Shooting in El Paso

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InVOLuntary said:
t's not a strawman because you chose to pick and chose what you determine is dangerous. It's completely relavent. There are things all around you that have the potential to kill you. I could have posted a picture of a bar with parking lot full of cars and the same would apply. How do we know one of those patrons isn't going to rive home drunk and kill a min
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So your argument is that we should ignore the mass shooting issue?
 
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BigOrangeD said:
I'm glad you don't. Now start condemning them as much as you do Trump and I'll believe it.
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I don't pay attention to anything they do. They are irrelevant. Why would I spend time condemning something with zero connection to my beliefs. You support Trump. He has used the most divisive political tactics this country has ever seen. He lies on a scale once thought impossible even by political standards and you still support him. Denounce that.
 
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ClearwaterVol said:
A trump supporter even mentioning lies is hilarious. I don't support Antifa in anyway whatsoever.
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In their world, people who don't support trump are ALL race baiting antifa anarchists. The average trumper isn't capable of seeing the world as shades of grey. With us or against us.
 
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hog88 said:
Acting as if more gun control legislation would help the issue is ignoring it.
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Go after the hate groups then.

the Department of Homeland Security, which is charged with identifying threats and preventing domestic terrorism, has sought to redirect resources away from countering anti-government, far-right and white supremacist groups.

The shift has come despite evidence of a growing danger. Last year, every extremist killing in the United States involved a follower of far-right hate groups or ideology, according to the Anti-Defamation League’s Center on Extremism. The FBI has noted a sharp increase in domestic terrorism cases involving white supremacists.
 
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ClearwaterVol said:
I don't pay attention to anything they do. They are irrelevant. Why would I spend time condemning something with zero connection to my beliefs. You support Trump. He has used the most divisive political tactics this country has ever seen. He lies on a scale once thought impossible even by political standards and you still support him. Denounce that.
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That's Obama actually.
 
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hog88 said:
Acting as if more gun control legislation would help the issue is ignoring it.
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bullsht, any meaningful solution to stop the mass SHOOTINGS is going to have to address that the bullets aren't being thrown. Both sides are going to have to give, otherwise nothing changes.
 
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Septic said:
It is a strawman, no one is arguing that a pencil couldn't kill you. The current debate is about firearms, not hamilton beach instapots. One is designed and sold to send lead down range at high velocity, one is designed to cook delicious marinated chicken. You're attacking a strawman.
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Please define "high velocity" in the manner in which you've used it?
 
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hog88 said:
What is a "large gun"?
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One that won’t fit in the glovebox of an automobile.

CPD likes to charge theft on all the stolen guns they find. It rarely holds up, but you get the report of the theft in discovery. Most of them are “I came out to go to work and my car had been burglarized and my gun was in the glove box and now it’s gone.”
 
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Mick said:
Go after the hate groups then.

the Department of Homeland Security, which is charged with identifying threats and preventing domestic terrorism, has sought to redirect resources away from countering anti-government, far-right and white supremacist groups.

The shift has come despite evidence of a growing danger. Last year, every extremist killing in the United States involved a follower of far-right hate groups or ideology, according to the Anti-Defamation League’s Center on Extremism. The FBI has noted asharp increase in domestic terrorism cases involving white supremacists.
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Ok, go after them like they did the mafia. If they are involved in criminal activity nail them. But ya can't imprison them for simple hate speech.
 
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Mick said:
Go after the hate groups then.

the Department of Homeland Security, which is charged with identifying threats and preventing domestic terrorism, has sought to redirect resources away from countering anti-government, far-right and white supremacist groups.

The shift has come despite evidence of a growing danger. Last year, every extremist killing in the United States involved a follower of far-right hate groups or ideology, according to the Anti-Defamation League’s Center on Extremism. The FBI has noted asharp increase in domestic terrorism cases involving white supremacists.
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That would eliminate the Democratic Party.
 
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Septic said:
bullsht, any meaningful solution to stop the mass SHOOTINGS is going to have to address that the bullets aren't being thrown. Both sides are going to have to give, otherwise nothing changes.
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This side isn't giving one damn inch because your side has proven time and time again that you ask for an inch and try and take a mile.

You want to limit firearms, amend the constitution.
 
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If the Government went after the hate groups and hate speech the online extremist would scatter like cockroaches.
 
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Septic said:
bullsht, any meaningful solution to stop the mass SHOOTINGS is going to have to address that the bullets aren't being thrown. Both sides are going to have to give, otherwise nothing changes.
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What proposal do you advocate that would, "stop the mass shootings"?
-Curious in Tennessee
 
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hog88 said:
My problem with the anti-gun crowd is they want to circumvent the constitution in order to achieve their goal. If you think certain guns should be outlawed, restricted or whatever do it right. Go to your favorite congressman/senator and start a movement to amend the constitution. I could respect that, disagree with it but respect it.
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I don't think an amendment is required. They will attempt to pass laws and see if it can survive the courts.
 
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Septic said:
It is a strawman, no one is arguing that a pencil couldn't kill you. The current debate is about firearms, not hamilton beach instapots. One is designed and sold to send lead down range at high velocity, one is designed to cook delicious marinated chicken. You're attacking a strawman.
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Lol. It's not. The debate is trying to legislate evil people out of existence and you can't. She posted a photo of someone carrying an AK wondering if they might all of a sudden start shooting people. It's about being fearful of another's behavior. Same as being fearful of a bar patron driving drunk. A pressure cooker has been used to kill people so should we be fearful of all pressure cookers? An AK has been used to kill people so we should fear anyone that owns one? It's 100% relevant.
 
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