TrumpPutingate III: the beginning of the end

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volinbham said:
who knows but the CNN article contains this



It clearly wasn't used to pay Daniels since the timing is wrong.
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Here's some timing for ya! Stormy's lawyer has just revealed a russian oligarch gave mikey cohen $500K for his fixer fund. Spin that tRumplicans! :birgits_giggle:
 
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Remember what Bannon said about this investigation? It's all going to roll back to money laundering and Russian kompromat.

This weekend, the New York Times and the Washington Post published detailed investigations into the financial history Mueller is investigating. While carefully couching the findings within the bounds of the facts they were able to prove based on publicly available data, these reports made it perfectly clear that Trump’s business empire is not only dirty, but dirty in a way that leads directly into the national-security threat that produced Mueller’s investigation in the first place
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“This is all about money laundering,” Steve Bannon told Michael Wolff. “[Mueller’s] path to *****ing Trump goes right through Paul Manafort, Don Jr. and Jared Kushner … It goes through Deutsche Bank and all the Kushner sh*t.”
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"The chickens always come home to roost."

Robert Mueller Must Expose Trump’s Crooked Business Empire
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
Wow... Just freaking wow. We know why Rudy Giuliani was on Fox News last week telling the world that Trump had reimbursed Cohen for the $130K payment to Stormy Daniels now. That looked like a stupid admission at the time but they knew this was about to get out. They don't want people thinking that a Putin-linked oligarch reimbursed Cohen for the $130K because, well, that could be construed as collusion between the Trump campaign and the Russians, couldn't it? (the payment of $130K by Cohen to Daniels was 11 days before the election after all)... and of course Mueller has already interviewed this oligarch. Our boy Bob is on the ball!

...and if any of our conservatives ask, "Can you impeach him for this?" Maybe, we'll see.
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We don't know if this occurred.
 
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volinbham said:
who knows but the CNN article contains this



It clearly wasn't used to pay Daniels since the timing is wrong.
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Probably except that Trump has said that he didn't know of the payment or where it came from, Rudy says he did and reimbursed it, Conway says he didn't except he did later, and now the line seems to be back to Cohen did it, on his own, as he's going broke, without reimbursement.

So I'm going to out on a limb and say that a timing defense to the ever changing story by Trump is not very persuasive.
 
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lawgator1 said:
Probably except that Trump has said that he didn't know of the payment or where it came from, Rudy says he did and reimbursed it, Conway says he didn't except he did later, and now the line seems to be back to Cohen did it, on his own, as he's going broke, without reimbursement.

So I'm going to out on a limb and say that a timing defense to the ever changing story by Trump is not very persuasive.
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What a shock that a pathological liar and his minions can't get their stories straight.
 
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lawgator1 said:
Probably except that Trump has said that he didn't know of the payment or where it came from, Rudy says he did and reimbursed it, Conway says he didn't except he did later, and now the line seems to be back to Cohen did it, on his own, as he's going broke, without reimbursement.

So I'm going to out on a limb and say that a timing defense to the ever changing story by Trump is not very persuasive.
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There had to be a reason for Giuliani making that admission on Hannity last week. He isn't stupid. He knew it was inconsistent with what Trump had said aboard Air Force One in April. It's because they knew this story was about to break.
 
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Mick said:
Cohen got $500k from Russian Oligarch during Trump administration. Victor Vekselberg

Mueller's team questions Russian oligarch about payments to Cohen - CNNPolitics

Background Viktor Vekselberg, Russian Billionaire, Was Questioned by Mueller’s Investigators - The New York Times

the $500,000 went into the bank account for Essential Consultants, a shell company that Cohen set up before the election that was used to pay Daniels. Avenatti added that the payments occurred from January to August 2017

U.S. sanctions on Vekselberg have $1.5-$2 billion assets frozen
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This oligarch?

Emails show Clinton ties to Russian oligarch under investigation

Or this same oligarch mentioned in this article ?

Bill Clinton sought State’s permission to meet with Russian nuclear official during Obama uranium decision

https://www.google.com/amp/thehill....s-permission-to-meet-with-russian-nuclear?amp
 
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The irony is that if Trump had admitted to it last summer, the furor would have lasted a week, then been lost in the shuffle.

Instead, Trump had to lie. And lie some more. Then lie to cover up the lies. The result?

People start checking into it and into Cohen. There's a raid and who knows what's coming from that. Now we know there is a Russian payment to him of 500k. We know all of that and more is coming ......



















... all because Trump just refused to tell the truth about it when he had the chance.
 
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Grand Vol said:
He's also forgetting and missing the huge fact that Mueller sent that investigation to the local DA.

If it was related to the Russian collusion theory, he would have kept it.
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He still has the information that he can use when he is ready to bring charges. It didn't disappear because he let the state use it to get the raid warrant did it? Nope.
 
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lawgator1 said:
This might be the reason they came across stuff about Cohen and turned it over to New York.

What if this guy's money went to Trump somehow, or was Trumps way of paying Cohen??
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Wouldn’t this be right in Muellers wheelhouse and the stuff he’s looking for?
 
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lawgator1 said:
Well, according to Cohen his three clients over the last few years have been Trump, the RNC finance chair, and Hannity.

Hannity says he's not a client. Never billed. Just ocassionally chatted about real estate.

The RNC guy was a one off deal, that's it.

So ....

Who is left and for what reason send him 500k? He's not a client. The money is for something.

You got a non-laughable explanation that does not involve Trump?
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If it involved Trump and the Russians why on earth would Mueller turn it over to someone else? Isn’t this the stuff he was tasked to find?
 
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hog88 said:
Wouldn’t this be right in Muellers wheelhouse and the stuff he’s looking for?
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hog88 said:
If it involved Trump and the Russians why on earth would Mueller turn it over to someone else? Isn’t this the stuff he was tasked to find?
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Good question. I'm thinking it has to do with jurisdiction. The Feds in NY would definitely have jurisdiction over transactions there, or connected to a New York lawyer/business. Mueller I'm not so sure. That's even part of he argument in the Manafort case.

But I'm just guessing.
 
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Mick said:
Did they get paid $500k?
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They didn’t tell me...but ole Bill Clinton got $500,000 in 2010 for giving a speech in Moscow, paid for by a company with ties to Russian intelligence, but he did so while Hillary was the nation's top diplomat.

Like I said, ‘remember the names’.
 
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lawgator1 said:
Good question. I'm thinking it has to do with jurisdiction. The Feds in NY would definitely have jurisdiction over transactions there, or connected to a New York lawyer/business. Mueller I'm not so sure. That's even part of he argument in the Manafort case.

But I'm just guessing.
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Apparently Mueller was given unlimited jurisdiction, you have even argued as much.

Usually the simple answer is the correct one. And the simple answer is either Mueller looked at this and determined it didn’t lead to Trump or SDs lawyer is embellishing.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
Wow... Just freaking wow. We know why Rudy Giuliani was on Fox News last week telling the world that Trump had reimbursed Cohen for the $130K payment to Stormy Daniels now. That looked like a stupid admission at the time but they knew this was about to get out. They don't want people thinking that a Putin-linked oligarch reimbursed Cohen for the $130K because, well, that could be construed as collusion between the Trump campaign and the Russians, couldn't it? (the payment of $130K by Cohen to Daniels was 11 days before the election after all)... and of course Mueller has already interviewed this oligarch. Our boy Bob is on the ball!

...and if any of our conservatives ask, "Can you impeach him for this?" Maybe, we'll see.
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Speaking of collusion, here’s that oligarch mentioned again. This is odd...Humm.

Democrats' Real, Pervasive Collusion With Russia Somehow Lost In Media's Hysterical Anti-Trump Campaign | Investor's Business Daily
 
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