Pruitts qb reasoning? (Lengthy)

#76
#76
We gotta start learning to put 2and 2 together on this one guys. As we all know practices are closed to the media and public. There’s a reason for that. So we only know what they WANT us to know. We know what we’re being spoon fed and we except it as truth. Although personally we’ve all gotten to witness a spring game with all involved that’s mandatory and 1 full game of nothing but JG.

Throughout spring and fall camp we’ve heard one narrative from our coach that promised us the best guys would play and the media that reports within guidelines (you can chose for yourself if you believe every word of what no one seen as complete truth).
That narrative is “The back ups are inconsistent.” And you would think JG is flawless. Believe what you wish but you can’t convince me JG hasn’t thrown erratically in practice nor can you convince me he hasn’t thrown ints. We’ve seen it in games. About two weeks ago CJP was quoted saying “the backups need to stop throwing the ball to the other team.” A few days later Weinke was quoted saying “they haven’t thrown many.”🤔. At this point we’ve seen JG perform twice. Both times he was as inconsistent as you would think any qb in the SEC could be. All of the same issues we all seen from last season, on display, once again, TWICE already in 2019.

In the spring game JG was as one point 2-9. That’s inconsistent. He struggled throughout the game with accuracy and finished just over 50%. That’s inconsistent. His TD pass to Palmer in the back of the end zone was contested with a wide open JJ underneath. That’s inconsistent or arguably consistently as bad as last year. He held the ball too long. Inconsistent. Took sacks. Inconsistent. In fact the ONLY “consistency” we PERSONALLY SEEN was BM. He started 5-5. Could’ve been 7-7 if not for a bobble OOB by a TE. He opened the second half with a bad mistake but responded with proof of a bad memory and the most beautiful throw of the day to J.Lowe. His second int is debatable if Keyton could’ve made that play and my answer is yes. But given what we all personally seen that day I have to ask if you would bet your paychecks that the white team comes out on top if JG and BM were the only 2 qbs? I know I would hesitate after seeing that.

Which brings me to my conclusion. This is a coaching tactic that’s backfired a bit. CJP has been using the media and himself to keep the competition for #2 as competitive as possible. All it’s done is create a false distrust in our backups with the fan base after seeing JGs performance. In fact I’d say they may be better in a lot of areas. The difference is experience and experience alone. Not talent. I think CJP knows that BM is our best chance to win OFFENSIVELY. But he’s a defensive minded coach. JGs style of play allows the game to have to be won DEFENSIVELY. Why else would you look at the top of the depth chart and see JG over BM for BYU after GAST? Pruitt wants to win with defense. And after looking at all the circumstances that’s the opinion I’ve come up with.

I don't think Pruitt gives a damn about "distrust in our backups with the fan base". We've got 2 young qbs backing up JG. Neither apparently is ready to take the job. One of the worst mistakes you can make with a young quarterback is to throw him into the fire before he's ready and ruin his confidence. This idea that Pruitt is somehow playing some sort of game to pacify the fans about his choice for the starting qb is...no offense...silly. When either of the backups is deemed ready to play and wins the job from JG, I have no doubt they'll make the change. One thing I'm certain of...no coach is going to keep a more talented/prepared player on the bench. They'll play the kids that give them the best chance to win regardless of what the fans may think.
 
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#78
#78
Oh wow. You just now getting initiated to his unique brand of insanity.

I been on a k-town drip feed chinese water torture for, well since that GA Tech game. So I have built up a tolerance, if not immunity to his toxic brand of buffoonery.

You trying to absorb it all at once? That's ill advised, my friend. The human constitution just aint built for kind of system shock.
😂
 
#80
#80
We get it. Maurer is your guy.

JG is not an elite QB and he took some snacks he shouldn't have and isn't the type that will take over a game... but when did 65%, 311 yards and 2 TDs become an argument for the backup QB?

We just got 38 hung on us by Ga State in our house. What are we even talking about here?
Your logic is every bit as absurd. A good QB sustains drives, get the extra 2-3 1st downs, makes the tough throws, steps up into the pocket to "avoid" the sack. This in turn, keeps the opponents defense on the field (it was 90 degrees Saturday), which wears them down, oh, to cap things off, a good QB scores at the end of those long drives. JG, has feet of concrete. Poor check-off skills (why do you think Peyton always texts him and asks if he has been watching film?), and is the LEAST worrisome QB in the SEC for other teams pre-game prep.

It's really this simple. We have a Tennessee Tech qb in the SEC Conference. Anybody see that freshman from Auburn? Anybody want to trade? Think Auburn would trade for our R-Jr. for that true freshman?

Your Honor, the prosecution rests.
 
#83
#83
Not sure why that matters. I doubt Fromm sees any significant snaps his freshman year if Jacob Eason doesn't get hurt.

Yet he was given a system that he could succeed in. Chaney has been around plenty freshmen QB’s....
 
#84
#84
Your logic is every bit as absurd. A good QB sustains drives, get the extra 2-3 1st downs, makes the tough throws, steps up into the pocket to "avoid" the sack. This in turn, keeps the opponents defense on the field (it was 90 degrees Saturday), which wears them down, oh, to cap things off, a good QB scores at the end of those long drives. JG, has feet of concrete. Poor check-off skills (why do you think Peyton always texts him and asks if he has been watching film?), and is the LEAST worrisome QB in the SEC for other teams pre-game prep.

It's really this simple. We have a Tennessee Tech qb in the SEC Conference. Anybody see that freshman from Auburn? Anybody want to trade? Think Auburn would trade for our R-Jr. for that true freshman?

Your Honor, the prosecution rests.
Lol... You'd think I was advocating for Guarantano to have his number retired. I'm not saying he's necessarily any good, just that it's a leap to assume the other guys are better.
 
#85
#85
I don't think Pruitt gives a damn about "distrust in our backups with the fan base". We've got 2 young qbs backing up JG. Neither apparently is ready to take the job. One of the worst mistakes you can make with a young quarterback is to throw him into the fire before he's ready and ruin his confidence. This idea that Pruitt is somehow playing some sort of game to pacify the fans about his choice for the starting qb is...no offense...silly. When either of the backups is deemed ready to play and wins the job from JG, I have no doubt they'll make the change. One thing I'm certain of...no coach is going to keep a more talented/prepared player on the bench. They'll play the kids that give them the best chance to win regardless of what the fans may think.
That’s reasonable. I actually don’t disagree that neither are ready either. What I dislike (and I’m still pro Pruitt) is the way Pruitt handled the back up competition. Had he kept his criticism to himself and out of the public eye like he has JGs flaws then we wouldn’t have so many that now believe that neither are as or more talented than JG after watching his performance for the last 3 years. This has nothing to do with talent. It’s experience.
 
#86
#86
Yet he was given a system that he could succeed in. Chaney has been around plenty freshmen QB’s....
You're arguing something completely different though. I was just saying that in general, freshmen wait their turn.

To your point though, I'm afraid Chaney playing a freshman QB at UGA was a completely different animal than what we're looking at now.
 
#87
#87
You're arguing something completely different though. I was just saying that in general, freshmen wait their turn.

To your point though, I'm afraid Chaney playing a freshman QB at UGA was a completely different animal than what we're looking at now.

Okay. Look at Chaney’s last stint at Tennessee and playing Tyler Bray as a freshmen
 
#88
#88
Lol... You'd think I was advocating for Guarantano to have his number retired. I'm not saying he's necessarily any good, just that it's a leap to assume the other guys are better.
To be honest it was a leap of faith for Dabo to pull the plug on Bryant as well. What he did was offer a package for Lawrence for the first 4 weeks(?). Once he seen he could not only handle it but do it better it was all she wrote. Clemson doesn’t win the NC with Bryant so his “leap” changed history.
 
#89
#89
We get it. Maurer is your guy.

JG is not an elite QB and he took some snacks he shouldn't have and isn't the type that will take over a game... but when did 65%, 311 yards and 2 TDs become an argument for the backup QB?

We just got 38 hung on us by Ga State in our house. What are we even talking about here?

...... SMH.

Go Vols!
 
#90
#90
To be honest it was a leap of faith for Dabo to pull the plug on Bryant as well. What he did was offer a package for Lawrence for the first 4 weeks(?). Once he seen he could not only handle it but do it better it was all she wrote. Clemson doesn’t win the NC with Bryant so his “leap” changed history.

Absolutely...
QB are so much more advanced these days coming out of high school. Only Vol fans are screaming "don't ploy the freshman!"
 
#91
#91
To be honest it was a leap of faith for Dabo to pull the plug on Bryant as well. What he did was offer a package for Lawrence for the first 4 weeks(?). Once he seen he could not only handle it but do it better it was all she wrote. Clemson doesn’t win the NC with Bryant so his “leap” changed history.
Not exactly what happened.

Bryant had gotten Clemson to the playoff the year before and then got hurt in week 4 last year and bailed to save a year of his eligibility. Maybe Lawrence would've eventually beaten him out without the injury, but it wasn't exactly as historic a coaching move as you're telling.
 
#92
#92
Absolutely...
QB are so much more advanced these days coming out of high school. Only Vol fans are screaming "don't ploy the freshman!"
Dammit. Can y'all read, lol? I'm not saying a freshman has to sit. Just saying that's what ends up happening a lot unless there are circumstances. Peyton Manning wasn't supposed to even play in 1994 and he ended up SEC freshman of the year.
 
#93
#93
We get it. Maurer is your guy.

JG is not an elite QB and he took some snacks he shouldn't have and isn't the type that will take over a game... but when did 65%, 311 yards and 2 TDs become an argument for the backup QB?

We just got 38 hung on us by Ga State in our house. What are we even talking about here?

2019. 300 yards isnt' what it used to be.

Also, he's not a leader or confident, and will never win. We're better off moving on, even if that means changing the offense.
 
#94
#94
Yall want to put in either A, a three star true freshman, or B a three star RS freshman that had 25 ints as a high school senior because the qb had 300 yards and hit 65%?

We have some real dummies here. 🤣🤣🤣
How STUPID is it at this point to be talking about HS rankings?

The real "dummies" are those who keep reciting statistics while the ineffective offense keeps leading to losses.

This "great" statistical performance you keep talking about came against one of the worst D's in college football. Literally a team that allowed almost 500 ypg last year. Even with the "cheap" yardage in the last couple of minutes, JG was below what they averaged allowing last year. They allowed an absolutely amazing 72.8% completion rate last fall. JG's fine "142 QBR" compares to the season average last year of 177.

But I digress. You've made it completely obvious you care more about JG's stat line than you do UT wins.
 
#95
#95
Not exactly what happened.

Bryant had gotten Clemson to the playoff the year before and then got hurt in week 4 last year and bailed to save a year of his eligibility. Maybe Lawrence would've eventually beaten him out without the injury, but it wasn't exactly as historic a coaching move as you're telling.
Ok. Maybe some details slipped my mind but the point is Lawrence was a little more ready than given credit for. He was the most talented and at first he was riding pine. My point is very few know just how talented BM actually is because he was so criminally underrated by the same services that labeled JG a high 4* DT qb. And Maurer a pocket passer.
 
#96
#96
Not exactly what happened.

Bryant had gotten Clemson to the playoff the year before and then got hurt in week 4 last year and bailed to save a year of his eligibility. Maybe Lawrence would've eventually beaten him out without the injury, but it wasn't exactly as historic a coaching move as you're telling.

Uhm...you need to revisit that.
Dabo named Lawrence the starter and Bryant immediately went to the transfer portal.
 
#98
#98
Ok. Maybe some details slipped my mind but the point is Lawrence was a little more ready than given credit for. He was the most talented and at first he was riding pine. My point is very few know just how talented BM actually is because he was so criminally underrated by the same services that labeled JG a high 4* DT qb. And Maurer a pocket passer.

That's what is pissing me off!

If he could just get on the damn field PEOPLE WOULD SHUT UP. On both sides.

Me and you would shut up, and the people that don't know his skills would finally see what we've already known and shut up as well.

Pruitt is really pissing me off...
 
#99
#99
We gotta start learning to put 2and 2 together on this one guys. As we all know practices are closed to the media and public. There’s a reason for that. So we only know what they WANT us to know. We know what we’re being spoon fed and we except it as truth. Although personally we’ve all gotten to witness a spring game with all involved that’s mandatory and 1 full game of nothing but JG.

Throughout spring and fall camp we’ve heard one narrative from our coach that promised us the best guys would play and the media that reports within guidelines (you can chose for yourself if you believe every word of what no one seen as complete truth).
That narrative is “The back ups are inconsistent.” And you would think JG is flawless. Believe what you wish but you can’t convince me JG hasn’t thrown erratically in practice nor can you convince me he hasn’t thrown ints. We’ve seen it in games. About two weeks ago CJP was quoted saying “the backups need to stop throwing the ball to the other team.” A few days later Weinke was quoted saying “they haven’t thrown many.”🤔. At this point we’ve seen JG perform twice. Both times he was as inconsistent as you would think any qb in the SEC could be. All of the same issues we all seen from last season, on display, once again, TWICE already in 2019.

In the spring game JG was as one point 2-9. That’s inconsistent. He struggled throughout the game with accuracy and finished just over 50%. That’s inconsistent. His TD pass to Palmer in the back of the end zone was contested with a wide open JJ underneath. That’s inconsistent or arguably consistently as bad as last year. He held the ball too long. Inconsistent. Took sacks. Inconsistent. In fact the ONLY “consistency” we PERSONALLY SEEN was BM. He started 5-5. Could’ve been 7-7 if not for a bobble OOB by a TE. He opened the second half with a bad mistake but responded with proof of a bad memory and the most beautiful throw of the day to J.Lowe. His second int is debatable if Keyton could’ve made that play and my answer is yes. But given what we all personally seen that day I have to ask if you would bet your paychecks that the white team comes out on top if JG and BM were the only 2 qbs? I know I would hesitate after seeing that.

Which brings me to my conclusion. This is a coaching tactic that’s backfired a bit. CJP has been using the media and himself to keep the competition for #2 as competitive as possible. All it’s done is create a false distrust in our backups with the fan base after seeing JGs performance. In fact I’d say they may be better in a lot of areas. The difference is experience and experience alone. Not talent. I think CJP knows that BM is our best chance to win OFFENSIVELY. But he’s a defensive minded coach. JGs style of play allows the game to have to be won DEFENSIVELY. Why else would you look at the top of the depth chart and see JG over BM for BYU after GAST? Pruitt wants to win with defense. And after looking at all the circumstances that’s the opinion I’ve come up with.

Really? Let me get this straight. It sounds like you are saying Pruitt is sabotaging his career to feel like the man. When he would feel like the man by being a HC and winning games. Yes, that makes sense.
 
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