Multiple Players Test Positive

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Vol Tradition said:
All of you all who want to pass this off as not important have zero respect for vulnerable populations. More people testing positive is bad news for those who test positive and horrible news for the vulnerable. Stop being dismissive whiny babies and show that you care about someone other than yourself. You know why Europe is not as worried about it anymore? Because they have listened to their scientists and not acted like conspiratorial idiots. Now they have fewer people testing positive because they have generally been sensible and not arrogant.
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"Two months from the change of guidance on masks, the United Kingdom still has among the lowest mask-wearing levels in the world. Less than two-fifths (38%) of Brits are wearing a face mask when in public, according to YouGov. This compares unfavourably to the United States (74%), Italy (84%) Spain (88%), or Singapore (90%) who reached majority mask wearing by at least April. These countries all began encouraging mask-wearing much earlier."

The mask fiasco shows the dangers of a 'noble lie' - CapX

I don't think it's as simple as "wear masks, get sports" as this would seem to indicate.
 
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kcvols1 said:
FWIW, I just signed my kids up for virtual in Forsyth. Not because I’m afraid of them getting coronavirus, but because I don’t trust the county to provide consistency in face to face education this fall. Of course, I have the luxury of working part time from home.
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As long as they don't require my kids to wear a mask they will be in school. I figure that the class sizes will be smaller and the families that think the sky is falling won't be there to dilute. Maybe something to consider.
 
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ABINGDON VOL FAN said:
Safe as in what can be controlled by the university or employer. The cargo plane analogy is silly, juvenile, simple minded and obviously not In the scope of what I was talking about. How old are you, pre-teenager?
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Obviously risk can never be eliminated. If the employer follows best practices they have done what they can reasonably be expected to do.
 
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MSME Vol said:
Agreed. As terrible as it is for people to fall ill, the silver lining might be that they catch it now while they can recover in plenty of time for the season and without having to be compromised to the flu at the same time.
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The problem is we don't know the long term effects. How would a young person like to have permanent organ damage (Lungs, Kidneys, etc). Nobody knows!!!
 
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sechamp2012 said:
There is about a 0 chance a healthy alpha male athlete is going to die from this, get either assyptomatic or not and get over it in as little as 3 days race car driver Jimmy Johnson and the long will be around 14 days. BUT
The news media will run it on tickers and headlines as "Vols now have 85 cases" never subtracting the cured non active cases. That's how you roll when you're spreading Fear Porn.
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"About a 0 chance a healthy alpha male dies from this . . .". Could you cite me to the epidemiological study showing this? And what happens if an athlete catches this and survives but with a compromised respiratory system?

Am just amazed how easily everyone disposes of the concerns regarding the heath risks to the players.

I can tell you one player who shouldn't get anywhere near the playing field until there's a vaccine, that's Trey Smith.
 
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cHiZzLeVOL said:
Guess the world should just stop..... shut all the factories down, etc. everything..... lol that’s basically what you are arguing. You cannot cater to everyone’s personal needs period all you can do is provide a better/safer environment for them and individuals choose themselves if they want to work/play/go to school/whatever. Life has to go on. Plain and simple.
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Just telling what is going to happen. I’m against shutting everything down again
 
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cHiZzLeVOL said:
Guess the world should just stop..... shut all the factories down, etc. everything..... lol that’s basically what you are arguing. You cannot cater to everyone’s personal needs period all you can do is provide a better/safer environment for them and individuals choose themselves if they want to work/play/go to school/whatever. Life has to go on. Plain and simple.
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You probably would have a different opinion if you were responsible for a decision which could cost your business tens of millions of dollars from lawsuits, frivolous or not.
 
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rockytop989 said:
So can the flu and common cold. Never known that to cancel a season.
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Sorry but it has been proven this virus is not comparable to the flu regarding the ease of spread and the sheet number of deaths. I’m not talking about percentages of deaths.
 
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Big Ugly Vol said:
I have a friend that has had this Virus. He had no previous health issues. His lungs are so damaged he’s not sure if he’s going to be on oxygen for the rest of his life or not. This may or not be over played, but this thing is real. He’s also a lifelong card carrying conservative, so no politics involved. Very sad that I would even have to say that, but that’s the world we live in.
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It’s definitely an enigma. Most people will be fine, but there are those that get it bad suffer severely.
 
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Vol Tradition said:
All of you all who want to pass this off as not important have zero respect for vulnerable populations. More people testing positive is bad news for those who test positive and horrible news for the vulnerable. Stop being dismissive whiny babies and show that you care about someone other than yourself. You know why Europe is not as worried about it anymore? Because they have listened to their scientists and not acted like conspiratorial idiots. Now they have fewer people testing positive because they have generally been sensible and not arrogant.
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CA has never really emerged from lock down and they have as many cases as TX. Anyone who understands how pandemics work can see this one is not acting like a global pandemic in any way. We bash some states for "re-opening too soon" but Italy has re-opened in a lot of ways and they are not seeing a big new surge in cases. Something very strange about that.
 
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ABINGDON VOL FAN said:
Sorry but it has been proven this virus is not comparable to the flu regarding the ease of spread and the sheet number of deaths. I’m not talking about percentages of deaths.
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You are correct, science tells us the flu is far more dangerous in this age group. One can accept that without being in the "fake news" or "it's all just politics" group.
 
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rockytop989 said:
Oh look...death rate is still continuing to drop. States are reporting false numbers. CDC and Fauci keep going back and forth. All fake news. Time to move on folks. You don’t see Europe freaking out any more. They are smarter than I previously thought.
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Thats because they took it seriously and listened to scientists like Facui....
 
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PlanetVolunteer said:
I cannot see the point anymore.

If there are around 50 to 60 thousand a day testinf positive then there are still tens of thousands to go that have it already that dont know it, and what are they doing? Spreading it.

There's no way we could possibly stop the spread at this point. I doubt people will comply to another lockdown.

Time to do what Sweden has done, which we basically have been doing, and just worry about the vulnerable.

Why do people act like not playing football is saving people from the virus? The players are already getting it on their own outside of the team. If they don't play in the fall its not going to save any of them from getting it then, if its as bad as it is now. It seems to me that its passing through everybody right now.
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The Sweden experiment has failed, immunity doesn't last long enough to prevent spread. They have a higher death rate per capita than we do, the same here would mean 3 million plus dead
 
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Volatility said:
I see your point, but we have to consider the risk of one CFB player dying as a result of covid. If a player dies, I imagine the NCAA would be sued along with the universities to hell and back.
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Very likely.... But you must remember, as some lawyer will someday sue on behalf of the cause or lack there of of motherhood.....
Surely at some point judges will start "throwing out frivolous lawsuits". Oh wait! Judges are lawyers, oh well, so much for a common sense approach.
 
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there is data out there that supports healthy under 30 being
Am just amazed how easily everyone disposes of the concerns regarding the heath risks to the players.

I can tell you one player who shouldn't get anywhere near the playing field until there's a vaccine, that's Trey Smith.
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Trey Smith should quit and get ready for NFL there will be no vaccine until 2021. Then they are not 100% effective so maybe he should just give it up altogether. Any one that has a health issue should not play this year whether it be high blood or diabetes Etc...
 
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I looked at my son's schedule at UTK for the fall. He has a full load of classes but only ONE class a week is not online. He has one class on campus on Fri morning and that is it.
Caution is important but living a normal life is also. I say we keep on living and take caution when we need to take caution.
 
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Sackett said:
I looked at my son's schedule at UTK for the fall. He has a full load of classes but only ONE class a week is not online. He has one class on campus on Fri morning and that is it.
Caution is important but living a normal life is also. I say we keep on living and take caution when we need to take caution.
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Mine is at MSU. They are supposed to determine tomorrow if all classes are going online. Right now all of his are still slated in the classroom while several of his friends have some, or all, online already. Between finishing the spring and taking some online courses over the summer, he'll withdraw for the fall if his go online because they suck. I spoke with the Dean's office on Tuesday hoping to get some clarity, and they, understandably don't have a lot. Said she understood completely why we'd opt out of out-of-state tuition and dorm fees if he won't be in a classroom. Maybe this will be the impetus to get him to Knoxville. He's always, and remains, a Vol, but he had a ton of friends go to MSU and liked the wildlife and biology departments.
 
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VolsdeepVFL said:
The Sweden experiment has failed, immunity doesn't last long enough to prevent spread. They have a higher death rate per capita than we do, the same here would mean 3 million plus dead
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How has it failed? They are essentially reporting zero deaths daily now.

They have about 125 deaths per million more than us. If we equal that number, we'd be around 200,000 total deaths.
 
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allvol123 said:
How has it failed? They are essentially reporting zero deaths daily now.

They have about 125 deaths per million more than us. If we equal that number, we'd be around 200,000 total deaths.
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The true measure will be at the end of the pandemic who had the best outcome. We are just in the middle of it all. Reduced deaths forward will be the deciding numbers for the final result. I truly think everyone is still half way guessing at this point.
 
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Redleg68 said:
The true measure will be at the end of the pandemic who had the best outcome. We are just in the middle of it all. Reduced deaths forward will be the deciding numbers for the final result. I truly think everyone is still half way guessing at this point.
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I dont disagree with you. The comparisons many make are as if some finish line has been reached.

For some that might be true, but not all.
 
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