To Protect and to Serve II

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Grand Vol said:
There needs to be some digging there.
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I didn't say it shouldn't be an investigation. But on the surface, I can see that situation being a bit difficult for most to maneuver in.

Far cry from a guy in the middle of a hotel hallway getting shot because he couldn't play Simon Says or the Hokey Pokey.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
I didn't say it shouldn't be an investigation. But on the surface, I can see that situation being a bit difficult for mist to maneuver in.

Far cry from a guy in the middle of a hotel hallway getting shot because he couldn't play Simon Says or the Hokey Pokey.
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I saw a report the wife had stepped out and informed the police he (the husband) was in the house.

For one to normally blast cops for itchy trigger fingers, you're unusually...calm.
 
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Grand Vol said:
I saw a report the wife had stepped out and informed the police he (the husband) was in the house.

For one to normally blast cops for itchy trigger fingers, you're unusually...calm.
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Yeah, I read that... in fact I read the article one more time to see if anything else jumped out at me. I think I'm going to stick with my original assumption (for now) that this was just an unfortunate error.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
Yeah, I read that... in fact I read the article one more time to see if anything else jumped out at me. I think I'm going to stick with my original assumption (for now) that this was just an unfortunate error.
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WTF kind of drugs do they have you on?

You're liking my posts, you're taking the cops' side...

Is the Rapture upon us or something?
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
I've liked several of your posts... you just know it with the new set up now.

I haven't changed... don't worry. I'm sure we'll bump heads soon enough.
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I do think there's more to it than that.

Did the guy flag the cops on the outside? That's the main question that needs to be asked. Did they announce their presence? So on and so forth. Yeah, he likely shouldn't have gone out armed, but I'm wondering what kind of time transpired between the exit and the shooting.
 
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Carl Pickens said:
The cops were in a lose lose situation. If they shoot too soon they're labeled murderers, executioners, etc.... wait like they did and an innocent bystander is killed....

Did the guy actually slice her throat?
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Yeah, he did. Horrible situation all around. I would’ve liked to have seen the cop in front of the guy take the shot. Sad...
 
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I would like to see the bodycam, from outside the residence...if she CLEARLY told cops that the assailant was NAKED and her husband wasnt, but was in the house...like I understand it...I do believe the cops are at fault. It's easy to see the difference between a naked man and a clothed man..especially when you are trained to notice these things, and assess any situation mentally before using deadly force...American Hero was killed in his own home for protecting his family, I know it wasnt malicious, but that doesn't mean it isn't grossly negligent...it will cost taxpayers millions, just like the 49 year old lady if she has any family...

Rasputin_Vol said:
An unfortunate set of circumstances. Not sure how much you can blame cops for that.
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marcusluvsvols said:
I would like to see the bodycam, from outside the residence...if she CLEARLY told cops that the assailant was NAKED and her husband wasnt, but was in the house...like I understand it...I do believe the cops are at fault. It's easy to see the difference between a naked man and a clothed man..especially when you are trained to notice these things, and assess any situation mentally before using deadly force...American Hero was killed in his own home for protecting his family, I know it wasnt malicious, but that doesn't mean it isn't grossly negligent...it will cost taxpayers millions, just like the 49 year old lady if she has any family...
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I guess I keep going back to this and trying to understand what is going on:

"Mr. Black goes and gets his sidearm and shoots the intruder and saves his grandson," Rathod said. "Mr. Black walks out of the bathroom to see other individuals who had also come in the home. Black's wife had called the police and ran outside. She specifically told the police what her husband was wearing and there was a naked man attacking her grandson. Mr. Black walks out and is shot by police."
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It reads here that the naked man and others had come into the home. I'm assuming it means other intruders and not the cops. Also, you have the wife leaving the home.

Just seems like you have a lot of traffic and people running in all directions with gunfire mixed in.
 
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Carl Pickens said:
I was thinking he was going to try for the head shot, but the two cops freaked out
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Honestly the cops were screwed any way they went. They started with less lethal, the guy used a chair to block the bean bags. Before they could close to taser he took a hostage. If they had shot him from the jump they would be racist executioners. They didn’t and things got worse. If they let him kill that woman they’d be heartless. If they shot the guy and hit the woman by mistake they’re back to being racist executioners. I know the family is sad but I don’t know what they wanted the cops to do. They went by the BLM playbook and it got an innocent killed.
 
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Could we be witnessing the beginning of a bursting police bubble?

Entire Police Force Quits In This Massachusetts Town

“Around the country, towns with shrinking tax bases and rising costs have been forced to make hard choices. In some cases, that has meant merging local police departments or cutting them altogether. Earlier this year, Brooksville, Fla., shuttered its 30-person police department and handed law enforcement duties over to the local sheriff. Other departments have disbanded after problems; Galesburg, Mich., for instance, closed its police department in January after firing the chief,” said the NYT.

“Small towns are having this discussion around maintaining the most basic functions of local government, police services being one of them,” said Josh Garcia, the acting town administrator for Blandford.

It seems as the NYT has discovered the next emerging trend: The Collapse of police departments in rural America.
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Rasputin_Vol said:
I didn't say it shouldn't be an investigation. But on the surface, I can see that situation being a bit difficult for mist to maneuver in.

Far cry from a guy in the middle of a hotel hallway getting shot because he couldn't play Simon Says or the Hokey Pokey.
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It's a tough call on the worst police shooting I've seen.... the hallway shooting may very well be it.
 
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