Wes Welker
Coached 3 Sammy Baugh Trophy (Outstanding Quarterback) winners: Kliff Kingsbury, B.J. Symons, and Graham Harrell
More than 150 NCAA, Big 12 and school records broken as Texas Tech's head coach
All-time winningest football coach in Texas Tech history
Coaching tree

Assistant coaches under Mike Leach who became NCAA head coaches:

Art Briles: Houston Cougars (2003–2007), Baylor Bears (2008–2016)
Jeff Choate: Montana State Bobcats (2016–present)
Sonny Dykes: Louisiana Tech Bulldogs (2010–2012), California Golden Bears (2013–2016)
Seth Littrell: North Texas Mean Green (2016–present)
Greg McMackin: Hawaii Warriors (2008–2011)
Ruffin McNeill: East Carolina Pirates (2010–2016)
Dana Holgorsen: West Virginia Mountaineers (2011–present)
Lincoln Riley: Oklahoma Sooners (2017-present)
Players under Mike Leach who became NCAA head coaches:

Kliff Kingsbury: Texas Tech Red Raiders (2013–present)
Neal Brown: Troy Trojans (2015–present)
Lincoln Riley: Oklahoma Sooners (2017-present)
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Dilly dilly we have a winner
 
#118
#118
when we ask these kinds of questions, we're forgetting the more important question - why the heck would Leach leave a great gig at Wash St. to come to the problems at TN? He whipped USC on prime time TV Friday night. He's doing well where he his. I'm happy for his success, doubt he'd bother returning a phone call from Currie.
 
#119
#119
Nasavol said:
Dilly dilly we have a winner
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