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BruinVol said:
Sure everyone misses but when the plan is to miss as much as some of these coaches plan for that's wrong

Like I said basketball is the best sport at not recruiting kids too early but football and baseball are really bad with it. Commit kids really early before you even know how they are going to mature. Coaches need to wait longer and be more sure and that's what I mean by being more detailed
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Basketball by the sport itself is the easiest to determine an athlete’s true ability. But it’s still a guessing game. Football and baseball are infinitely harder. Especially when you have zero control over their competition
 
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volfanbill said:
Basketball by the sport itself is the easiest to determine an athlete’s true ability. But it’s still a guessing game. Football and baseball are infinitely harder. Especially when you have zero control over their competition
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Agreed and those two sports are where coaches are offering scholarships left and right. Hell run a good time at camp and you get a football over. Flash 90 on the radar gun and boom here comes the offers. Recruiting is just way too quick and that's my issue
 
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JoAllan said:
Ok ok ok so now,it is how someone is “judged”

Ok ok you can win. Students are judged solely on class room work, student athletes are judged by the same and athletes...........therefore they should be treated differently, and not be allowed to transfer even after they graduate.

I finally see your point and yes you are certainly right.
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Considering non student athlete's status of enrollment is determined in the classroom and student athletes aren't, they are not comparable.
 
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@BruinVol

How do plan to fund such an elaborate scouting system?

MLB employs a HUGE scouting system and they know most are still going to be misses. Acting like watching a kid longer than they already do will somehow result in better recruiting is just silly. Being able to look at a kid against high school talent and know his real potential is a giant guess. The overwhelming majority, especially those in major D1 programs, are looking at way more than one camp. More than one season typically.
 
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volfanbill said:
@BruinVol

How do plan to fund such an elaborate scouting system?

MLB employs a HUGE scouting system and they know most are still going to be misses. Acting like watching a kid longer than they already do will somehow result in better recruiting is just silly. Being able to look at a kid against high school talent and know his real potential is a giant guess. The overwhelming majority, especially those in major D1 programs, are looking at way more than one camp. More than one season typically.
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You know it's simple. Projecting what a 17 year old will he is much easier than what a 14-16yr old will.
 
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BruinVol said:
You know it simply. Projecting what a 17 year old will he is much easier than what a 14-16yr old will.
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It’s still a pipe dream to think there will even be a 75% success rate of guessing high school junior and senoirs’ potential.
 
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volfanbill said:
lol whatever. They pour over tape and trips to multiple games. You can make up ish to support your argument, but most of us here can see through that.
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Lol

Baseball is my wheelhouse and I can assure you many players currently committed to the Big Orange or wearing it were never seen in a game Much less over the course of a year.

As for Football many many times those players aren't seen in person. Hell attending games is very hard in football
 
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BruinVol said:
Lol

Baseball is my wheelhouse and I can assure you many players currently committed to the Big Orange or wearing it were never seen in a game Much less over the course of a year.

As for Football many many times those players aren't seen in person. Hell attending games is very hard in football
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Your “wheelhouse” is NAIA Division II baseball. Got it
 
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JMSqb11 said:
If a school (the gateway to student athlete's professional life) is making terms of the contract aka scholarship, the kid who willingly signs can't complain about the system....
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Of course they can complain, if there are no real options. Plus, you STILL aren't answering the question of why a kid should be tied down to one school for their entire time of eligibility.
 
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BruinVol said:
Because I think the recruiting process involves making a decision that last 4-5years. If a coach makes a mistake and wants out they should be penalized. If a player makes a mistake in thier choice and wants out they should as well. I am sick of the way society just moves from team to team when the least little thing doesn't suit them. Happens at all ages


I believe players should get one transfer if a Head coach leaves without penalty. That's the only exception
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People shouldn't lose the freedom to move as they see fit just because it's aggravating to watch the various switching. Things change quite a bit over the course of a year or two, much less four or five.
 
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Unimane said:
Of course they can complain, if there are no real options. Plus, you STILL aren't answering the question of why a kid should be tied down to one school for their entire time of eligibility.
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Because they made a commitment plain and simple. Schools are limited in the number of kids they take.... Pretty unfair to waste time and effort and resources on someone who isn't a long term player..... Basketball is easier to get away with because there isn't a huge gap between top level recruits and the NBA.
 
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JMSqb11 said:
Because they made a commitment plain and simple. Schools are limited in the number of kids they take.... Pretty unfair to waste time and effort and resources on someone who isn't a long term player..... Basketball is easier to get away with because there isn't a huge gap between top level recruits and the NBA.
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It's unfair to the program?!? Is this "victim mindset" you were referring or is that only valid towards 18 year old kids? Unfair, sweet Jesus.

These programs are making plenty of money on these kids, whom they don't even pay, and I'm supposed to care about all that precious time they put into it? Are you the type of person who roots for big corporations and insurance companies, too?

If you take a new job, should you be required to stay there, even if it turns out you don't like it? I mean, you are probably older and a wiser decision maker than an 18 year old, more capable of making a long term decision.
 
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JMSqb11 said:
Considering non student athlete's status of enrollment is determined in the classroom and student athletes aren't, they are not comparable.
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How is it not? They could quit the team and still remain enrolled. The athlete part does nothing to their “enrollment.”
 
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sccshortstop said:
Except pay for it!!
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Yes everyone has to pay somehow........ but staying on the team or “athletes” has nothing to do with the state of their enrollment.

Some pay with cash, some with music talent, some pay with athletic talent, but all do it just in different ways.
 
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JoAllan said:
Yes everyone has to pay somehow........ but staying on the team or “athletes” has nothing to do with the state of their enrollment.

Some pay with cash, some with music talent, some pay with athletic talent, but all do it just in different ways.
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if they are athletes that is who pays for it. most could not afford to go to a community college
 
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sccshortstop said:
if they are athletes that is who pays for it. most could not afford to go to a community college
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Yea I agreed with you. The school covers the student athletes cost. But they don’t do so just to be nice. They do it because the student athletes skills brings in revenue which covers the revenue lost by the free tuition. In fact for larger schools the revenue from football and basketball far exceeds what was given in the free schooling..........that extra is spread out to other sports and sometimes elsewhere in the school.

However none of this has anything do do with the possible new transfer rule.
 
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JMSqb11 said:
If you have the talent, there is no excuse for sitting and complaining about the NCAA being unfair. Improve your situation. Plenty of guys in the past going the Euro/Asia route and making close to a million dollars as an 18-19 year old and then going pro.....

I have no sympathy for someone who isn't willing to exhaust all scenarios to improve their situation and instead, sit home and complain.

Perfect example is Emmanuel Mudiay... Didn't want to go to college and got a million dollar contract for one year in China. After that year, he gets draft and got a 4 year / 14 million dollar rookie contract....

If your talent is good enough, you can always find a way.

Hell look at all the former Vol players who didn't make the league, but are making good money playing overseas right now for their situations.


There is always a way for kids who have the talent.
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You do realize the conversation is about grad transfers right? Not one and done NBA talents. Who was the last grad transfer to play in the NBA?
 
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#224
sccshortstop said:
Hold on dude I was only giving an opinion!!! Who is that....comfortable with that group!
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It’s ok everyone will eat thier words when Quez goes off every year against us he will make it a point to.Quez is not to be taken lightly.they will see soon.Barnes is gonna miss the boat.Flame me🔥🔥 and make it a sticky😁🍊
 
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#225
This used to be a nice thread with some good info and relevant updates.

Now it's one of my least favorite threads on this site. Thanks for all the arguing that accomplished quite literally nothing.
 
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