Shooting in El Paso

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ClearwaterVol said:
Why doesn't Canada have this problem with mass shootings?
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I think a better question is why doesn't Switzerland have them. Really high gun ownership rate (not relative to the US, but much much higher than their European neighbors), a right to own firearms in their federal law. Yet no mass shootings and basically no gun crime.
 
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SpaceCoastVol said:
Stop digging
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For you I will do the digging
A hate group is a social group that advocates and practices hatred, hostility, or violence towards members of a race, ethnicity, nation, religion, gender, gender identity, sexual orientation or any other designated sector of society. According to the United States Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI), a hate group's "primary purpose is to promote animosity, hostility, and malice against persons belonging to a race, religion, disability, sexual orientation, or ethnicity/national origin which differs from that of the members of the organization.
Hate speech is a statement intended to demean and brutalize another, or the use of cruel and derogatory language on the basis of real or alleged membership in a social group.[1] Hate speech is speech that attacks a person or a group on the basis of protected attributes such as race, religion, ethnic origin, national origin, sex, disability, sexual orientation, or gender identity.[2][3]
 
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hog88 said:
If you are advocating any additional control legislation we are on opposite sides.

I'm sure you do, all of mine were lost in the flood.
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A. Buy flood insurance.

B. I'm advocating that common sense be used to address a serious problem, all sides will need to give. Frankly, I'd consider taxing rifled ammunition to the point of absurdity and regulate the sale of powder for the home reloaders.
 
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Septic said:
A. Buy flood insurance.

B. I'm advocating that common sense be used to address a serious problem, all sides will need to give. Frankly, I'd consider taxing rifled ammunition to the point of absurdity and regulate the sale of powder for the home cookers.
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Total Fudd.
 
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Mick said:
If the Government went after the hate groups and hate speech the online extremist would scatter like cockroaches.
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Who gets to determine who are hate groups and what is hate speech? Try doing this and our country would be done
 
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05_never_again said:
I think a better question is why doesn't Switzerland have them. Really high gun ownership rate (not relative to the US, but much much higher than their European neighbors), a right to own firearms in their federal law. Yet no mass shootings and basically no gun crime.
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Mandatory military service and strict rules on who can own weapons. Swiss authorities decide on a local level whether to give people gun permits. They also keep a log of everyone who owns a gun in their region, known as a canton, though hunting rifles and some semiautomatic long arms are exempt from the permit requirement. But cantonal police don't take their duty dolling out gun licenses lightly. They might consult a shrink or talk with authorities in other cantons where a prospective gun buyer has lived before to That is all vet the person. You know stuff the right doesn't want.

Back to Canada...
 
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Septic said:
A. Buy flood insurance.

B. I'm advocating that common sense be used to address a serious problem, all sides will need to give. Frankly, I'd consider taxing rifled ammunition to the point of absurdity and regulate the sale of powder for the home cookers.
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So what is the gun control side gonna give to the gun owners in this scenario?

Also, just love the end-around the Constitution by taxing the hell out of ammunition.
 
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Mick said:
Spit it out, what do you have?
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I have said many times that the root causes, the actual reason(s) these people decide to commit these acts needs to be studied to include what if any medications they are or have been taking. What if any similarities in backgrounds did the shooters have. We start there and work to find a solution to stop the why because as long as there are people who want to commit mass murder they will find an instrument to do so. Restricting types of guns solves nothing.
 
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Mick said:
For you I will do the digging
A hate group is a social group that advocates and practices hatred, hostility, or violence towards members of a race, ethnicity, nation, religion, gender, gender identity, sexual orientation or any other designated sector of society. According to the United States Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI), a hate group's "primary purpose is to promote animosity, hostility, and malice against persons belonging to a race, religion, disability, sexual orientation, or ethnicity/national origin which differs from that of the members of the organization.
Hate speech is a statement intended to demean and brutalize another, or the use of cruel and derogatory language on the basis of real or alleged membership in a social group.[1] Hate speech is speech that attacks a person or a group on the basis of protected attributes such as race, religion, ethnic origin, national origin, sex, disability, sexual orientation, or gender identity.[2][3]
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Ok, so what do you suggest be done. nothing in your post above is currently illegal so what do you suggest law enforcement do?
 
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Septic said:
A. Buy flood insurance.

B. I'm advocating that common sense be used to address a serious problem, all sides will need to give. Frankly, I'd consider taxing rifled ammunition to the point of absurdity and regulate the sale of powder for the home reloaders.
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Additional control legislation is not common sense.
 
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hog88 said:
I have said many times that the root causes, the actual reason(s) these people decide to commit these acts needs to be studied to include what if any medications they are or have been taking. What if any similarities in backgrounds did the shooters have. We start there and work to find a solution to stop the why because as long as there are people who want to commit mass murder they will find an instrument to do so. Restricting types of guns solves nothing.
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And if you have been reading my posts, you would know HIPAA is the roadblock there. Are you advocating doing away with that privacy?
 
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ClearwaterVol said:
Mandatory military service and strict rules on who can own weapons. Swiss authorities decide on a local level whether to give people gun permits. They also keep a log of everyone who owns a gun in their region, known as a canton, though hunting rifles and some semiautomatic long arms are exempt from the permit requirement. But cantonal police don't take their duty dolling out gun licenses lightly. They might consult a shrink or talk with authorities in other cantons where a prospective gun buyer has lived before to That is all vet the person. You know stuff the right doesn't want.

Back to Canada...
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There are still a lot of unregistered guns in Switzerland. The background check you must go through sounds not at all unlike a background check in the United States. You identify yourself and show you don't have a criminal record, and you can buy a gun.
 
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Septic said:
A. Buy flood insurance.

B. I'm advocating that common sense be used to address a serious problem, all sides will need to give. Frankly, I'd consider taxing rifled ammunition to the point of absurdity and regulate the sale of powder for the home reloaders.
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with your last sentence I'm not sure how you led off with "common sense"
 
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Mick said:
No, we just wouldn't see you post anymore.
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I love “ Liberals “ that want to decide what speech is free and what’s not based on the person or group it comes from . You guys sure are progressing .
 
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