Recruiting Football Talk VIII

[DD4ME]

Couldn't pay him with how they acted. Pay him now, have to pay more for an SEC title game and more for each playoff game. We'd probably end up over $6mil/yr for him. No way he's worth 50% more than Tony Vintella

We agree bro, but bring a loss and watch Nico roll North Dakota school for the blind and some will be asking if we could have handled it better.

 

[Vols2DaWall]

It has to be UCLA for Nico I would imagine. I am sure they can pay him some but have fun getting destroyed in front of a half empty stadium.

Also think their OL is putrid

 

[Enki_Amenra]

They make changes with an eye on the current times. Someone using "brung" makes me question their schooling. Then again....loose/lose... there/they're/their... guess that horse has already bolted the barn.

I will never accept loose for lose in my class.

 

[Jimmy Football]

I will never accept loose for lose in my class.

You’ve loost me on this one.

 

[Jackcrevol]

I will never accept loose for lose in my class.

great point

 

[DD4ME]

I turned on my troll account radar on team, best you keep your anti-virus active regardless.

 

[Jackcrevol]

We agree bro, but bring a loss and watch Nico roll North Dakota school for the blind and some will be asking if we could have handled it better.

NDSU is a BA program. Win dat Nat air other year.

 

[Enki_Amenra]

@Freak
We need a ticker running across the screen of every portal entry as soon as they come in, like the stock market,

 

[CAVPUT]

I like Robertson...6'4" 220lbs was a 4 star and top 25 QB outta Texas in the 2021 class went to Miss State to play for Mike Leach so got a year learning the Air Raid offense. Then 2 years at Baylor and the season he started he was running the spread under Jake Spavital... so should have a pretty good handle on a lot of the same philosophy we run.

What is our philosophy now? The book is out on the Heupel scheme. Are we moving to the pistol as rumored? Given our situation on the OL and with the WRs, I'd have to think we'd need a guy who has some serious running ability. Kinda want the Becht kid to be honest.

 

[NMVol]

My son is constantly saying “brung” instead of “brought”. Just yesterday we have this exchange.

“I brung home my math test. You need to sign it.”

“Ok, but brought is the correct term.”

“But everyone at school says brung.”

So I look it up.
View attachment 735811

So nonstandard but still acceptable. I will not accept “broughten” though.

or *brat, for those who speak sausage

 

[DD4ME]

I will never accept loose for lose in my class.

You should losen up your standards sir.

 

[DD4ME]

What is our philosophy now? The book is out on the Heupel scheme. Are we moving to the pistol as rumored? Given our situation on the OL and with the WRs, I'd have to think we'd need a guy who has some serious running ability. Kinda want the Becht kid to be honest.

Become multiple: Pistol + 12 personnel + more rub concepts - less vertical. More like Golesh + Ole Miss and less like a teen on NCAA spamming gut runs and vertical streaks.

 

[Jackcrevol]

@Freak
We need a ticker running across the screen of every portal entry as soon as they come in, like the stock market,

@Freak will just sit back and laugh as we hit the porthole tick-her and instead we get a pop up.

He'll shake his head 'morans'.

 

[Jackcrevol]

Become multiple.

 

[UpstateVol613]

I could see this happening.

 

[Checker_the_Shire]

I could see this happening.

 

[Jackcrevol]

I could see this happening.

Its the same frustration since won the Orange Bowl. Status quo. Lack of urgency.

Just once, id like to see a home run. Cmon Huepful, lfg!

 

[Vols410]

Its the same frustration since won the Orange Bowl. Status quo. Lack of urgency.

Just once, id like to see a home run. Cmon Huepful, lfg!

 

[Vols4us]

He needs to drastically upgrade his staff. I think his loyalty to guys in his sphere is admirable, but when they simply can't do the job at a level this league demands, it's the wrong move. We have some coaches on this staff who were bad hires/promotions.

We've got players who are bad evals. Keep going back to the UCF fans on their board who voiced similar complaints. Initially, I considered it sour grape over being jilted by a coach. They also complained about Heupels "system" and the fact that he had won with Frosts recruits but his recruiting results didn't appear to be at nearly the same level.

Can Heupel change? Hope so. I think he's a good man, but I have to wonder if his firing at OU damaged him to the point that he isn't willing to make the tough decisions that all college coaches face? He will get a pass this year due to the Nico teams antics. At some point soon, this will be the team that Heupel will have to own. I'm not sure how that will turn out for him.

Very legit points and post IMO. Agree completely.

Top dog cannot have "friends" as subordinates that he is not willing to part with if their work is not to the level it needs to be. Top dog and the program lose if he does. We all know the weak spots in the sfaff. He should as well and do something about it. Being approx 10th in recruiting seasonally with questions in development in a few position groups to go with scheme/playcalling issues will not provide him the job security most all of us want him to have. Having a good man with a strong understanding of the T and its tradition is important, but so is achieving excellence as Voltello and Barnes have.

Hope he takes the next step. Now would be the time with Volnation rallying behind him and the program with this Nico mess. The national goodwill for the Vol program as a whole is at a high right now. Capitalize on it.

 

[CAVPUT]

Don't believe for a moment Boo is pulling a Nico. The kid got everything he wanted in last negotiations. Bump in pay and shot at playing offense and defense, what more would he want! A Bugatti

If so, I think it's ridiculous and short sighted given the Nico situation. So a potential "leader" on defense who wants to be a two way player and the primary return man on special teams is angling for.yet another raise after presumably getting a bump recently along with Matthews? Yeah, that's a real team leader. I'd certainly feel great about depending on a guy like that.

 

[Enki_Amenra]

Its the same frustration since won the Orange Bowl. Status quo. Lack of urgency.

Just once, id like to see a home run. Cmon Huepful, lfg!

I've been hearing that Meyton Panning has a lot of interest.

 

[Jackcrevol]

Very legit points and post IMO. Agree completely.

Top dog cannot have "friends" as subordinates that he is not willing to part with if their work is not to the level it needs to be. Top dog and the program lose if he does. We all know the weak spots in the sfaff. He should as well and do something about it. Being approx 10th in recruiting seasonally with questions in development in a few position groups to go with scheme/playcalling issues will not provide him the job security most all of us want him to have. Having a good man with a strong understanding of the T and its tradition is important, but so is achieving excellence as Voltello and Barnes have.

Hope he takes the next step. Now would be the time with Volnation rallying behind him and the program with this Nico mess. The national goodwill for the Vol program as a whole is at a high right now. Capitalize on it.

hundo

 

[Jackcrevol]

Don't believe for a moment Boo is pulling a Nico. The kid got everything he wanted in last negotiations. Bump in pay and shot at playing offense and defense, what more would he want! A Bugatti

A Boo-gatti!

 

[UTProf]

This^

How discouraging is it to WRs in this offense to run all over the field all night and have 0 faith they'll get the ball when they get open bc the QB will not predict the route and throw them open or hit them in stride. Bc the QB consistently holds the ball too long.

Then the WRs inevitably reduce their effort. Then they look bad.

Last season Thornton was the only WR who realized Nico needed more help with the obvious and that’s probably because he had more experience than most of the others. He’d come back and bail Nico out but Nico was also guilty of tossing some murder balls. It’s no wonder Squirrel stayed injured.

 

[Enki_Amenra]

Very legit points and post IMO. Agree completely.

Top dog cannot have "friends" as subordinates that he is not willing to part with if their work is not to the level it needs to be. Top dog and the program lose if he does. We all know the weak spots in the sfaff. He should as well and do something about it. Being approx 10th in recruiting seasonally with questions in development in a few position groups to go with scheme/playcalling issues will not provide him the job security most all of us want him to have. Having a good man with a strong understanding of the T and its tradition is important, but so is achieving excellence as Voltello and Barnes have.

Hope he takes the next step. Now would be the time with Volnation rallying behind him and the program with this Nico mess. The national goodwill for the Vol program as a whole is at a high right now. Capitalize on it.

Which should tell you how bad the situation with Nico really was for him to cut him lose.