Barr fakery

#153
#153
hog88 said:
Figured you say something like that
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LOL.........
If you know anything about him at all, your already know the answer.
If you know nothing about him, nothing I say in a paragraph or two will change your perceptions.

He is an agent of darkness and saw the same in Trump back in the 80's.
 
#154
#154
NCFisher said:
The facts are not only did the president NOT intervene "in a federal case" by commenting on the prosecutors shenanigans, but he has the constitutional power and duty to do so. Those federal prosecutors are also part and parcel of the EXECUTIVE branch; you don't even know where the two branches separate. You're talking out your rear with nothing to back it but more flatulence.

The ugly look is people yapping authoritatively about things you don't understand, have it explained to you, and remain undeterred, Mr. JUDICIAL branch. I condone separation of powers and constitutional law, while the fascist House left does not and attempts to subjugate both the presidency and Senate.

Lick that banana, apparatchik.
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More ignorant drivel.

For starters, fascism is a far-right form of authoritarianism, so your claim that the "House left" is fascist speaks volumes of adherence to mindless Trump dogma:

Wrong is right.
Up is down.
Facts aren't facts.

Next, by claiming Trump has the right and duty to interfer with criminal cases, then by your reasoning, Trump can direct anybody to be prosecuted or not. As such, there is no rule of law. And if there is no rule of law, then we don't live in a democracy.

As for your's and others' confusion about executive v. judicial branches, ask yourself this simple question: Where is the criminal (Roger Stone) case being tried - the executive or judicial branch? Enough said.

Lastly, for those who still harbor any doubts about the fundamentally authoritarian nature of Trump's actions via Barr, see the following:

More than 1,100 former prosecutors and other DOJ officials call on Attorney General Bill Barr to resign.

I'm done commenting on this matter. If you don't get it, you're incapable of grasping the fundamental concept of separation of power. Not wasting more time on a lost cause. But don't worry, partner, we'll remove the root cause in November.
 
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#155
#155
luthervol said:
LOL.........
If you know anything about him at all, your already know the answer.
If you know nothing about him, nothing I say in a paragraph or two will change your perceptions.

He is an agent of darkness and saw the same in Trump back in the 80's.
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So you can’t come up with anything.
 
#156
#156
MontyPython said:
More ignorant drivel.

For starters, fascism is a far-right form of authoritarianism, so your claim that the "House left" is fascist speaks volumes of adherence to mindless Trump dogma:

Wrong is right.
Up is down.
Facts aren't facts.

Next, by claiming Trump has the right and duty to interfer with criminal cases, then by your reasoning, Trump can direct anybody to be prosecuted or not. As such, there is no rule of law. And if there is no rule of law, then we don't live in a democracy.

As for your's and others' confusion about executive v. judicial branches, ask yourself this simple question: Where is the criminal (Roger Stone) being prosecuted - the executive or judicial branch? Enough said.

Lastly, for those who still harbor any doubts about the fundamentally authoritarian nature of Trump's actions via Barr, see the following:

More than 1,100 former prosecutors and other DOJ officials call on Attorney General Bill Barr to resign.

I'm done commenting on this matter. If you don't get it, you're incapable of grasping the fundamental concept of separation of power. Not wasting more time on a lost cause. But don't worry, partner, we'll remove the root cause in November.
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Did you ever even take a civics class?
 
#161
#161
MontyPython said:
More ignorant drivel.

For starters, fascism is a far-right form of authoritarianism, so your claim that the "House left" is fascist speaks volumes of adherence to mindless Trump dogma:

Wrong is right.
Up is down.
Facts aren't facts.

Next, by claiming Trump has the right and duty to interfer with criminal cases, then by your reasoning, Trump can direct anybody to be prosecuted or not. As such, there is no rule of law. And if there is no rule of law, then we don't live in a democracy.

As for your's and others' confusion about executive v. judicial branches, ask yourself this simple question: Where is the criminal (Roger Stone) being prosecuted - the executive or judicial branch? Enough said.

Lastly, for those who still harbor any doubts about the fundamentally authoritarian nature of Trump's actions via Barr, see the following:

More than 1,100 former prosecutors and other DOJ officials call on Attorney General Bill Barr to resign.

I'm done commenting on this matter. If you don't get it, you're incapable of grasping the fundamental concept of separation of power. Not wasting more time on a lost cause. But don't worry, partner, we'll remove the root cause in November.
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Fascism is agnostic. It is separated from socialism primarily in nationalism rather than universalism, and taking control of means of production by fiat, and not by nationalization. It is a more economically viable model of socialism than the Russian model. Like universal socialism, it is anti-capitalist and collectivist; it is state authority, not individual liberty under constitution. It infected left and right last century, including American progressives. FDR both admired and was admired by Mussolini and Stalin as "men of action". Hitler admired FDR for the same reasons. Nazi newspapers complimented his numerous fascist-like policies, as did domestic papers such as NYT. Regale me some more with talk about fascism, yet another topic you don't understand.

You put the cart before the horse; indictment follows an investigation to establish grounds for a criminal case. The constitution says a president must see laws are faithfully executed. A president can absolutely request that someone be investigated, or not. You cannot logically separate the two. As prior stated, it doesn't mean he should (or shouldn't) depending upon circumstance but that is solely a matter of opinion, not a legal or constitutional barrier.

But he didn't even make such a request, which he has the power and duty to do. He commented on an excessive, unjust sentencing recommendation by rogue EXECUTIVE branch employees. Yeah, he can do that.

And tens of thousands of former prosecutors and DOJ officials don't call for Barr to resign; I win. Those 1100 are the same retreads who said Trump should be impeached for obstruction. Both letters were the work of the Protect Democracy Project, a left of center group formed in 2017 as reaction to Trump being elected. Gee, small wonder that they actually oppose Trump, eh?

It is people like you who do not understand separation of powers or the constitution that established it. You're still clinging to your ignorance with dull statements like "Where is the criminal (Roger Stone) being prosecuted - the executive or judicial branch? Enough said." Ah, yes, defendants are tried in courts - JUDICIARY - by (in this case) U.S. prosecutors who are EXECUTIVE branch employees, answer to Barr who is the chief law enforcement officer of the EXECUTIVE branch. That alone condemns the partisan and Never-Trump 1,100 as constitutionally-deaf jackasses calling "Resign...Impeach" for Trump exercising his plenary powers and Barr his own official duties.

Sonny, you were done the moment you first replied. You might try Raw Story or Democratic Underground where your brand of willful stupidity is not only unchallenged, but welcome.
 
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#162
#162
MontyPython said:
More ignorant drivel.

For starters, fascism is a far-right form of authoritarianism, so your claim that the "House left" is fascist speaks volumes of adherence to mindless Trump dogma:

Wrong is right.
Up is down.
Facts aren't facts.

Next, by claiming Trump has the right and duty to interfer with criminal cases, then by your reasoning, Trump can direct anybody to be prosecuted or not. As such, there is no rule of law. And if there is no rule of law, then we don't live in a democracy.

As for your's and others' confusion about executive v. judicial branches, ask yourself this simple question: Where is the criminal (Roger Stone) case being tried - the executive or judicial branch? Enough said.

Lastly, for those who still harbor any doubts about the fundamentally authoritarian nature of Trump's actions via Barr, see the following:

More than 1,100 former prosecutors and other DOJ officials call on Attorney General Bill Barr to resign.

I'm done commenting on this matter. If you don't get it, you're incapable of grasping the fundamental concept of separation of power. Not wasting more time on a lost cause. But don't worry, partner, we'll remove the root cause in November.
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I like the article you cite is "former" prosecutors. That's the best part of the article. They can all pi$$ off. They are partly to blame for the system becoming a cesspool. Good riddance. I almost can't stand all this winning.
 
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#165
#165
NCFisher said:
Fascism is agnostic. It is separated from socialism primarily in nationalism rather than universalism, and taking control of means of production by fiat, and not by nationalization. It is a more economically viable model of socialism than the Russian model. Like universal socialism, it is anti-capitalist and collectivist; it is state authority, not individual liberty under constitution. It infected left and right last century, including American progressives. FDR both admired and was admired by Mussolini and Stalin as "men of action". Hitler admired FDR for the same reasons. Nazi newspapers complimented his numerous fascist-like policies, as did domestic papers such as NYT. Regale me some more with talk about fascism, yet another topic you don't understand.

You put the cart before the horse; indictment follows an investigation to establish grounds for a criminal case. The constitution says a president must see laws are faithfully executed. A president can absolutely request that someone be investigated, or not. You cannot logically separate the two. As prior stated, it doesn't mean he should (or shouldn't) depending upon circumstance but that is solely a matter of opinion, not a legal or constitutional barrier.

But he didn't even make such a request, which he has the power and duty to do. He commented on an excessive, unjust sentencing recommendation by rogue EXECUTIVE branch employees. Yeah, he can do that.

And tens of thousands of former prosecutors and DOJ officials don't call for Barr to resign; I win. Those 1100 are the same retreads who said Trump should be impeached for obstruction. Both letters were the work of the Protect Democracy Project, a left of center group formed in 2017 as reaction to Trump being elected. Gee, small wonder that they actually oppose Trump, eh?

It is people like you who do not understand separation of powers or the constitution that established it. You're still clinging to your ignorance with dull statements like "Where is the criminal (Roger Stone) being prosecuted - the executive or judicial branch? Enough said." Ah, yes, defendants are tried in courts - JUDICIARY - by (in this case) U.S. prosecutors who are EXECUTIVE branch employees, answer to Barr who is the chief law enforcement officer of the EXECUTIVE branch. That alone condemns the partisan and Never-Trump 1,100 as constitutionally-deaf jackasses calling "Resign...Impeach" for Trump exercising his plenary powers and Barr his own official duties.

Sonny, you were done the moment you first replied. You might try Raw Story or Democratic Underground where your brand of willful stupidity is not only unchallenged, but welcome.
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It's 2000 now.
King Trump and his jesters continue to scurry......and post drivel.
 
#169
#169
luthervol said:
Fingers crossed. The more good men the better.

“The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.” ―
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They should all resign, that would show us.

never-mind- I see that they are all former employees, most already fired.
 
#172
#172
If Barr were to resign......Trump would only hire another just like him........keep the hysterics going ya'll.

Putting someone in jail 7-9 years for the non-violent crime Stone committed is stupid judgment at best.
 
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#174
W.TN.Orange Blood said:
If Barr were to resign......Trump would only hire another just like him........keep the hysterics going ya'll.

Putting someone in jail 7-9 years for the non-violent crime Stone committed is stupid judgment at best.
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Barr isn't resigning until after Trump's reelection.
 
#175
#175
W.TN.Orange Blood said:
If Barr were to resign......Trump would only hire another just like him........keep the hysterics going ya'll.

Putting someone in jail 7-9 years for the non-violent crime Stone committed is stupid judgment at best.
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I assume you're willing to apply that reasoning across the board, regardless of melanin level?
 
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