Recruiting Football Talk VIII

[butchna]

Choices for QB1 position

A. Get a guy out of Portal ( then watch everyone complain about the guy)

Or


B. Give the keys to the car to Merk or GM ( then watch individuals complain about not getting a QB from the Portal)

Or


C. Both or nothing works, fahr errybody!

fyp

 

[DD4ME]

What is our philosophy now? The book is out on the Heupel scheme. Are we moving to the pistol as rumored? Given our situation on the OL and with the WRs, I'd have to think we'd need a guy who has some serious running ability. Kinda want the Becht kid to be honest.

 

[Jimmy Football]

Which should tell you how bad the situation with Nico really was for him to cut him lose.

*luce

 

[Leeleesteeth]

I could see this happening.

Some of that already happening. Some Olympic level handwringing going on. The Ignore List Portal is Officially open.

 

[Jackcrevol]

If so, I think it's ridiculous and short sighted given the Nico situation. So a potential "leader" on defense who wants to be a two way player and the primary return man on special teams is angling for.yet another raise after presumably getting a bump recently along with Matthews? Yeah, that's a real team leader. I'd certainly feel great about depending on a guy like that.

How many players on the 98 team, the 2001 team wouldve angled for a pay raise back then? How many did and we just never heard about it? Not saying its moral or ethical, but its the way its set up.

Boo can help us, or hurt us. Just that simple.

Because our recruiting is average. We have no choice.

 

[Vols2DaWall]

He needs to drastically upgrade his staff. I think his loyalty to guys in his sphere is admirable, but when they simply can't do the job at a level this league demands, it's the wrong move. We have some coaches on this staff who were bad hires/promotions.

We've got players who are bad evals. Keep going back to the UCF fans on their board who voiced similar complaints. Initially, I considered it sour grape over being jilted by a coach. They also complained about Heupels "system" and the fact that he had won with Frosts recruits but his recruiting results didn't appear to be at nearly the same level.

Can Heupel change? Hope so. I think he's a good man, but I have to wonder if his firing at OU damaged him to the point that he isn't willing to make the tough decisions that all college coaches face? He will get a pass this year due to the Nico teams antics. At some point soon, this will be the team that Heupel will have to own. I'm not sure how that will turn out for him.

100% correct here. Sure he’s gonna get some slack for the Nico thing but this is a big distraction from continuing to keep awful coaches like Elarbee. Our OL is going to be below average in the SEC without some insane spring portal signings.

We have a very legit chance to win 7 games which will be very bad for the program

 

[MarcoVol]

What is our philosophy now? The book is out on the Heupel scheme. Are we moving to the pistol as rumored? Given our situation on the OL and with the WRs, I'd have to think we'd need a guy who has some serious running ability. Kinda want the Becht kid to be honest.

What’s our situation on the OL?

What’s our situation with WRs besides lack of depth?

 

[therickbol]

lol
Whatever

Boo is one guy and he’s not irreplaceable

How could we possibly field a team without Boo Carter? We should shut down the entire program if he leaves.

 

[R0CKYT0P 16]

How many players on the 98 team, the 2001 team wouldve angled for a pay raise back then? How many did and we just never heard about it? Not saying its moral or ethical, but its the way its set up.

Boo can help us, or hurt us. Just that simple.

Because our recruiting is average. We have no choice.

Kelley Washington would have 100% angled for a pay raise. Especially after that LSU game where he went for 250+

 

[MoCo_Vol]

What is our philosophy now? The book is out on the Heupel scheme. Are we moving to the pistol as rumored? Given our situation on the OL and with the WRs, I'd have to think we'd need a guy who has some serious running ability. Kinda want the Becht kid to be honest.

Pistol in itself isn't a philosophy, just a formation choice within the spread.

Spread is really the system philosophy we run, within it you have some variances though. Air Raid which is more focused on quick passes and less runs overall, Traditional Spread mostly shotgun with classic option runs (read option specifically), and then Pistol which opens up more running choices...sweeps from WRs or RBs lined up closer to the OL etc. also QB is closer to OL and RB usually directly behind him.


We're more traditional spread, but the WR sets and routes are altered to be wider and more about spacing the secondary.

 

[barney]

Remember when it took Heupel four months to hire a dc and we were all quietly panicking? I member

 

[JohnnyD1024]

 

[Enki_Amenra]

I don't see the hand-wringing for the OL. It should be at least average and probably better. We've got good enough players that @Glitch & @Weezer combined couldn't screw up.

 

[butchna]

Yep, but fans won't want to take a critical look at this coach or his history at UCF.

We got guys for that. Just tell us what’s not good enough.

 

[therickbol]

These will be rollin in all day

And posters will be claiming all day that most of them are players that are a MUST HAVE for UT to be successful. It should be a fun day.

 

[Enki_Amenra]

 

[Enki_Amenra]

 

[UTProf]

Its the same frustration since won the Orange Bowl. Status quo. Lack of urgency.

Just once, id like to see a home run. Cmon Huepful, lfg!

At different times….Nico was a home run. Heupel wasn’t. We know who has been better for Vol football.

 

[MoCo_Vol]

100% correct here. Sure he’s gonna get some slack for the Nico thing but this is a big distraction from continuing to keep awful coaches like Elarbee. Our OL is going to be below average in the SEC without some insane spring portal signings.

We have a very legit chance to win 7 games which will be very bad for the program

I don't get this mindset...OL is probably the #1 position group where you want to build from HS talent. Guys with 2 or 3 years in your system end up being starters.

We've recruited 4 & 5 star HS talent at the OL in every class.

Sanders Jr - 5 *
Nic Moore - 4 *
Bennett Warren - 4 *
Max Anderson - 4 *
William Satterwhite - 4 *
Shamurad Umarov - 4 *


We've also added portal guys each class to help get experience and depth. Some of those pieces won starting roles even. Now...I am a bit worried we've really not seen an Elarbee HS recruit starting yet. That's for sure fair, but he also inherited a young OL group originally...

 

[DD4ME]

 

[therickbol]

100% correct here. Sure he’s gonna get some slack for the Nico thing but this is a big distraction from continuing to keep awful coaches like Elarbee. Our OL is going to be below average in the SEC without some insane spring portal signings.

We have a very legit chance to win 7 games which will be very bad for the program

Much more likely we have a Top 5 OL in the SEC than a "below average" OL this season.

 

[swchandler1988]

You're probably not going to like this, but Butch recruited more offensive stars in those two classes than Heupel has in his 5 years here.

I knowwww that

 

[Enki_Amenra]

I knowwww that

@TN-POSSUM

 

[Enki_Amenra]

 

[Hardy]

or *brat, for those who speak sausage

I don’t see where it says nonstandard, but acceptable. Nonstandard=not acceptable