To Protect and to Serve II

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Orange_Crush said:
That story reminds me of this one:

The Marine and Police Report
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Justice served instantly. Wow. Situational awareness is important. If he were aware of the marines at the door, he could have chosen differently. I talk to my son about this from time to time...dont sit with your back to the door in any public place, or even a private home that's unfamiliar...take inventory of your surroundings when you enter a new place. Make eye contact with those in your immediate area if possible, etc. He is still an oblivious teenager, but hopefully he will wise up a bit .
 
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Grand Vol said:
There needs to be some digging there.
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I didn't say it shouldn't be an investigation. But on the surface, I can see that situation being a bit difficult for most to maneuver in.

Far cry from a guy in the middle of a hotel hallway getting shot because he couldn't play Simon Says or the Hokey Pokey.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
I didn't say it shouldn't be an investigation. But on the surface, I can see that situation being a bit difficult for mist to maneuver in.

Far cry from a guy in the middle of a hotel hallway getting shot because he couldn't play Simon Says or the Hokey Pokey.
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I saw a report the wife had stepped out and informed the police he (the husband) was in the house.

For one to normally blast cops for itchy trigger fingers, you're unusually...calm.
 
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Grand Vol said:
I saw a report the wife had stepped out and informed the police he (the husband) was in the house.

For one to normally blast cops for itchy trigger fingers, you're unusually...calm.
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Yeah, I read that... in fact I read the article one more time to see if anything else jumped out at me. I think I'm going to stick with my original assumption (for now) that this was just an unfortunate error.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
Yeah, I read that... in fact I read the article one more time to see if anything else jumped out at me. I think I'm going to stick with my original assumption (for now) that this was just an unfortunate error.
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WTF kind of drugs do they have you on?

You're liking my posts, you're taking the cops' side...

Is the Rapture upon us or something?
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
I've liked several of your posts... you just know it with the new set up now.

I haven't changed... don't worry. I'm sure we'll bump heads soon enough.
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I do think there's more to it than that.

Did the guy flag the cops on the outside? That's the main question that needs to be asked. Did they announce their presence? So on and so forth. Yeah, he likely shouldn't have gone out armed, but I'm wondering what kind of time transpired between the exit and the shooting.
 
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Carl Pickens said:
The cops were in a lose lose situation. If they shoot too soon they're labeled murderers, executioners, etc.... wait like they did and an innocent bystander is killed....

Did the guy actually slice her throat?
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Yeah, he did. Horrible situation all around. I would’ve liked to have seen the cop in front of the guy take the shot. Sad...
 
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I would like to see the bodycam, from outside the residence...if she CLEARLY told cops that the assailant was NAKED and her husband wasnt, but was in the house...like I understand it...I do believe the cops are at fault. It's easy to see the difference between a naked man and a clothed man..especially when you are trained to notice these things, and assess any situation mentally before using deadly force...American Hero was killed in his own home for protecting his family, I know it wasnt malicious, but that doesn't mean it isn't grossly negligent...it will cost taxpayers millions, just like the 49 year old lady if she has any family...

Rasputin_Vol said:
An unfortunate set of circumstances. Not sure how much you can blame cops for that.
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marcusluvsvols said:
I would like to see the bodycam, from outside the residence...if she CLEARLY told cops that the assailant was NAKED and her husband wasnt, but was in the house...like I understand it...I do believe the cops are at fault. It's easy to see the difference between a naked man and a clothed man..especially when you are trained to notice these things, and assess any situation mentally before using deadly force...American Hero was killed in his own home for protecting his family, I know it wasnt malicious, but that doesn't mean it isn't grossly negligent...it will cost taxpayers millions, just like the 49 year old lady if she has any family...
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I guess I keep going back to this and trying to understand what is going on:

"Mr. Black goes and gets his sidearm and shoots the intruder and saves his grandson," Rathod said. "Mr. Black walks out of the bathroom to see other individuals who had also come in the home. Black's wife had called the police and ran outside. She specifically told the police what her husband was wearing and there was a naked man attacking her grandson. Mr. Black walks out and is shot by police."
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It reads here that the naked man and others had come into the home. I'm assuming it means other intruders and not the cops. Also, you have the wife leaving the home.

Just seems like you have a lot of traffic and people running in all directions with gunfire mixed in.
 
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