Pruitts qb reasoning? (Lengthy)

[TheVolsFrog]

I don't think Pruitt gives a damn about "distrust in our backups with the fan base". We've got 2 young qbs backing up JG. Neither apparently is ready to take the job. One of the worst mistakes you can make with a young quarterback is to throw him into the fire before he's ready and ruin his confidence. This idea that Pruitt is somehow playing some sort of game to pacify the fans about his choice for the starting qb is...no offense...silly. When either of the backups is deemed ready to play and wins the job from JG, I have no doubt they'll make the change. One thing I'm certain of...no coach is going to keep a more talented/prepared player on the bench. They'll play the kids that give them the best chance to win regardless of what the fans may think.

You might not want to throw a young guy out there against teams like Bama or Ga but if JG gets out there and stinks it up against BYU or Chatt. I say put one of the other guys in and see what he has during game time. Maybe getting benched will make him work harder to keep his starting position, if he pouts on the side line and doesn't try and help the young guys then he's not a team leader and don't need him. Look at Hurts getting benched. He had all the reasons in the world to suck and pout but nope he cheered on Tua and game planned with him.

Personally I think JG got the job because Pruitt didn't want to risk starting the season without a QB that has serious playing time at the D1 level with the Vols

 

[k-town_king]

9/10 on 3rd and 4th and short by a Sunbelt team and blame the qb.

 

[GAVol]

Uhm...you need to revisit that.
Dabo named Lawrence the starter and Bryant immediately went to the transfer portal.

You're right. But the reason Lawrence started getting a lot of snaps was Bryant went down in the first half against Ga Southern and was limited so they split snaps the next week and Lawrence lit it up.

 

[1vol8]

That's what is pissing me off!

If he could just get on the damn field PEOPLE WOULD SHUT UP. On both sides.

Me and you would shut up, and the people that don't know his skills would finally see what we've already known and shut up as well.

Pruitt is really pissing me off...

If he were rated where he deserved to be the argument would be COMPLETELY different. (You’ll see the difference in narrative surrounding Bailey next year) It’d be 50/50 Maurer vs Bailey opinions for the starter 2020. I noticed a day or so ago you getting drilled for suggesting he’s better than Bailey and you responded with something along the lines “didn’t say that” (which you didn’t). But I’ll go on record saying he is. Bailey is limited in comparison. BM has a stronger arm and a hell of a lot faster. I can go on and on but Simply put.... there is nothing HB can do that BM can’t but there’s a list of things the other way around. HBs flaws are masked by his team and mostly AG. Trust me.... it pisses me off too when a kid gets sold short for political reasons. Some don’t trust me on here and that’s fine but my Avatar is from last years “The opening”. I was invited just as I was 2017. I’m trusted by others it seems.

 

[Woke]

I don't think Pruitt gives a damn about "distrust in our backups with the fan base". We've got 2 young qbs backing up JG. Neither apparently is ready to take the job. One of the worst mistakes you can make with a young quarterback is to throw him into the fire before he's ready and ruin his confidence. This idea that Pruitt is somehow playing some sort of game to pacify the fans about his choice for the starting qb is...no offense...silly. When either of the backups is deemed ready to play and wins the job from JG, I have no doubt they'll make the change. One thing I'm certain of...no coach is going to keep a more talented/prepared player on the bench. They'll play the kids that give them the best chance to win regardless of what the fans may think.

Idk whether Pruitt chose JG to start based on better talent or just experience or both and neither do you.

Given JG’s limitations I doubt the decision was made solely on talent. It seems logical to me that a Year 2 HC would want to go with the more experienced QB despite JG’s known deficiencies so he shuffled his staff to get TWO former NC winning QBs Weinke and Martin as resources plus Jim Chaney a proven QB coach / OC not to mention leaning on Manning to provide advice.

All of this was a big bet that given these resources JG would finally “get it” and up his game. Instead none of this seemed to make any difference if anything JG was just as bad game 1 if not worse and QB’d our team to the most humiliating beatdown in school history vs Sunbelt State.

Despite having time to throw and open WR’s all over the field JG couldn’t find them and checked down all night, putting insurmountable pressure on our already gassed mediocre D. That’s a recipe for continued disaster.

Forget opinions here’s where we are now: the strength of our O is in our experienced WR corps and we need to start a QB with a vertical game to get them the ball DOWNFIELD. Or every game we play is going to be a repeat of our first.

Maurer is a true Frosh who camped with Bo Nix at the Elite QB Camp. If Nix can do it at AUB then Maurer can do it here. In some ways Maurer graded out higher.

Continuing to start JG hoping for a better result is Einstein’s definition of insanity. He’s a lost cause atp imo. I’d rather play for the future and struggle with the freshman who can get the ball downfield.

 

[Old Geezer]

I understand JG has his flaws, but imagine being absolutely drilled and brutalized repeatedly for two years due to inept protection. I think JG is having trouble concentrating on developments downfield due to watching for whose coming after him. I know I would.
It was a huge mistake to shuffle linemen constantly destroying any o-line continuity. Hopefully the O-line will get settled and JG can settle down and concentrate on tracking receivers downfield.

 

[1vol8]

Really? Let me get this straight. It sounds like you are saying Pruitt is sabotaging his career to feel like the man. When he would feel like the man by being a HC and winning games. Yes, that makes sense.

Not at all. I’m pointing out facts that happened and possibilities of reasons why that actually make more sense than keep JG under center. Now I’ll admit it may have come off that way as I’m still a little pissed at JGs play. By Wednesday I may have written it differently. I actually do still like JG and trust Pruitt believe it or not.

 

[peerless98]

The way that defense can played against GA state, we’re not gonna win much of anything.

If that is our D's norm; we will be fortunate to win 2 games.

 

[JMSqb11]

You might not want to throw a young guy out there against teams like Bama or Ga but if JG gets out there and stinks it up against BYU or Chatt. I say put one of the other guys in and see what he has during game time. Maybe getting benched will make him work harder to keep his starting position, if he pouts on the side line and doesn't try and help the young guys then he's not a team leader and don't need him. Look at Hurts getting benched. He had all the reasons in the world to suck and pout but nope he cheered on Tua and game planned with him.

Personally I think JG got the job because Pruitt didn't want to risk starting the season without a QB that has serious playing time at the D1 level with the Vols

I go back to when Peterman got his first start in Florida even though the week before in Oregon, the game was over at half time.

Peterman’s first game action was in the swamp. It made no sense to not let him play the second half the week prior in a game already decided on the road instead of throwing him to the wolves in the swamp. Do not repeat that mistake. If there is a change, it needs to be BYU and then all 4 quarters vs UTC. You don’t throw a freshmen to the wolves with first game action being week 4

 

[LittleVol]

If he were rated where he deserved to be the argument would be COMPLETELY different. (You’ll see the difference in narrative surrounding Bailey next year) It’d be 50/50 Maurer vs Bailey opinions for the starter 2020. I noticed a day or so ago you getting drilled for suggesting he’s better than Bailey and you responded with something along the lines “didn’t say that” (which you didn’t). But I’ll go on record saying he is. Bailey is limited in comparison. BM has a stronger arm and a hell of a lot faster. I can go on and on but Simply put.... there is nothing HB can do that BM can’t but there’s a list of things the other way around. HBs flaws are masked by his team and mostly AG. Trust me.... it pisses me off too when a kid gets sold short for political reasons. Some don’t trust me on here and that’s fine but my Avatar is from last years “The opening”. I was invited just as I was 2017. I’m trusted by others it seems.

What do you do?
Generally speaking. You don't need to tell me exactly.

When I was a scout/consultant over 5 years ago I was basically "in-house" yet not a direct employee of the university. I never got the invite for things as big as The Opening.

Bailey has great touch and feel for the pocket. Arm strength is a wash imo. Maurer does have a cannon. And yeah he's Wide Receiver fast.

 

[OrangeSquid]

... I think JG is having trouble concentrating on developments downfield due to watching for whose coming after him. I know I would.
It was a huge mistake to shuffle linemen constantly destroying any o-line continuity. Hopefully the O-line will get settled and JG can settle down and concentrate on tracking receivers downfield.

Well, he's failed miserably on the first item and as for the second, I'd say he had nearly twice the time to decide where he should chuck the ball so far.

 

[1vol8]

What do you do?
Generally speaking. You don't need to tell me exactly.

When I was a scout/consultant over 5 years ago I was basically "in-house" yet not a direct employee of the university. I never got the invite for things as big as The Opening.

Bailey has great touch and feel for the pocket. Arm strength is a wash imo. Maurer does have a cannon. And yeah he's Wide Receiver fast.

I’m a private qb coach and HS OC. I moved from Brian’s area about a year ago to Atlanta.

Arm strength is a little dicey sometimes but all I have to go on is HB long toss was 58. BM was 65. (62 at the opening. 65 at the Orlando qb challenge) but that’s a significant enough difference to say BM takes that one. They are a wash in pocket awareness imo. And both are very impressive with their touch. BM is more accurate underneath and intermediate. A wash on deep accuracy. BM is faster through progressions and obviously more elusive.

They are both very good QBs so don’t get it twisted. BM is just harder to defend

 

[cHiZzLeVOL]

It's simple. He is much better than the other two.

65% with 300 yards isn't getting a qb benched. Lmao

JG sucks period. If you don’t see that by now you are blind. His turnovers cost us the game. His inability to put himself on the line to gain critical first downs cost us the game. Throwing in front of the stick on 3rd and 2 cost us the game. He is awful. He had like 2 passes past 20yds the rest of it was YAC. His yardage is skewed thanks to the YAC.

He threw the freaking ball out of bounds on 4th and 3 in the 4th quarter for crying out loud! JG sucks and is not the answer.

Multiple times he had over 3 secs to throw and he allowed himself to get sacked with almost 6 secs to throw the ball.

 

[LittleVol]

I’m a private qb coach and HS OC. I moved from Brian’s area about a year ago to Atlanta.

Arm strength is a little dicey sometimes but all I have to go on is HB long toss was 58. BM was 65. (62 at the opening. 65 at the Orlando qb challenge) but that’s a significant enough difference to say BM takes that one. They are a wash in pocket awareness imo. And both are very impressive with their touch. BM is more accurate underneath and intermediate. A wash on deep accuracy. BM is faster through progressions and obviously more elusive.

They are both very good QBs so don’t get it twisted. BM is just harder to defend

Oh I wasn't trying to twist anything lol.

Here is the problem right now. The team doesn't believe in JG. And JG doesn't believe in JG.
It's making an already bad situation worse.

Because of Pruitt... SMH...we won't see Brian until the swamp.

 

[1vol8]

Oh I wasn't trying to twist anything lol.

Here is the problem right now. The team doesn't believe in JG. And JG doesn't believe in JG.
It's making an already bad situation worse.

Because of Pruitt... SMH...we won't see Brian until the swamp.

I don’t think that’s the best time to take his first snaps but he’s spent his career proving doubters wrong. If that happens he may become a household name overnight.

 

[1vol8]

Oh I wasn't trying to twist anything lol.

Here is the problem right now. The team doesn't believe in JG. And JG doesn't believe in JG.
It's making an already bad situation worse.

Because of Pruitt... SMH...we won't see Brian until the swamp.

And I meant I’m not saying HB sucks. He’s just not on the level most think yet.

 

[1vol8]

Oh I wasn't trying to twist anything lol.

Here is the problem right now. The team doesn't believe in JG. And JG doesn't believe in JG.
It's making an already bad situation worse.

Because of Pruitt... SMH...we won't see Brian until the swamp.

It would also be epic to him like no other team on the schedule as well given he was literally 45 min south and Mullen had no idea until after he committed to Tennessee.

 

[Woke]

I don’t think that’s the best time to take his first snaps but he’s spent his career proving doubters wrong. If that happens he may become a household name overnight.

Frosh Nix at AUB became a literal household name after his clutch throw to beat OR

 

[revjayp]

We get it. Maurer is your guy.

JG is not an elite QB and he took some snacks he shouldn't have and isn't the type that will take over a game... but when did 65%, 311 yards and 2 TDs become an argument for the backup QB?

We just got 38 hung on us by Ga State in our house. What are we even talking about here?

I just threw up again reading that.

 

[1vol8]

Frosh Nix at AUB became a literal household name after his clutch throw to beat OR

Oh I know. But after watching him at the opening it didn’t surprise me at all. I was hyped for him and the atmosphere was electric! That kid pumped so much life into Auburn you could see it in the crowd.

 

[revjayp]

It's real simple, this team/ program needs a spark. If that means bringing a freshman in at QB and giving the starter time to reevaluate what his goal is do it. Chaney seems to work well with freshman, if he's allowed to call his game.

I don’t think we’re all ready to see a Freshman get killed behind that atrocious line. That to me, is the biggest reason we haven’t and won’t see Shrout or Mauer Saturday: because it’s only a matter of time before JG runs off the field in his underwear confused and punch drunk unable to think clearly.

 

[revjayp]

The second play of the game was a Ty Chandler fumble. Not sure what that has to do with JG..

No, that was all on JG. He has no touch. He threw that like it was trying to throw the runner out at second. He can’t differentiate between a touch pass and a deep ball.

 

[revjayp]

You're arguing something completely different though. I was just saying that in general, freshmen wait their turn.

To your point though, I'm afraid Chaney playing a freshman QB at UGA was a completely different animal than what we're looking at now.

As I stated, our Oline is JUCO at best right now. Until Trey gets his legs under him and Morris and Wright settle in, our only option is to hope JG doesn’t die. Combine them with his propensity to hold the ball for 14 seconds, and he might as well play cowboy poker. It’d be just as dangerous. My 2 cents.

 

[TexasVol16]

JG is horrible. When he slid before the first down marker he should have been pulled. BM needs to get reps and confidence before game 4 at the Swamp. Tennessee needs something fresh starting Saturday to erase that debacle this past Saturday. Chaney needs to call a much better game; the play calling was HORRIBLE! Remember when we once were Receiver U? Take the ball deep! When Michigan last to Appalachian State in 2007, they started 0-2 and ended up 9-4 with a bowl win over Florida. There is still hope if the coaches actually coach.

 

[1vol8]

I don’t think we’re all ready to see a Freshman get killed behind that atrocious line. That to me, is the biggest reason we haven’t and won’t see Shrout or Mauer Saturday: because it’s only a matter of time before JG runs off the field in his underwear confused and punch drunk unable to think clearly.

There was no excuse to not give one or both of them a few snaps once the game was decided in a passing situation unless there’s at least a little truth to the thread.