I said wings and perimeter players were smaller in the 90's, which is absolutely, 100% true. I actually did prove that league average weight is heavier and the height is the same (1" less as of last year) and our rosters have fewer big centers and PF's skewing the numbers like they did in the 90's. You're trying to say MJ is stronger than Harden...Harden has him by 25 lbs and he's an inch shorter. Go through the all-star perimeter players in the 90's...I only found one that outweighed Harden (Grant Hill, who has him by 3"). Harden is a combo guard and he's fkn heavier than Nique, Pippen, G Rice, etc. It doesn't matter what the reality is, you will say whatever is convenient to your argument.
The athleticism can't be proved one way or another, but your points in that regard have been absurd. The fact that you won't let go of this Majerle thing is crazy. We don't need to go any further.
Dude stop making stuff up. Harden is an inch and maybe two shorter. He is listed at 6'5 and most say he is 6'4. Jordan was a legit 6'6. He also played around 225 during his last three championship years.
His listed weight is 216. He considered his optimal weight at 218. He was in better shape and stronger than Harden with 2 more lbs on him and a much higher body fat percentage. A chubby guy who is two or three pounds heavier is usually much weaker than the guy who weighs less with actual muscles.
Michael Jordan is trying to get back to his playing weight
"Jordan talked about his playing weight in an
excellent profile by ESPN's Wright Thompson . . .
Nine days later, sitting in his office and surrounded by basketball, he's down to 248. He'll claim it's about health, or looking good for his 50th birthday party. But in his mind, there's a target: 218, a familiar and dangerous number in Jordan's world.
That's his playing weight."
I don't know what weight you are using. It must be drafted weight. Then he put on 25 pounds of muscle to beat the Pistons physical d. It is well documented. I really see you don't know any basketball history.
Google Wilkins weight 229. 224 on his wiki. Wrong again
Google Pippen. 225 wrong again
Google grant Hill. 225
Every one you named was heavier and in much better shape. All were stronger, faster, and had more hops.
Wrong just like your whole argument. I already linked the numbers showing that pg and sg height peaked in the 80s and 90s. They weigh a little more than the 90s but not much. They are not more athletic or longer now which is what the argument was.
The All NBA players aren't bigger. Maybe Miami PED Lebron over small forwards from the 80s and 90s weight wise. Not bigger at any other All NBA position.
There have been a lot of undersized All NBA players during the LeBron era. Wade is shorter than MJ just like Harden. CP3 , Isiah Thomas, and Tony Parker are smaller than the All NBA pgs during MJs prime. Malone was a beast. At center too many greats to name.
Size and athleticism has not changed since the 80s. Some player take advantage of today's great training. There were also guys then ahead of the curb that trained hard. They would still dominate today.
There was no era advantage. MJ was just a force of nature.
