New QB being Installed During Offweek

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Freak said:
Lol. I’ve heard it all now. We’ve had issues on defense since game one. That has nothing to do with who the quarterback is. Good grief.
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I didn’t say it was the only issue but it certainly is factoring into the performance now. My phrasing in the prior post was “it’s one of the reasons”. It has also been mentioned by others on VN so my opinion is not unique.
 
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ShoalCreekVol said:
Guys like Chris Kliemann and Matt Rhule prove that wrong. Real leaders can walk into any situation, business or sports, and instantly make it better. It will trend up consistently with good leadership.

This year you can look at guys like Sam Pittman to see it happening as well.

We have talent, not George or Bama talent but still, but this coaching staff and entire program is dysfunctional from the very top down.

At a time when we need Pruitt to let go of micromanaging the details and focus on being a leader of the organization, he decides to make himself defensive line coach. He's going entirely the wrong direction.
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Anyone you just mentioned would have 2 more losses on their record had they played Bama and UGA.

His mistake has been the qb spot and that was costly against UK.
 
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allvol123 said:
He is a great CEO. He has wealth in terms of resources and talent and doesnt mismanage it.

When saddled with average talent, MSU, he performed like many guys with average talent. Same as NFL.

He walks into 80% of college games where a loss by his team would be unrealistic due to the talent discrepancy alone.
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That's why Spurrier basically downplayed his greatest saying he'd have to see him do it somewhere else besides Bama.. He definitely enjoys certain advantages there that he wouldn't most places..
 
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sjt18 said:
I don't think that was the point.

If the players no longer believe in JG or they think someone else should be playing and Pruitt is starting JG anyway then that will kill morale. It will destroy trust. The locker room will divide.... and that's bad news with leadership questions already being raised.
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Sure that can happen as a season progresses. But we’ve had weaknesses on defense that were evident since game one that have nothing to do with morale or who the quarterback is. He specifically said that’s one of the reasons for the regression on defense and I don’t buy it. Two and a half games ago we had an eight game winning streak, were ahead of Georgia at halftime and morale seemed fine.
 
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Freak said:
Sure that can happen as a season progresses. But we’ve had weaknesses on defense that were evident since game one that have nothing to do with morale or who the quarterback is. He specifically said that’s one of the reasons for the regression on defense and I don’t buy it. Two and a half games ago we had an eight game winning streak, were ahead of Georgia at halftime and morale seemed fine.
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The D has problems and it could be scheme. UT seems far more vulnerable down the middle than they should be. I wonder if that wasn't something Kirby's been saving.
 
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vegasvolfan said:
Tennessee was apparently hit substantially harder with COVID. If HB starts 6 games in, seems about right.
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I’m sure “some” other schools were probably hit hard as well.

If HB starts 6 games in.....it’s probably because Tennessee has been having all kinds of problems........seems about right.

Covid is an excuse anyone “could” use, but everyone had to deal with.
 
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Freak said:
Sure that can happen as a season progresses. But we’ve had weaknesses on defense that were evident since game one that have nothing to do with morale or who the quarterback is. He specifically said that’s one of the reasons for the regression on defense and I don’t buy it. Two and a half games ago we had an eight game winning streak, were ahead of Georgia at halftime and morale seemed fine.
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It is one of the reasons IMO. I’ve seen this happen to teams at every level many times over the years. And you are correct , the morale problems have started since the fiasco at Georgia. A teams morale team can swing significantly rapidly. Whether we had morale problems prior to Georgia is irrelevant.
 
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ShoalCreekVol said:
They're not completely unrelated. If the quarterback can't maintain enough drive to occupy some time of possession, or turns the ball over a lot, does anything that puts the defense in disadvantageous positions, it definitely affects them. Especially when you factor in the scale of it happening multiple times.
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Sure it affects them. Turnovers are killers. Running hurry up puts more pressure on your defense if you can’t get first downs. Etc, etc. But to suggest the issues we’ve seen on defense this year so far is because the players have low morale because they think Mauer or Bailey should be the quarterback just isn’t logical to me at this point.
 
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UneducatedGuess said:
For those digital warriors out there who don’t understand the actual schedule and challenges Tennessee has had please read

1. Due to COVID, NO backup QB has been developed due to MANDATED quarantine from contact tracing. Blame Trump, Blame Biden, Blame China, Blame whoever. You can’t train a backup in 4 practices.

2. Our QB issue is about AWARENESS and the offense. Our mistakes are due to bad decision making. A QB questioning himself.

3. Chaneys offense DEPENDS on a QB who can AUDIBLE and make MULTIPLE reads. Maybe a young gun can do this, however, you need PRACTICE to have a playbook deeper than your wristband.

I GUARANTEE QB change happening for Arkansas UNLESS COVID/HEALTH issues.

BOOK IT

Flame away
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One little problem with your explanation. Missouri brings in their back up QB, and rolls on, and are now winning. LSU started their back up, and beat USCjr. UK's back up comes in, and plays decent. UGA's back up comes in, game 1, and leads them to victory.
So you see, it looks like CJP and CJC put all of their eggs in the JG basket, and JG is a basket-case.
 
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Freak said:
Sure it affects them. Turnovers are killers. Running hurry up puts more pressure on your defense if you can’t get first downs. Etc, etc. But to suggest the issues we’ve seen on defense this year so far is because the players have low morale because they think Mauer or Bailey should be the quarterback just isn’t logical to me at this point.
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It’s a factor the last two or three games. Someone remarked they observed Henry T dogging it on a play yesterday. If that is true and we have morale issues , the hole dug by our offense and added pressure it places on the defense certainly can hurt morale.
 
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ABINGDON VOL FAN said:
I didn’t say it was the only issue but it certainly is factoring into the performance now. My phrasing in the prior post was “it’s one of the reasons”. It has also been mentioned by others on VN so my opinion is not unique.
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I didn’t say it was unique. And “certain” is a strong word to use when guessing the morale of others. Our secondary coverage has been a mess all year. We don’t tackle well. Our linebackers look lost at times. We haven’t gotten any pressure upfront and we just fired a defensive line coach. Those issues have been around all year and are certainly magnified by playing against two top five teams. I’m not buying into “they’re not in the JG camp” is affecting our defensive production in any meaningful way up until this point.
 
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Freak said:
Sure it affects them. Turnovers are killers. Running hurry up puts more pressure on your defense if you can’t get first downs. Etc, etc. But to suggest the issues we’ve seen on defense this year so far is because the players have low morale because they think Mauer or Bailey should be the quarterback just isn’t logical to me at this point.
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I hear you. It's been about 25 years since I've been inside the mind of a college age man, haha, so I really don't know what they might be thinking. But it does seem logical to me that over time QB issues would drag down the morale on a curve. frankly, I think any unresolved issue that's allowed to go on over time without being corrected would affect morale increasingly as the season goes on. Including how our defensive shortcomings can affect the offense as well.
 
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ABINGDON VOL FAN said:
It is one of the reasons IMO. I’ve seen this happen to teams at every level many times over the years. And you are correct , the morale problems have started since the fiasco at Georgia. A teams morale team can swing significantly rapidly. Whether we had morale problems prior to Georgia is irrelevant.
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It’s not irrelevant when we’re looking at issues the defense had long before alleged morale problems.
 
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Freak said:
I didn’t say it was unique. And “certain” is a strong word to use when guessing the morale of others. Our secondary coverage has been a mess all year. We don’t tackle well. Our linebackers look lost at times. We haven’t gotten any pressure upfront and we just fired a defensive line coach. Those issues have been around all year and are certainly magnified by playing against two top five teams. I’m not buying into “they’re not in the JG camp” is affecting our defensive production in any meaningful way up until this point.
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I agree with the shortcomings you mentioned. I now believe the offensive shortcomings are amplifying the problems on the defensive side of the ball. It is . just my opinion, everyone has varying opinions.
 
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ABINGDON VOL FAN said:
It’s a factor the last two or three games. Someone remarked they observed Henry T dogging it on a play yesterday. If that is true and we have morale issues, the hole dug by our offense and added pressure it places in the defense certainly can hurt morale.
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So you’re suggesting HT took a play off because JG is quarterback?
 
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Freak said:
It’s not irrelevant when we’re looking at issues the defense had long before alleged morale problems.
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The defensive performance has regressed significantly after the Missouri game. I attribute the regression to the fact we are losing the TOP battle in the Georgia and Kentucky games. I do not know what TOP was yesterday. The defense is getting tired which exacerbates the defensive issues we have discussed previously. This is likely affecting morale with the D even though I’m not in the locker room to observe directly. I believe Henry T’s Tweets are a red flag. Again opinions vary. No one has a crystal ball about what will happen in the next few weeks.
 
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ABINGDON VOL FAN said:
I agree with the shortcomings you mentioned. I now believe the offensive shortcomings are amplifying the problems on the defensive side of the ball. It is . just my opinion, everyone has varying opinions.
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Offensive shortcomings are affecting the defense? Absolutely. That I can agree with.

Your original post, in responding to a post saying this team has more issues than just quarterback, said the quarterback situation has destroyed the morale of the team and is why our defense is regressing. I don't buy that as I explained before.
 
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Freak said:
Offensive shortcomings are affecting the defense? Absolutely. That I can agree with.

Your original post, in responding to a post saying this team has more issues than just quarterback, said the quarterback situation has destroyed the morale of the team and is why our defense is regressing. I don't buy that as I explained before.
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Fair enough. I see signs of it.
 
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ABINGDON VOL FAN said:
The defensive performance has regressed significantly after the Missouri game. I attribute the regression to the fact we are losing the TOP battle in the Georgia and Kentucky games. I do not know what TOP was yesterday. The defense is getting tired which exacerbates the defensive issues we have discussed previously. This is likely affecting morale with the D even though I’m not in the locker room to observe directly. I believe Henry T’s Tweets are a red flag. Again opinions vary. No one has a crystal ball about what will happen in the next few weeks.
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The defense probably regressed because we played two top five teams. Don't you think? It's not like we didn't see the issues against S. Carolina and Missouri. It just didn't cost us the games.

We didn't win time of possession against Missouri or South Carolina, either. Again, I'm not arguing that miserable offense hasn't cost us, I'm just not willing to attribute many of the obvious issues we see on the defensive side of the ball to morale issues over who the quarterback is.
 
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ABINGDON VOL FAN said:
Fair enough. I see signs of it.
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I didn't feel like our staff coached to win yesterday, and that's one of the most frustrating things.

In reality, we're only one game behind where I hoped we'd be, regardless of how bad we looked the last three weeks. We have two weeks to correct the issues and to get things back on track. I still think it can be done.
 
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