Decompressing From The End Of The UT Game...

They would take Mike Anderson (as a politically correct hire) before another "outsider" is considered.

When has being an "insider" ever merited consideration for the UK job? Tubby was annointed by Pitino, true, but that hardly makes him UK family. Pitino had no ties. Sutton had no ties. Hall did play a year of JV ball in Lexington before transferring to Sewanee (he did later receive a UK degree.) Rupp was a Kansas guy. For better or worse, I really don't think "insider" or "outsider" has ever been a factor in one of the Wildcat's hires.
 
When has being an "insider" ever merited consideration for the UK job? Tubby was annointed by Pitino, true, but that hardly makes him UK family. Pitino had no ties. Sutton had no ties. Hall did play a year of JV ball in Lexington before transferring to Sewanee (he did later receive a UK degree.) Rupp was a Kansas guy. For better or worse, I really don't think "insider" or "outsider" has ever been a factor in one of the Wildcat's hires.
Hall was also an assistant under Rupp for a long, long time before ascending to the throne. Pitino wasn't UK's first choice. He only got the job after Pat Riley declined to leave the NBA and PJ Carlesimo and Lute Olson asked for too much money. Rupp essentially started the program, so I wouldn't count his hiring as being relevant to the discussion as to whether or not UK looks to previous ties as a factor in hiring. Also, when Sutton was hired, what coach with UK ties had the resume to merit taking over the program?
 
When has being an "insider" ever merited consideration for the UK job? Tubby was annointed by Pitino, true, but that hardly makes him UK family. Pitino had no ties. Sutton had no ties. Hall did play a year of JV ball in Lexington before transferring to Sewanee (he did later receive a UK degree.) Rupp was a Kansas guy. For better or worse, I really don't think "insider" or "outsider" has ever been a factor in one of the Wildcat's hires.

I only meant that former players, especially Ford, have somewhat of an inside advantage. Thank you hat for saving my bacon.
 
some thoughts.
1. A win UT had to have. A loss tonight would have meant an NIT appearance.

Just saw an interesting fact in today's newspaper. No "Power Conference" team with an RPI lower than 40 has ever been left out of the NCAA tournament since it went to 64 teams. Cincinnati was left out last season with an RPI of 40. The Vols were 15 prior to the Alabama game and are currently 14 in the RPI rankings.
 
Just saw an interesting fact in today's newspaper. No "Power Conference" team with an RPI lower than 40 has ever been left out of the NCAA tournament since it went to 64 teams. Cincinnati was left out last season with an RPI of 40. The Vols were 15 prior to the Alabama game and are currently 14 in the RPI rankings.
Still, I wouldn't want to drop a sub500 conference record on the table to test the notion...
 
Also, when Sutton was hired, what coach with UK ties had the resume to merit taking over the program?

I do not believe any do now, either. Of course, the job isn't open now, either.

I only meant that former players, especially Ford, have somewhat of an inside advantage. Thank you hat for saving my bacon.

It will probably get them an interview. I wouldn't overestimate Ford's influence in the bluegrass; his father was once very influential in highschool basketball; I believe some events in Travis' history since leaving UK might work against him more than any goodwill he might have earned by donning the blue will work for him. He is certainly persona non grata to some very influential state personalities who have direct ties to the university.
 
I do not believe any do now, either. Of course, the job isn't open now, either.



It will probably get them an interview. I wouldn't overestimate Ford's influence in the bluegrass; his father was once very influential in highschool basketball; I believe some events in Travis' history since leaving UK might work against him more than any goodwill he might have earned by donning the blue will work for him. He is certainly persona non grata to some very influential state personalities who have direct ties to the university.

I do understand that he rubbed many the wrong way, and that most of that was in Terry Bowden style. He is still a king in Lex though.
 
I do not believe any do now, either. Of course, the job isn't open now, either.



It will probably get them an interview. I wouldn't overestimate Ford's influence in the bluegrass; his father was once very influential in highschool basketball; I believe some events in Travis' history since leaving UK might work against him more than any goodwill he might have earned by donning the blue will work for him. He is certainly persona non grata to some very influential state personalities who have direct ties to the university.
Ford's father is a first class slimeball. I still wish Bob Knight could have gotten his hands on the elder Ford for tampering with Lawrence Funderburke when he was at IU.
 
Just saw an interesting fact in today's newspaper. No "Power Conference" team with an RPI lower than 40 has ever been left out of the NCAA tournament since it went to 64 teams. Cincinnati was left out last season with an RPI of 40. The Vols were 15 prior to the Alabama game and are currently 14 in the RPI rankings.

Good point. I haven't heard a convincing arguement as to why the the selection committee will leave UT out. Most projections have UT seeded higher then a couple of other SEC schools.
 
Just saw an interesting fact in today's newspaper. No "Power Conference" team with an RPI lower than 40 has ever been left out of the NCAA tournament since it went to 64 teams. Cincinnati was left out last season with an RPI of 40. The Vols were 15 prior to the Alabama game and are currently 14 in the RPI rankings.
true, but the lack of road wins and the possiblity of a sub .500 conf. record could be enough to put them on the bubble...esp. considering that they still have Ark, GA, and FL to play after the SC and Bama games.

i figured on winning the SC game and possibly losing the Bama game...so from that standpoint, the Bama game was a must win. didn't lose anything, didn't really gain anything....the SC loss in my opinion was a bad one. it got canceled out with a good win vs. Bama.

the vols resume is pretty solid. close it out with wins over the teams you're supposed to beat in GA and ARK hopefully and a loss to UF won't kill you. the RPI could drop real quick if losses start to mount.
 
Ford's father is a first class slimeball. I still wish Bob Knight could have gotten his hands on the elder Ford for tampering with Lawrence Funderburke when he was at IU.


I don't know the Funderburke situation, but I have known Eddie since the late '80s. Whatever he did would not surprise me much.
 
I can't recall anything as cliche as debasing lawyers. You should bring something stronger if you want to get at him. I'm sure he's grown immune to that kind of crap by now.
I'm not debasing attorneys at all, simply the job. Even at the Milbank Tweed's of the world, it's an hourly gig. I spent several years at a Wall Street firm measuring our worth in the league tables. That was the right side of the boardroom equation. We got paid based upon % of transaction value. We hired Millbank to read all of the exciting corporate charters and resolutions, contract minutiae, poison pill docs and write red herrings. As an advisor, they billed us on an HOURLY basis. That is atrocious. At the height of the profession, working on multi billion dollar transactions and they were billing hourly. The brightest of that bunch often left their side of the deal and joined the wire houses, if they weren't mathematically challenged (and a lot were), and bought new boats soon thereafter. Attorneys in the boardroom are certainly in heady company, but are still billing at an hourly rate and limited by the hours in the day. The guy that takes care of my yard bills me in the same manner. He'd be better off if he could fix the price and work faster to earn his money more quickly and move on (become more efficient). However, I won't allow it. If he wants a fixed fee, he'll have to find other clients because I can find another lawn guy to do it my way. The legal profession is the same way, just with better educated people in Hickey-Freeman and Ferragamos living in the god forsaken metropolis. Clients are not about to allow attorneys to work on a fixed fee basis, unless it's ambulance chasers or structured settlement types who prey on imbeciles. They can hire more people and bill them out at a spread, but so can the lawn guy.

Seems to me that if I'm the best in my profession or become more efficient, I could translate that into more income or more leisure time. Not so in the legal world. Still have to bill the client hourly and clients often distrust a new attorney more than one they've grown accustomed to ignoring. Hence, senior guys often have to spend inordinate amounts of time with established clients to make any money. That's miserable. As mentioned above, partners can make more money by hiring more attorneys, but there's more management headache and personnel issues to deal with, plus the need to find more clients to feed the larger beast. Vicious cycle.

The only part of the profession that I want any part of is to pay them their $200 per hour to painstakingly read garbage that I would never consider poring through for that kind of money. There are great attorneys in the world and I call a lot of them friends, but I would never consider trading jobs with them.

There, not denigrating the people nor the profession because we need attorneys. Just saying the job sucks.
 
No. I've been breaking one of my New Year's resolutions. I promised myself I wouldn't enter into debates with people whose IQ falls below the daily average high temperature in Dade County. I've failed miserably at that today, but I'm going to try and get back to adhering immediately.
That's right. All of the really high IQ people, such as yourself, are always ready to brag about it. It's a hallmark that goes with the territory. More surefire indicators of genius: go to the local school by default, blow the LSATs away so you can "get in" at UT Law, then move on to spend the remainder of their days lurking on bboards spouting intimate knowledge coaching and sports without ever having been there. It's probably the most typical of MENSA stories. I'm ashamed to have suggested that you could ever have been incorrect or that I might not actually need psychiatric help because I do not agree with the legendary VolNation poster on something.
 
With Frank Broyles retiring, Mike Anderson might actually get a legitimate interview with an SEC school now.
I like Mike Anderson, but Broyles would have been a lunatic for hiring him as a HC at the time. Anderson was squarely in Nolan's corner, even at Nolan's most ridiculous. Frank watched the recruiting effort at ARK absolutely fall off of the map after Nolan's NC and Anderson was, along with Nolan, largely responsible for recruiting. Anderson still hasn't shown any real ability to recruit. His calling card is a rehashed version of 40 minutes of hell, which the fans utterly enjoy.
 
That's right. All of the really high IQ people, such as yourself, are always ready to brag about it. It's a hallmark that goes with the territory. More surefire indicators of genius: go to the local school by default, blow the LSATs away so you can "get in" at UT Law, then move on to spend the remainder of their days lurking on bboards spouting intimate knowledge coaching and sports without ever having been there. It's probably the most typical of MENSA stories. I'm ashamed to have suggested that you could ever have been incorrect or that I might not actually need psychiatric help because I do not agree with the legendary VolNation poster on something.
Coming from someone who did so well on Wall Street they ended up in Arkansas, I'll consider the source and move on.
 
I like Mike Anderson, but Broyles would have been a lunatic for hiring him as a HC at the time. Anderson was squarely in Nolan's corner, even at Nolan's most ridiculous. Frank watched the recruiting effort at ARK absolutely fall off of the map after Nolan's NC and Anderson was, along with Nolan, largely responsible for recruiting. Anderson still hasn't shown any real ability to recruit. His calling card is a rehashed version of 40 minutes of hell, which the fans utterly enjoy.
I was actually referring to Broyles killing Anderson's chances of getting the Auburn job when Lebo was hired. But, you probably already figured that out, after you instructed Cantor Fitzgerald on how the firm should position itself in the international markets.
 
Coming from someone who did so well on Wall Street they ended up in Arkansas, I'll consider the source and move on.
If you knew any of the story, you'd move here in a heartbeat. Oh, I forget - it's great to be you and working for the man in Miami land.
 
If you knew any of the story, you'd move here in a heartbeat. Oh, I forget - it's great to be you and working for the man in Miami land.
You continue to yammer on about my employment situation, which you know absolutely nothing about. Then again, that's what you're good at. Further, I wouldn't care if someone offered me $500K a year and 100 virgins, I wouldn't live in Fayettenam.
 
I was actually referring to Broyles killing Anderson's chances of getting the Auburn job when Lebo was hired. But, you probably already figured that out, after you instructed Cantor Fitzgerald on how the firm should position itself in the international markets.
No, we rarely used CF and couldn't care less about their firm vis a vis the international arena.

Can still unequivocally tell you that the pay cut I'd take to be a partner there or at any firm would never entice me to give up my gig. This isn't that hard. I think attorneys are the highly paid equivalent to lawn personnel. I don't want to be that, nor tied to the clock, nor wear another tie to work. Is that so hard to get your genius mind around? I live in an area with more billionaires per capita that anywhere in the world and you're arguing that there's no reason to be here. I'm guessing they have options and they ain't about to choose the cesspool you live in. I'm inclined to agree.
 
No, we rarely used CF and couldn't care less about their firm vis a vis the international arena.

Can still unequivocally tell you that the pay cut I'd take to be a partner there or at any firm would never entice me to give up my gig. This isn't that hard. I think attorneys are the highly paid equivalent to lawn personnel. I don't want to be that, nor tied to the clock, nor wear another tie to work. Is that so hard to get your genius mind around? I live in an area with more billionaires per capita that anywhere in the world and you're arguing that there's no reason to be here. I'm guessing they have options and they ain't about to choose the cesspool you live in. I'm inclined to agree.
I haven't billed anyone hourly in probably five years, so your entire premise is skewed. I also couldn't care how many Wal Mart heirs live in your area, the last time I checked it's still Arkansas. Polish the turd all you want, you still live in Fayettenam.
 
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I haven't billed anyone hourly in probably five years, so your entire premise is skewed. I also couldn't care how many Wal Mart heirs live in your area, the last time I checked it's still Arkansas. Polish the turd all you want, you still live in Fayettenam.
 
I haven't billed anyone hourly in probably five years, so your entire premise is skewed. I also couldn't care how many Wal Mart heirs live in your area, the last time I checked it's still Arkansas. Polish the turd all you want, you still live in Fayettenam.
You haven't PERSONALLY billed anyone hourly. You tossed out your boardroom experience and my lack of shoes to make yourself feel better. I've spent a lot of time with attorneys in board rooms and they were hourly types. The corporate advisor wasn't an hourly type, but they were always the lowest paid and most ignored in the process. If you'll tell me about the law firm that made more than the financial advisor in any transaction, I'd love to hear about it.

The Wal-Mart Heirs only make up about half of the billionaires in the, but they sure help make it a better place. Some of the others happen to partner with me in several deals, and I find that very rewarding in many ways.

Finally, your denigrating NWA in no way changes the hole you live in. If you're trying to feel better about it by belittling Fayetteville, by all means feel free. It won't bother me if you feel good about who and where you are. I'm just saying that I'd wanna cry if I were you where you are. It's not complicated-I think your gig sucks, whether you're the best in the world at it and make respectable money (for an attorney).
 
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