'15 FL QB/WR/DB (anything he wants) Torrance Gibson

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Torrance Gibson ‏@quick_tg6
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VolSinceIwasborn said:
I think you have to be dumb not to want this kid. Has a lot of potential in Butches system plus if he doesn't work out at QB he has high upside as a WR. Seems to make sense to take him as a QB hope it pans out but if it doesn't he can shine after Malone and North are catching passes on Sunday.
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I guess I'm an idiot then
 
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I don't understand the negativity about this kid at all. He looks awesome to me. His highlights look nasty. Sure, he's not polished yet. But he probably won't have to play as a freshman anyways. If he does get polished. Holy crap. He looks like the kind of quarterback that ends up winning the national championship.

3rd and short, no problem. Our quarterback can get that easily every time. That's what made Florida so hard to beat when Tebow was there. They could convert 3rd and short with him so consistently. With the skill position talent we are gathering at the moment, Gibson could put us over the top. The college game is built for mobile quarterbacks like this to excel.

Also, if he doesn't end up as polished as the coaching staff would like, he looks like he would make a pretty nice receiver. He's a 5 star athlete. Want him bad.
 
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Let me break it down like this:

Everyone sees that he is a "5*"!!!!!!!!!!! We gotta have him at UT!!!!!!!

Let's look at a few of the facts.

- Gibson is a great athlete no doubt. I am not denying that by any means. One of the better athletes in this class.

However

- A 5* player is on that people think could be an immediate contributor. So, this guy isn't even starting at his high school now. At QB, he is extremely raw. Is there some potential there? Yes. But he is not an immediate contributor.

- So, let's think about Torrance as a WR. His athleticism allows him to be able to succeed at this position. But he has never played the position. To say the least, he would be very raw here as well. However, if there is one spot we have good depth at, it's WR. With that being said, we are in on WR's just as talented or more than what Torrance would be at that position, and they have been playing there for their high school career. One of those options, like Rahming, Jefferson, Sanders, Tyron Johnson, etc. would be much better imo

- We did not take a QB last year.To add to that, NO ONE on this roster is a proven QB at the SEC level. So, we need someone that would be able to, IF need be, play right away. Gibson has some tools, but would be at least a 2 year project, wheras someone like Gentry, who runs a similar offense, would be a much smoother transition. Plus, I think he fits this offense better than Gibson, seeing how he is a much better passer.

If we were to take Gibson as a 2nd QB, I would be ok with it. But if we only get one, we need someone that could potentially contribute immediately, and Gibson isn't that guy. I also feel he should be a 4* ATH. At no position do I see a scenario he would contribute right away
 
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wU-Tang Vol said:
Let me break it down like this:

Everyone sees that he is a "5*"!!!!!!!!!!! We gotta have him at UT!!!!!!!

Let's look at a few of the facts.

- Gibson is a great athlete no doubt. I am not denying that by any means. One of the better athletes in this class.

However

- A 5* player is on that people think could be an immediate contributor. So, this guy isn't even starting at his high school now. At QB, he is extremely raw. Is there some potential there? Yes. But he is not an immediate contributor.

- So, let's think about Torrance as a WR. His athleticism allows him to be able to succeed at this position. But he has never played the position. To say the least, he would be very raw here as well. However, if there is one spot we have good depth at, it's WR. With that being said, we are in on WR's just as talented or more than what Torrance would be at that position, and they have been playing there for their high school career. One of those options, like Rahming, Jefferson, Sanders, Tyron Johnson, etc. would be much better imo

- We did not take a QB last year.To add to that, NO ONE on this roster is a proven QB at the SEC level. So, we need someone that would be able to, IF need be, play right away. Gibson has some tools, but would be at least a 2 year project, wheras someone like Gentry, who runs a similar offense, would be a much smoother transition. Plus, I think he fits this offense better than Gibson, seeing how he is a much better passer.

If we were to take Gibson as a 2nd QB, I would be ok with it. But if we only get one, we need someone that could potentially contribute immediately, and Gibson isn't that guy. I also feel he should be a 4* ATH. At no position do I see a scenario he would contribute right away
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wU-Tang Vol said:
Let me break it down like this:

Everyone sees that he is a "5*"!!!!!!!!!!! We gotta have him at UT!!!!!!!

Let's look at a few of the facts.

- Gibson is a great athlete no doubt. I am not denying that by any means. One of the better athletes in this class.

However

- A 5* player is on that people think could be an immediate contributor. So, this guy isn't even starting at his high school now. At QB, he is extremely raw. Is there some potential there? Yes. But he is not an immediate contributor.

- So, let's think about Torrance as a WR. His athleticism allows him to be able to succeed at this position. But he has never played the position. To say the least, he would be very raw here as well. However, if there is one spot we have good depth at, it's WR. With that being said, we are in on WR's just as talented or more than what Torrance would be at that position, and they have been playing there for their high school career. One of those options, like Rahming, Jefferson, Sanders, Tyron Johnson, etc. would be much better imo

- We did not take a QB last year.To add to that, NO ONE on this roster is a proven QB at the SEC level. So, we need someone that would be able to, IF need be, play right away. Gibson has some tools, but would be at least a 2 year project, wheras someone like Gentry, who runs a similar offense, would be a much smoother transition. Plus, I think he fits this offense better than Gibson, seeing how he is a much better passer.

If we were to take Gibson as a 2nd QB, I would be ok with it. But if we only get one, we need someone that could potentially contribute immediately, and Gibson isn't that guy. I also feel he should be a 4* ATH. At no position do I see a scenario he would contribute right away
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But we got Riley. He's the man and he's gonna hold it down for a while in my opinion. I don't expect any of these 2015 QB's to walk in and win the job over either him or Dobbs. I mean it's possible, but I wouldn't expect it unless we have a group of really poor quarterbacks on the roster right now. Which I don't believe is the case.

Whoever we get, whether it's Gentry or Gibson or somebody else, I expect that guy to take some time to develop. I just like Gibson's ceiling a lot. And he seems to have some interest.

Just let The Gib develop and let's win big baby.
 
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I see James Banks when I see Torrance Gibson.
Marginally-capable QB but could be a heart-breaker at wide-receiver.
 
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seaofORANGE22 said:
But we got Riley. He's the man and he's gonna hold it down for a while in my opinion. I don't expect any of these 2015 QB's to walk in and win the job over either him or Dobbs. I mean it's possible, but I wouldn't expect it unless we have a group of really poor quarterbacks on the roster right now. Which I don't believe is the case.

Whoever we get, whether it's Gentry or Gibson or somebody else, I expect that guy to take some time to develop. I just like Gibson's ceiling a lot.

Just let The Gib develop and let's win big baby.
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I see your argument, but let me ask this..

What if Riley doesn't pan out? What if he stays hurt at UT?

Obviously young QB's take time to develop, but Gibson isn't even starting at his high school now (if that is still the case). That is a full year of not playing QB. He was raw to begin with, but then he doesn't play QB for an entire year against high school competition, and now he has to develop in the SEC. That would take a long time, and there is zero promise he will pan out.

Like a said, as the 2nd QB, cool. As the only QB, no sir
 
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wU-Tang Vol said:
I see your argument, but let me ask this..

What if Riley doesn't pan out? What if he stays hurt at UT?

Obviously young QB's take time to develop, but Gibson isn't even starting at his high school now (if that is still the case). That is a full year of not playing QB. He was raw to begin with, but then he doesn't play QB for an entire year against high school competition, and now he has to develop in the SEC. That would take a long time, and there is zero promise he will pan out.

Like a said, as the 2nd QB, cool. As the only QB, no sir
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I think it's a bit of a stretch to assume he's not still playing quarterback. It's not even football season yet. We don't know much about his development outside of word of mouth and his highlight tape. The highlight tape shows a guy who plays quarterback and has tremendous upside. I agree that he would need a lot of work, but I also think that's the case for any quarterback we get.

It seems like you would rather play it safe in recruiting a quarterback, and I understand that. It gives us insurance in case something happens and a freshman was forced into action. But that's clearly the worst case scenario. If he wasn't ready next season and Riley were to get injured, I would expect Dobbs to be the backup and Peterman to be 3rd string. Both of which are capable players who have been in the system multiple years who would get those reps before a freshman (any freshman). Pretty much unless that freshman ends up being Peyton Manning.

I agree, lots of injuries could obviously happen. But if it does, then we are in trouble anyways. My argument is only that we should go after the guys with the highest ceiling. I also don't think that if we took Gibson, he would be the only QB we would take. Butch has a history when he was at Cincinnati of taking two QB's in each class, and since he didn't take one last year I would think there's a good chance he gets two this year. Which I'm all for.
 
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Again, I see your argument, but who says Gibson has the highest ceiling?

Because Gentry is #1 on our board per VQ
 
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wU-Tang Vol said:
Again, I see your argument, but who says Gibson has the highest ceiling?

Because Gentry is #1 on our board per VQ
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I don't know much about the coaches board. If Gentry is the guy they want then I'm all for it. He looks sharp for sure. That's just me talking. I'm always intrigued by recruits who are that big, tall and fast that can play quarterback. He just looks like a player that if he were to put it all together could win the Heisman trophy or something. And yes. That's a humongous "if". But I like "ifs". Recruiting is kind of all about "ifs" sometimes.
 
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wU-Tang Vol said:
What if Riley doesn't pan out? What if he stays hurt at UT?
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Dobbs, Ferguson and Peterman should all be on the roster from now until the end of the 2016 season. Even assuming that Gibson is a project and needs time to develop, we wouldn't need him to play during his first two years - we should have plenty of experience and depth at the position. At the very least, either Dobbs or Ferguson should develop into a serviceable SEC starting QB. It is inconceivable that they would both flop with the weapons we have.

wU-Tang Vol said:
Obviously young QB's take time to develop, but Gibson isn't even starting at his high school now (if that is still the case). That is a full year of not playing QB. He was raw to begin with, but then he doesn't play QB for an entire year against high school competition, and now he has to develop in the SEC. That would take a long time, and there is zero promise he will pan out.

Like a said, as the 2nd QB, cool. As the only QB, no sir
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Where have you read that Gibson isn't the starting QB at his high school anymore? There's a big difference between experimenting at WR at a summer passing camp that rewards pocket passers and permanently switching to WR for actual games.

Contrary to what coaches may say, playing QB in college football isn't rocket science. Athletes like Nick Marshall, Tim Tebow, Pat White, Vince Young, Brad Smith, Antwarn Randel-el, Michael Vick, etc all had tremendous success at QB in college despite marginal throwing ability. Butch Jones has said that he wants to imitate Oregon's offense, which has run just fine in the past with mobile QBs who couldn't really pass (Dennis Dixon, Darron Thomas, etc). Why? Because teaming up a running threat like Gibson with RBs like Hurd or Scott in the backfield will forces teams to stack eight or nine guys in the box, which frees up the WRs to get big plays against single coverage.

I'm not particularly interested in seeing Butch Jones' offense run again by another pocket passer. I agree with seaofORANGE22 that our staff should go after the QB with the highest ceiling for our offense, who - according to what Gibson said the coaches told him - is Gibson.
 
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AboveAllNations said:
Dobbs, Ferguson and Peterman should all be on the roster from now until the end of the 2016 season. Even assuming that Gibson is a project and needs time to develop, we wouldn't need him to play during his first two years - we should have plenty of experience and depth at the position. At the very least, either Dobbs or Ferguson should develop into a serviceable SEC starting QB. It is inconceivable that they would both flop with the weapons we have.



Where have you read that Gibson isn't the starting QB at his high school anymore? There's a big difference between experimenting at WR at a summer passing camp that rewards pocket passers and permanently switching to WR for actual games.

Contrary to what coaches may say, playing QB in college football isn't rocket science. Athletes like Nick Marshall, Tim Tebow, Pat White, Vince Young, Brad Smith, Antwarn Randel-el, Michael Vick, etc all had tremendous success at QB in college despite marginal throwing ability. Butch Jones has said that he wants to imitate Oregon's offense, which has run just fine in the past with mobile QBs who couldn't really pass (Dennis Dixon, Darron Thomas, etc). Why? Because teaming up a running threat like Gibson with RBs like Hurd or Scott in the backfield will forces teams to stack eight or nine guys in the box, which frees up the WRs to get big plays against single coverage.

I'm not particularly interested in seeing Butch Jones' offense run again by another pocket passer. I agree with seaofORANGE22 that our staff should go after the QB with the highest ceiling for our offense, who - according to what Gibson said the coaches told him - is Gibson.
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HG broke the WR news

HialeahGator said:
Word is he'll play Wr next season at AHHS.
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I guess a 5* QB should do good in camps, especially seeing how it is easy to shine for a 5* QB in 7 on 7's, but:

PassedOutAwake said:
Luke Stampini ‏@LukeStampini 4m
More WR for Torrance Gibson today. Lots of QB reps passed up past 3 weekends. Live Updates: B2G 7-on-7 …
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So, 3 weekends in a row at camps he passed up at QB to play WR.. hmm...

And, according to VQ, our top 2 targets are Gentry and Winbush. So there's the word of VQ, who has a better idea than Gibson of who is at the top of the board. And yes, there are plenty of athletes that succeed at the QB position in college. But Gibson couldn't succeed at a 7 on 7..
 
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i just know we need athletes...where he fits in the future i dont know nor do i care really at this point. athletically he is a top notch athlete. we need more of those and less of the 6'0 white guys and kids with last minute dooley offers.
 
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RiseToTheTop said:
i just know we need athletes...where he fits in the future i dont know nor do i care really at this point. athletically he is a top notch athlete. we need more of those and less of the 6'0 white guys and kids with last minute dooley offers.
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I agree with this. I wouldnt be mad if we took Gibson. Just not as a QB. JMO. I respect everyone that disagrees
 
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