Treat people like sh*t and you’re gonna get what you deserve. He sucked @$$. We handled his firing in a stupid way. Both are true.Honestly all coaches do and he learned from the ledger King and worked with the guy who learned the ledger from the king. It was unhappy ppl who were involved from benched players to fired coaches to boosters to employees who weren't happy with him not being the corporate good guy and speaking smiling and quoting cute quotes all the time that was his demise.
The guy took a year that shouldn’t have counted, and made it count. You don’t get massacred by UK. You don’t lose 7 games by double digits. And you don’t produce an offense like that in year 3. And you don’t get caught paying players. As for COVID, Gibbs (who has yet to take a snap) was the only player to opt out for the whole year. Relatively speaking, we weren’t affected.Nothing would have blown up, though... that's sort of the point. We should have given Pruitt a pass on 2020 and pushed forward. You give him 2 more years and, if his program still sucks, then you fire him and don't have to pay a huge buyout. Then you have a solid roster, because his recruiting was pretty decent, no ncaa santions looming, and you can attract a better HC.
I still can’t believe that we couldn’t just fire him and move on instead of throwing the whole university under the bus..
I still can’t believe that we couldn’t just fire him and move on instead of throwing the whole university under the bus..
What unwritten rule? Ole Miss was extremely sloppy and it wasn’t the coaches that turned them in..... look at the black balling that went on with pearl over the Illinois stuff.True, but the rumor revolves about how sloppy Nieds got, and how he broke the unwritten rules coaches have amongst themselves for doing this stuff.
This was the frustrating part. Auburn didn’t do this to Gus and paid a much bigger buyout. We will spend the same amount in lawyer fees etc I’m sure than if we just paid the buyout. Especially when someone on here claims we have FU money but it clearly meant FU fans/program we just want our power back from Fulmer/Pruitt regime.
I feel like this wasn't said during the argument past couple days, so here goes...
Cheating at recruiting doesnt make a coach unable to be a good role model or person. NCAA is not the Ten Commandments, their law is not a moral law, it is a business law that everybody breaks like the speed limit, and often in breaking that law, they are supporting a poor family and giving them access to both necessities and luxury that they didnt have access to before. You could argue that it is a morally good decision to provide for the kids that are being held down by an archaic rule and being denied the ability to profit off their massive success. It's kind of a national debate in fact lol.
Of course it's also in the self-interest of the coaches to pay the kids, not saying they're just pulling a Mansa Musa and raining money out of the kindness of their hearts, but the act of paying players doesnt disqualify a coach from being a good role model or good human. Recruiting is legally dirty, but that doesnt make the participants morally dirty. So I dont think @de1conley is wrong in separating those two elements.
I'm just giving you what I've heard. Apparently coaches have lines that aren't supposed to be crossed in these situations, but Nieds did. Kirby wasn't happy and was making noise. It involved the recruitment of Mims. Believe, don't believe, I don't care. That's on you. I can't swear it's true, I can only tell you I heard about it.What unwritten rule? Ole Miss was extremely sloppy and it wasn’t the coaches that turned them in..... look at the black balling that went on with pearl over the Illinois stuff.
I’m just curious what line that would beI'm just giving you what I've heard. Apparently coaches have lines that aren't supposed to be crossed in these situations, but Nieds did. Kirby wasn't happy and was making noise. It involved the recruitment of Mims. Believe, don't believe, I don't care. That's on you. I can't swear it's true, I can only tell you I heard about it.
I feel like this wasn't said during the argument past couple days, so here goes...
Cheating at recruiting doesnt make a coach unable to be a good role model or person. NCAA is not the Ten Commandments, their law is not a moral law, it is a business law that everybody breaks like the speed limit, and often in breaking that law, they are supporting a poor family and giving them access to both necessities and luxury that they didnt have access to before. You could argue that it is a morally good decision to provide for the kids that are being held down by an archaic rule and being denied the ability to profit off their massive success. It's kind of a national debate in fact lol.
Of course it's also in the self-interest of the coaches to pay the kids, not saying they're just pulling a Mansa Musa and raining money out of the kindness of their hearts, but the act of paying players doesnt disqualify a coach from being a good role model or good human. Recruiting is legally dirty, but that doesnt make the participants morally dirty. So I dont think @de1conley is wrong in separating those two elements.