Pruitts qb reasoning? (Lengthy)

[1vol8]

It appears to me that Pruitt thought JG was a stable, safe and no turnover maker qb that would not give away games, a safe solution. What this team needs is the gunslinger emotional guy that believes he can make everything work. We need a Tyler Bray, not a game manager, because this team is not good enough for safe play. I don’t know if we have one of those on the team but I certainly would like to see. I know the fans would go crazy if the new guy went downfield a bunch and threw some picks, but wouldn’t it be fun to watch a guy just bring it all?

Underrated post here. As long as there was success going downfield as well I think it would not only be welcomed but it would pump new life into the fan base and put asses in the stands. The entire team would feel and show the results. The o line would better because there wouldn’t be a loaded box. Running lanes would open for the same reasons. Jennings, Calloway and Palmer would almost certainly be twice the dogs they already are because at this rate, they are not stupid kids by any means, they know the conservative approach is absolutely KILLING their opportunity to make to the next level. Sustaining drives as a result would give the defense more time to rest and in turn be more effective when called upon. A qbs playing style can change the results of every position that touches the field on both sides of ball in a heartbeat.

 

[1vol8]

I think it's a little hard to evaluate him because of the o-line. In some ways what hampers him the most (pass rush) is what buys him the benefit of the doubt. The question is how much is the protection and how much should he be able to mitigate with changes and getting the ball out on time to the right place.

I actually had a conversation with a guy on Tuesday that makes me think JG is seeing the field even worse than we think.

Understood. An o line can definitely hurt a qbs abilities but that doesn’t explain this past weekend where he had more time. The o line didn’t play bad. They actually played really good all things considered. I bet if I rewatched the game and took an o line countdown he more than likely averaged over 3 seconds of time. Hell... even last year I went back and watched the best defensive team we played (Alabama) and it was over 40 min into the YouTube video that I didn’t reach 3 Mississippi for the first time. (Feel free to look for yourself.) But yes it’s obvious he’s not seeing the field. That’s one of the biggest complaints of him in his 3rd year. Which reminds me..... didn’t CJP tell us that the game has really slowed down for him in the offseason? If he would tell us that then what makes anyone think he wouldn’t tell us the backups are worse than they are in reality?

 

[sjt18]

You, like most blaming him aren't making sense or using facts.

Almost 8 ypa isn't throwing all short passes. You don't complete 65% for 300 yards with the average line and wrs we have if you throw a lot of uncatchable balls.

If you "knew anything about football" or at a minimum weren't a blind cultist... you'd recognize what GSU did. They played their safeties up and played to stop the run first. Why? Because they knew that if they made UT sustain drives on JG's decision making... they could stop UT from scoring a lot of points. So you give him a throw here and there and play coverage just tight enough to make him take the short check down.

This is now a repeating pattern. Opposing D's have figured it out. You don't even have to have good players to do it as proven by GSU.

The QB has two main jobs. Manage the O and get the ball to the right playmaker. As great as JG's arm is... he continued to do both of those things poorly this past Saturday.

Because it is so important to UT winning, I truly hoped he would be better this year. The GSU game says he isn't.

So you don't want a good qb, just a good team?

Y'all are hilarious.

Those things aren't mutually exclusive but given the choice... yeah. I'd take a QB that pretty much sucked but won games over a guy who throws a beautiful pass and posts good "stats" but doesn't score points and win games.

Danny Wuerffel maybe have been one of the least talented QB's to ever start at UF or maybe the whole SEC. But he made great decisions and shot putted the ball to the right receiver at the right time consistently.

Casey Clausen had a funny throwing motion that took too long to deliver. He had feet of cast iron. But he could get the ball to the right receiver at the right time consistently. He was smart and tough and a great competitor.

Yeah... give me the less talented guy with worse "stat" lines who scores points and wins games every single time.

 

[BeardedVol]

If you "knew anything about football" or at a minimum weren't a blind cultist... you'd recognize what GSU did. They played their safeties up and played to stop the run first. Why? Because they knew that if they made UT sustain drives on JG's decision making... they could stop UT from scoring a lot of points. So you give him a throw here and there and play coverage just tight enough to make him take the short check down.

This is now a repeating pattern. Opposing D's have figured it out. You don't even have to have good players to do it as proven by GSU.

The QB has two main jobs. Manage the O and get the ball to the right playmaker. As great as JG's arm is... he does neither of those things well.

Come on man, it's not like Charlotte, South Carolina, and Vandy used the same game plan last year...wait...

 

[sjt18]

Come on man, it's not like Charlotte, South Carolina, and Vandy used the same game plan last year...wait...

Precisely. It doesn't even take good players to do it.

 

[Kelley_VFL]

The guys here blaming the QB are IDIOTS! I am not a JG nut hugger by far but he didn’t lose that game. Anyone I their right man mind could see that our DC was schooled that game. That is why we lost. We couldn’t stop their offense. And we couldn’t get pressure. And we couldn’t keep them from getting pressure. None of which is the QB problem.

When the other team doesn’t have to kick FG or punt YOU WILL LOSE! It’s that simple. Now shut up and climb back into your cave.

 

[JMSqb11]

The guys here blaming the QB are IDIOTS! I am not a JG nut hugger by far but he didn’t lose that game. Anyone I their right man mind could see that our DC was schooled that game. That is why we lost. We couldn’t stop their offense. And we couldn’t get pressure. And we couldn’t keep them from getting pressure. None of which is the QB problem.

When the other team doesn’t have to kick FG or punt YOU WILL LOSE! It’s that simple. Now shut up and climb back into your cave.

There is zero reason for the offense to only score 23 points on a Sun Belt team..... zero.

 

[sjt18]

The guys here blaming the QB are IDIOTS! I am not a JG nut hugger by far but he didn’t lose that game. Anyone I their right man mind could see that our DC was schooled that game.

Right... same as last year... same as the year before. The odd thing is all three of those staffs had had success with other QB's. Scott you could question but the other two you really can't. In fact, Chaney has been somewhat of a QB whisperer. Along with him, you have two NC QB's on the staff with one being a Heisman winner. The common denominator is a QB who does not make good decisions and cannot assess risks real time. A QB with a world of physical talent but who cannot seem to get the mental/instinctual part of playing the position.

That is why we lost. We couldn’t stop their offense. And we couldn’t get pressure. And we couldn’t keep them from getting pressure. None of which is the QB problem.

For most of the game, they didn't get pressure.... and JG still made decisions that did not sustain drives. They knew that was his history. They counted on it. They game planned it... and sure enough UT's O stalled because of it.

When the other team doesn’t have to kick FG or punt YOU WILL LOSE! It’s that simple.

Yet UT could have put them away early had the O been able to score points... if a 5 yard bullet from JG had not set GSU up with a short field.

Now shut up and climb back into your cave.

If that game is indicative of where JG is as a QB and he is not replaced then UT may well lose 11 games this year. They're not going to score points and the D isn't strong enough to win games on their own. So you can be as stupid and cutesy as you like... but what we saw Saturday is what he's been since taking over as starter. He gets "stats" by sticking to hyper-safe throws but does not take the burden off the run game OR score points.

Since JG became the starter, UT has never scored over 30 points against an FBS defense. So until he starts leading the O to points... you can shut up and crawl back into your cave.

 

[sjt18]

The guys here blaming the QB are IDIOTS! I am not a JG nut hugger by far but he didn’t lose that game. Anyone I their right man mind could see that our DC was schooled that game. That is why we lost. We couldn’t stop their offense. And we couldn’t get pressure. And we couldn’t keep them from getting pressure. None of which is the QB problem.

When the other team doesn’t have to kick FG or punt YOU WILL LOSE! It’s that simple. Now shut up and climb back into your cave.

Here's a "fun stat" for you. Since JG became the starter, UT has only scored more than the opponent's season average points allowed 3 times. UK and Auburn last year which appear to simply be anomalies. And Bama last year in a complete blowout where they went to their bench.

Other positions have changed. The common denominator is JG.