Mike Hamilton is a genius - The Debate (merged)

#127
#127
How can you condemn a coach before he even gets a chance? Everyone needs to chill out. In my opinion, Cutcliffe would have been the worst possible choice, and for a while there, I was devastated that it looked like it was happening. I think this will turn out to be a good hire. Just give the guy a chance. As far as recruiting, we will get a good indicator of his abilities in a few weeks.
 
#128
#128
I think it was very telling in the presser yesterday when Dooley said he received the text from Hamilton gauging interest. This is essentially how the last hire came about. Tennessee has a lot of great things to offer including tradition, facilities, venue, and lots of money. There is no reason Mike Hamilton and University should have to settle or rush a hire like this. Does anyone doubt that Kippy could have held the team together? I really question the efforts put into the search at this point. Memphis radio made a good point yesterday in comparing Hamilton to Michael Scott on the "Office" trying to sell paper...."Would you like some paper? No...ok, thanks." Same here. If UT wants a coach,whoever it might be, there should be nothing stopping it from getting "The Guy". That said, maybe Dooley works out to be the best since Neyland, but the process Hamilton used to acquire him has been less than impressive and really brings to light Hamilton's inept ability to sell this great University.
 
#129
#129
Vercingetorix said:
I would rather him swing for the fences and miss than settle for the lazy, safe Cutcliffe hire. Hamilton knows his job is on the line and he still went for the high risk/high reward move again after whiffing on the last one. Gotta admire that.

This guy is a longshot, no dobut. But I would rather try three or four high upside guys in a row than just settle in with somebody safe with a 9 or 10 win season.
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Better than swinging for the feces hitting it like our last coach.
 
#130
#130
Somewhere, PF is awaiting DD's demise so he can convince PMan to "barry sanders" it and be his HC. What will be interesting is the '14-'15...who will be dawning the blood+yellow, and who will be wearing the O + W?????

Lol jus playing....feels good to be able to smile + eat. LMAO..
In all seriousness, circle FEB 3rd. First progress report to follow.
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#131
#131
Waaaawaaawaaa...whatever...he's now our coach and he can at least look into a camera and a room full of people and speak intelligently and clearly without all the fidgeting, mumbling and stupid blunders. This won't be quite the circus act the last group was but it will be a much better fit. Here's hoping for great success for Dooley, his staff and Tennessee football!!!
 
#132
#132
HM would not make a pimple on a genius's butt
 
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#133
#133
Remains to be seen how well this guy does. He is a no name, and a big gamble.

Could be great, odds are it won't be.

There aren't too many Sabans and Meyers and Mack Browns to choose from.

Look at Notre Dame. They haven't been great since, gasp, Lou Holtz.

Nebraska hasn't been great since, gasp, Tom Osborne.

It may take a long long time before we do well again. Just a reality that I am hoping against.

I'll support the Vols through thick and thin!

Go Vols
 
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zjcvols said:
exactly. Just because he talks southern and seems like a genuine guy doesn't cover up the fact he is a 17-20 coach in an easy conference and just went 4-8.
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Don't get me wrong, I like and support Dooley, but this was not a genius move by Hamilton in my view.
 
#135
#135
I think it is a very good hire. Under these circumstances I think Hammy did a great job.... the Cut thing scared the heck out of me.....shewwwwww :compute:
 
#136
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MDBJJC said:
Remains to be seen how well this guy does. He is a no name, and a big gamble.

Could be great, odds are it won't be.

There aren't too many Sabans and Meyers and Mack Browns to choose from.

Look at Notre Dame. They haven't been great since, gasp, Lou Holtz.

Nebraska hasn't been great since, gasp, Tom Osborne.

It may take a long long time before we do well again. Just a reality that I am hoping against.

I'll support the Vols through thick and thin!

Go Vols
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AS I said, and agree he is a NOBODY...there is no sain bluechip out there would turn down a well known coach for this guy and you all will see, we will be back in this darn forum when the powers that be says ENOUGH...sayin the same ole crap yada, yada, yada...BASELINE is no recruiting, no talent, no matter how good the coach or staff is, you are only as good as the talent on the team. This guy has no chance in recruiting in this conference, and you all know it, but having a positive attitude makes you feel better then sleep well. In this league you better have talent ACROSS the board or loose, just ask KY, or Vanderbilt, etc...People Football is an ever evolving game and if you are not on top of the game then you will suck hind tit...
As I have always said, take down my handle and give me crap if I am wrong...I am a man I can take it, and will be glad to eat crow...but if you think we will have a great team....then go ahead prepare a list for us all to sign for Mike's resignation...trust me...you will need it...this is a band aid hire and the proof is in the puddin...
Are you all gonna say give him 3 years and we will see, well that will be 3 years wasted...and like I said, take my handle cause I will be takin yours, and when TN is lookin for another HC, be a man and take what I spew, it's only fair...personally I don’t think he will last that long...Prediction for 2010 3 and 9 don’t believe me look at the schedule...

If this is the best Mike Hamilton can do, then are you all just gonna post CRAP, like my CRAP...and do nothing about it, you better bet your bottom dollar I will be calling the university and I have a sneaking suspicion, I will not be alone...
 
#137
#137
ahahahahah please call the university. You will be on hold for a minute and then they will release your tickets you get next to the band for your 500 dollar annual donation...
 
#138
#138
Bad hire, but ill give him one year even if we don't win many games
next year but show promise. If we don't finish in the top 5 to 10 in recruiting next year I'm done untill they hire a new coach. You have to have the players if we are going to turn this around.
 
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#139
#139
Don't think I would say "genius" but with knowing his job is on the line and yet another "risky" hire, I respect that:salute:. Hopefully this one works out better for us than the last one. GO VOLS.
 
#140
#140
It doesn't matter if Dooley wins zero or a dozen national championships. Mike Hamilton is a fool. It has nothing to do with Dooley. Mike "Summer's Eve" Hamilton must be fired.
 
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Vercingetorix said:
I would rather him swing for the fences and miss than settle for the lazy, safe Cutcliffe hire. Hamilton knows his job is on the line and he still went for the high risk/high reward move again after whiffing on the last one. Gotta admire that.

This guy is a longshot, no dobut. But I would rather try three or four high upside guys in a row than just settle in with somebody safe with a 9 or 10 win season.
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this was the safe move. For all of the OP's reasons.
 
#146
#146
walt2007 said:
Hamilton is a moron and should be fired posthaste without further adieu. I'm sure Dooley is a great guy; he may one day be a great HC. But he is NOT the caliber of coach we should have gotten. A top-ten program does not settle for someone from La Tech, even in a three-day search. I read another thread on here today talking about how a year ago Hamilton was quoted (I remember this) during the search that led to El Pricko saying that Tennessee is not as desirable of a job as a lot of the fans seem to think it is. That comment alone should have been enough to get him fired, then and there.

I said when Kiffin was hired that Hamilton had with the idiot's hiring sent a message that football was no longer a priority at this school. Then once jerkboy hired the all-star staff, I was on board and cheering him on; when they landed the top-ten class, I was drinking the kool-aid. Now I can see not that Hamilton had sent the message that football is unimportant, but rather the message that he's a blundering, incompetent, inept, hapless boob who couldn't sell a space heater to an Eskimo. FIRE HIM NOW. Don't even wait a day.

When Bama was getting rebuffed left and right three years ago, they dug in their heels, opened up the bank account and got the best college coach in the country. Muschamp, by all accounts, seriously considered us; who is it on but Hamilton that he couldn't get it done? It really takes a complete bozo to not be able to sell someone who's never been a HC, and doesn't know how long he may have to wait, and is going to have his salary nearly tripled immediately, and shows interest in the job - and yet Hamilton couldn't close him. Did Saban call Bama like Kiffin called 'SC? No. He insisted, emphatically, that he would not be the coach there. But their AD didn't take no for an answer - he got it done. A DC who's ALREADY EXPRESSED INTEREST tells our AD he's not sure, and our AD wipes his tears away and hops on a plane to go collect the next rejection.

Hamilton IS AN INCOMPETENT BUFFOON. FIRE HIM NOW.
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These are all good points. How do you go from firing Fulmer for going 5-7, and hiring La Tech's coach who goes 4-8?
 
#147
#147
Don't get me wrong - I have nothing but positive impressions of Dooley from his press conference, and his long association with Saban...And I will certainly support him now that he's the coach (though that support does not mean five years to get anything done). I have nothing whatsoever against Dooley, in any way, and wish him fantastic success.

It just seems blatantly obvious to me that Hamilton sold us short, grossly so, and was grossly incompetent in the performance of his duties in this hiring. We are not a training-wheels program, three weeks before NSD or any other time. How many other programs in the country regularly sell out a 107,000 seat stadium? How many other programs in the country have our financial resources? How many other programs in the country have as many players currently in the NFL, even after the last few years with the mess Fulmer made? Only a couple days ago I heard one of the ESPN guys matter-of-factly proclaiming we are still a top-ten program as though no one would ever suggest otherwise - and you know what? Not a single one of the other guys argued with him or even missed a beat. If I remember correctly it was one of the guys on that Around the Horn thing where four of them debate - and not one of the other four uttered a peep of argument that we're not top-ten; they all agreed as though it were an obvious truth.

Top-ten programs with budgets like ours do not have to settle for someone unproven. To do so is not just incompetent, it's negligent and careless.

I hope Dooley exceeds all of our wildest hopes and leads us to a NC in February 2012. But that doesn't change the fact we should be celebrating right now because we hired away Patterson from TCU, or Muschamp from Texas, or Gruden from commentating, because a better AD would have done just that.
 
#148
#148
oklavol said:
These are all good points. How do you go from firing Fulmer for going 5-7, and hiring La Tech's coach who goes 4-8?
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Good question. Rather than hire an unproven, give Kippy a chance. He may not be the right choice either, but what's the diff? It seems MH treated him rather shabbily. I really hate that.
 
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