To Protect and to Serve II

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#11,802
Rickyvol77 said:
This narrator is wrong on the stuff he says nearly every video. And seems to have a deep hatred for women as he does police
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There’s no defense for the police here. It’s outrageous plain and simple. The police should be held to the same standard as any other citizen.
 
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#11,803
Orangeslice13 said:
There’s no defense for the police here. It’s outrageous plain and simple. The police should be held to the same standard as any other citizen.
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Are you kidding right now? The guy says he has a gun and will shoot them and acts like he does. That moron narrator said you have to wait to be shot at before shooting. That tells me he doesn’t understand the law (among other things he said that were completely wrong)
 
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#11,804
Rickyvol77 said:
Are you kidding right now? The guy says he has a gun and will shoot them and acts like he does. That moron narrator said you have to wait to be shot at before shooting. That tells me he doesn’t understand the law (among other things he said that were completely wrong)
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I don’t need his opinion to judge for myself what happened. That’s a murder
 
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#11,806
Rickyvol77 said:
And you would be wrong. What would you do if a crazy violent person told you he had a gun and was going to shoot you and motioned like he had one?
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Violence?
Where did you see violence.
The only violence was from the police who murdered a guy who obviously did not have a gun.
 
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#11,807
Orangeslice13 said:
Violence?
Where did you see violence.
The only violence was from the police who murdered a guy who obviously did not have a gun.
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He was stalking his ex girlfriend and has a long history of violence. And threatening to shoot someone with an alleged gun you have behind your back while resisting arrest is violence
 
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Rickyvol77 said:
He was stalking his ex girlfriend and has a long history of violence. And threatening to shoot someone with an alleged gun you have behind your back while resisting arrest is violence
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There’s no evidence of stalking at the time of the incident. There’s no evidence of a history of violence at the time of the incident. So what we have is poorly trained officers making bad assumption which resulted in loss of life.

You get the last word but I’m not going to read it.
 
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#11,809
Orangeslice13 said:
There’s no evidence of stalking at the time of the incident. There’s no evidence of a history of violence at the time of the incident. So what we have is poorly trained officers making bad assumption which resulted in loss of life.

You get the last word but I’m not going to read it.
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And you will be wrong on this because it’s not murder. Not legally, morally or in the civil sense
 
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#11,810
Rickyvol77 said:
Are you kidding right now? The guy says he has a gun and will shoot them and acts like he does. That moron narrator said you have to wait to be shot at before shooting. That tells me he doesn’t understand the law (among other things he said that were completely wrong)
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You get on that narrator a lot, yet he is a former cop in California and Texas.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
You get on that narrator a lot, yet he is a former cop in California and Texas.
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Who apparently hates police because he got fired at an agency and no one else would hire him. I get on him because he claims to be some expert, yet routinely makes claims that are 100% wrong. He doesn’t even understand simple state law and makes buses generalizations (women lie and never get charged with violating an order of protection; this guy showed no violence; he wasn’t trespassing if he had a shirt there, etc) that any real officer would know is 100% BS
 
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Rickyvol77 said:
This narrator is wrong on the stuff he says nearly every video. And seems to have a deep hatred for women as he does police
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Hatred of women? LOL, what? Because he criticized the woman for letting an "alleged" abusive boyfriend back in her home after she asked for a restraining order? Did you even hear the 911 call? She was being very deceptive on the call. At first it was "somebody" trying to enter her home, then she admitted it was her ex-boyfriend.

Do cops do any kind of low level thinking when it comes to domestic issues like this? Or are the cops more like you and just assume that the guy is in the wrong and Pearl Pureheart is just as innocent as the Virgin Mary?
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
Hatred of women? LOL, what? Because he criticized the woman for letting an "alleged" abusive boyfriend back in her home after she asked for a restraining order? Did you even hear the 911 call? She was being very deceptive on the call. At first it was "somebody" trying to enter her home, then she admitted it was her ex-boyfriend.

Do cops do any kind of low level thinking when it comes to domestic issues like this? Or are the cops more like you and just assume that the guy is in the wrong and Pearl Pureheart is just as innocent as the Virgin Mary?
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He dismisses women generally which I believe is due to his own past experiences which led to his current job status.
She wasn’t being deceptive, lots of people begin 911 calls with general info then provide more as the call goes on.
He still had no right to be there harassing her, regardless of her bad decision making a few days prior. he also clearly was having psych issues as well.
he clearly broke at least 2-3 laws on the video and his behaviors made him the “bad guy” not just what she said
 
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Rickyvol77 said:
He dismisses women generally which I believe is due to his own past experiences which led to his current job status.
She wasn’t being deceptive, lots of people begin 911 calls with general info then provide more as the call goes on.
He still had no right to be there harassing her, regardless of her bad decision making a few days prior. he also clearly was having psych issues as well.
he clearly broke at least 2-3 laws on the video and his behaviors made him the “bad guy” not just what she said
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I get your point, but one thing he said makes a ton of sense. I have a good friend who’s ex was having an affair.... she got caught.... got a restraining order.... and this guy is not a violent person at all.... several weeks go by.... she asks him to come back home.... he does for a couple of months..... well... she was still seeing the other guy and my friend.... in front of some other people grabbed her phone away from her.... she calls the cops... he gets arrested and prosecuted. She broke the terms of the restraining order just as much as he did, but came out of it unscathed. My friend went through hell
 
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Carl Pickens said:
I get your point, but one thing he said makes a ton of sense. I have a good friend who’s ex was having an affair.... she got caught.... got a restraining order.... and this guy is not a violent person at all.... several weeks go by.... she asks him to come back home.... he does for a couple of months..... well... she was still seeing the other guy and my friend.... in front of some other people grabbed her phone away from her.... she calls the cops... he gets arrested and prosecuted. She broke the terms of the restraining order just as much as he did, but came out of it unscathed. My friend went through hell
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Since he didnt get her to take the steps of rescinding the order, he is an idiot for moving back there., and then physically grabbed her phone during a domestic argument? Sounds like he deserved what he got.

But there are several instances of women breaking their own restraining order and getting arrested for it, i've done it at least a dozen times myself in my former life.
 
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Rickyvol77 said:
Since he didnt get her to take the steps of rescinding the order, he is an idiot for moving back there., and then physically grabbed her phone during a domestic argument? Sounds like he deserved what he got.

But there are several instances of women breaking their own restraining order and getting arrested for it, i've done it at least a dozen times myself in my former life.
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:clutches pearls:
 
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Rickyvol77 said:
The fact you think that physically grabbing someone else's property out of their hand during an argument, let alone during a DOMESTIC situation where you already have an order of protection for similar abusive behavior, says a lot.
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Not saying it is right, but it is a rather mild. They were having an argument. That is pretty tame, certainly not worthy of getting shot by the cops.
 
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#11,820
Rickyvol77 said:
The fact you think that physically grabbing someone else's property out of their hand during an argument, let alone during a DOMESTIC situation where you already have an order of protection for similar abusive behavior, says a lot.
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You gave this comment a "like" when the cop punched another guy and I said no charges. But let a guy snatch a phone out of someone's hands and now all hell breaks loose.

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Rickyvol77 said:
I liked that YOU said it was a fair response. Bar fights with mutual combatants are different than domestic violence
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You seem like a mostly level headed person, but you way too often side with the police when someone gets blown away by them because they moved their arm too quickly with nothing in it.
 
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VolStrom said:
You seem like a mostly level headed person, but you way too often side with the police when someone gets blown away by them because they moved their arm too quickly with nothing in it.
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It's not "siding with the police", as i would be the first to call out truly illegal police behavior (like Walter Scott for example) .
Mainly because i understand police training, the law, and that the actions of the criminal dictated what happened....totality of circumstances.

Graham vs Connor, Tennessee vs. Garner, etc. These rulings are pretty self-evident and easy to follow
 
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Rickyvol77 said:
It's not "siding with the police", as i would be the first to call out truly illegal police behavior (like Walter Scott for example) .
Mainly because i understand police training, the law, and that the actions of the criminal dictated what happened....totality of circumstances.

Graham vs Connor, Tennessee vs. Garner, etc. These rulings are pretty self-evident and easy to follow
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Sounds like either the law or police training needs to be changed then. When someone moves and a cop(s) unload their weapons into a person without a weapon, something is wrong in the training. It would be one thing if cops were being killed in standoffs, but it's the citizens on the other side of the guns that seem to die most of the time.
 
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