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peaygolf said:
Another example where money screws something up...................:rolleyes:

I get it, make your money and screw everyone else:mad:
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I don't get it either. What do you do with 125 mil for just playing in the league. I don't agree with PGA not letting people play both the way they want. Not to watch Dustin Johnson not play in the PGA is nuts.
 
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Devo182 said:
Answered this last week - it is a "prayer/praise to the baseball gods".

Some say we made it up on our own. Other people say it's from a video game.

Luc seems to have his belly rub thing. Someone else said Ortega has his own celebration as well. But most of our guys use this one. Love it!
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Another staple shenanigan is the Vols' extra-base hit celebration, a Gilbert creation: sort of a cover-your-face kneel-down to the baseball gods once you get on second or third base.

Gilbert, his face and cheeks covered in eye black and sporting the Terminator shades, laughs when asked to explain it all.

"Honestly, it doesn't mean anything," he said. "There's no meaning behind it. We just made it up. It just kind of evolved. It's weird, just something that's funny. It's different. That's why we do it."
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I wonder if one cause of the portal drying up was the sudden rule (I know it helps us overall) that the 25 scholarships limit doesn't count for two years, only the 85 man roster. Did that mean that some teams did not release people after spring ball to free up scholarship spots? I'm asking. I don't know.
 
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Nash_Vol97 said:
I would like to think I’d stay with the PGA but there are VERY FEW people in this world that know what it’s like to have a $125 million check sitting in front of them.

DJ has made around $200 million in his career. About $75 million in tournament winnings, $25 million in FedEx Cup winnings and $100 million in endorsements, etc. That is generational money. On top of that his wife, who is an absolute smokes show by the way, is Wayne Gretzkys daughter. So there’s money on that side too. So for him to chase the $125 million dollar check.. he just wants more money. Simple greed.

Now, a guy like Kevin Na I am less upset with. He has made $37 million in his career earnings. That’s nothing to laugh at. That’s A LOT of money. But say his LIV contract is for $50-75 million. He’s doubled and almost tripled his money in one contract, and it doesn’t matter if he wins. He sets up his family for even further generations to come. I still don’t like it, but I can understand the decision, to a degree at least.

Now, money aside, the main reason I hope I would say no in their position is because I want no part in Saudi sports-washing. Some of the things they have done as a country have been unforgivable and I would want my name no where near that.
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As a society we're good with using cheap communist Chinese wage rates to facilitate living beyond our means and have even celebrated it as controlling inflation to promote progress. Hard to criticize these golfers for taking Saudi money when considered in that light unless it's just because "we" believe they already have too much $? The idea that greed doesn't exist below a certain $$ threshold is an untrue and dangerous narrative designed to achieve a political and cultural objective. Greed exists in every economic strata and is equally problematic and ugly in all of them. We're all guilty to some degree.

The PGA has the luxury of hiding behind the idea that the status quo is ok because it's the status quo. They also had the luxury of Phil making a series of cataclysmically stupid decisions. My personal take is that they're pretty much all equally right/wrong. It's not a lot different than the frustrations created by non revenue generating NCAA members having the ability (if they vote in a block) to collectively govern the few dozen schools that produce all the revenue. Some of the revenue generators feel like the good outweighs the bad. Others disagree and are pushing for the Power 5 break. When that break occurs, and it will at some point, the dissenters will cite greed among other selfish interests as the motivation for the split but just like with LIV and the PGA, that narrative won't tell the whole story. Plenty of blame on all sides.
 
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butchna said:
They moved it anyway, but it was relevant. Not exactly detours about dog farts or favorite rappers.
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I get it. But it was pages of NIL discussion in a recruit thread.

You're right, it was football related, buy not particular to that recruit. I should have asked for it to be moved to the other RF football discussion thread.

I normally don't complain when things get off topic in a recruits thread, but that was pages of beating a dead horse. Either side was budging and saying the same stuff over and over and over.
 
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vol9799 said:
As a society we're good with using cheap communist Chinese wage rates to facilitate living beyond our means and have even celebrated it as controlling inflation to promote progress. Hard to criticize these golfers for taking Saudi money when considered in that light unless it's just because "we" believe they already have too much $? The idea that greed doesn't exist below a certain $$ threshold is an untrue and dangerous narrative designed to achieve a political and cultural objective. Greed exists in every economic strata and is equally problematic and ugly in all of them. We're all guilty to some degree.

The PGA has the luxury of hiding behind the idea that the status quo is ok because it's the status quo. They also had the luxury of Phil making a series of cataclysmically stupid decisions. My personal take is that they're pretty much all equally right/wrong. It's not a lot different than the frustrations created by non revenue generating NCAA members having the ability (if they vote in a block) to collectively govern the few dozen schools that produce all the revenue. Some of the revenue generators feel like the good outweighs the bad. Others disagree and are pushing for the Power 5 break. When that break occurs, and it will at some point, the dissenters will cite greed among other selfish interests as the motivation for the split but just like with LIV and the PGA, that narrative won't tell the whole story. Plenty of blame on all sides.
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This^^ I've been formulating my general opinions today and largely come to this. And I don't really care about golf.

Just seems like a "take the plank out of your own eye" first type of deal. We guzzle Chinese goods. Our beloved University has a multimillion dollar contract with Nike and our jerseys are made in Indonesian sweatshops with suicide nets. We guzzle Russian and Saudi oil. Our wife's diamonds (unless lab grown) have blood stains. The materials that make up our phones and computers came from massively destructive strip mines. Our military and space technology post-WW2 came largely from Nazi scientists. Much of the coffee we drink comes from cartel dominated countries with corrupt governments and human rights violations.

And a bet Saudis are mad they're paying and buying Americans that have damaged much of the Middle East and support Israel in their views.

So I guess it just doesn't move the needle for me unless I hop on a horse and look down. That's a lot of money, do it for a few years then get out if you want. I don't care your reasons for or against. Not my life or decision. Bring that cash back to the US... because we all know it's largely American money anyway.

So let's focus on some positives here: this opens up opportunities for young athletes and those on the fridge of making professional appearances to get opportunities in the US. It also may be one more opportunity for dialogue and connection to western culture and values. Interaction between two opposing peoples, finding common ground and understanding is the best way to build bridges and mend relationships.
 
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SoilVol said:
This^^ I've been formulating my general opinions today and largely come to this. And I don't really care about golf.

Just seems like a "take the plank out of your own eye" first type of deal. We guzzle Chinese goods. Our beloved University has a multimillion dollar contract with Nike and our jerseys are made in Indonesian sweatshops with suicide nets. We guzzle Russian and Saudi oil. Our wife's diamonds (unless lab grown) have blood stains. The materials that make up our phones and computers came from massively destructive strip mines. Our military and space technology post-WW2 came largely from Nazi scientists. Much of the coffee we drink comes from cartel dominated countries with corrupt governments and human rights violations.

And a bet Saudis are mad they're paying and buying Americans that have damaged much of the Middle East and support Israel in their views.

So I guess it just doesn't move the needle for me unless I hop on a horse and look down. That's a lot of money, do it for a few years then get out if you want. I don't care your reasons for or against. Not my life or decision. Bring that cash back to the US... because we all know it's largely American money anyway.

So let's focus on some positives here: this opens up opportunities for young athletes and those on the fridge of making professional appearances to get opportunities in the US. It also may be one more opportunity for dialogue and connection to western culture and values. Interaction between two opposing peoples, finding common ground and understanding is the best way to build bridges and mend relationships.
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Good post.
Saudi Arabia exports over 7 million barrels a day of crude oil. At $100 per barrel, that's $700,000,000 of revenue per DAY. So they can well afford to give a few million to American golfers.
Lord knows how much money we spend per day on Chinese imports.
 
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Nash_Vol97 said:
Saudi Arabia is “Sportswashing”. TLDR version: the investment in sporting and entertainment is them trying to buy goodwill for their awful human rights and other issues.

Also, this is the overall view of not just PGA vs LIV but with all sports in general vs Saudi input. European Soccer has been fighting sportswashing for a while now but Manchester City, Paris Saint-Germain, etc all have Saudi owners and are some of the biggest spenders in soccer.

Saudi Arabia has spent at least $1.5bn on 'sportswashing', report reveals
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The level of awkwardness in all this must be astounding. Not that the U.S. govt is directly invested in the PGA or other U.S. tours, but the irony in considering who is backing who in that war and grilling the Saudi attacks is pretty skrong. Not that there's a great side to support there (maybe no one?) but clear civilian bombing is disgusting to anyone. Just an awful humanitarian situation in Yemen.
 
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Ten_Titans said:
Just a thought I had today... Auburn is going to have a mediocre at best QB, a WR corps where the leading receiver has like 300 career yards, an offensive line unchanged from last year that was awful, a head coach who's gonna have contractors coming in and taking measurements in his office all year... And Tank Bigsby.

How on earth did they convince that dude to come back just to look at stacked boxes and a poverty Oline? Still don't get it.
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Devil's advocate here, because I think the sooner Harsin is gone and they do a total reset, the better:

I'm guessing because it was already late in the cycle and he was literally there one year at that point. Unless they were going to hire Steele, who would want to step into that situation at a school that may fire you in 12 months?
 
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engineerVOL said:
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The home plate up likely called him out for obstruction/interference due to running inside the base line. Given that the pitcher was in foul territory when he threw the ball, that is a poor call. The pitcher’s piss-poor throw went to the inside, so I can see where the ump may have thought otherwise (in real time). Why not add one more video review to the plethora of reviews? It may have dictated an otherwise more sensible call.
 
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buckfama said:
I get it. But it was pages of NIL discussion in a recruit thread.

You're right, it was football related, buy not particular to that recruit. I should have asked for it to be moved to the other RF football discussion thread.

I normally don't complain when things get off topic in a recruits thread, but that was pages of beating a dead horse. Either side was budging and saying the same stuff over and over and over.
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It was directly recruiting related and initiated while discussing Carnell Tate. Of course I’m not even outraged that a PGA discussion broke out in the Recruiting Forum Football Talk…so I’ll let this die and compost.
 
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TheRain said:
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Very cool!

This shows Britandiana Jones.

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Christian Lowe said:
Anybody have a pair of supers tickets they’re selling? Want to take the girlfriend and use the occasion to make her a fiancé. (She’s as big a fan as me, it’s not a stupid place to do it for her).
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Errrrrr me too. Anyone got a pair of Supers tickets? I'll also propose to @Christian Lowe 's girlfriend if it gets me in the park.

Kidding. Good luck!!
 
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Are we expecting any commits soon? It being June and all, I thought we might be expecting to land a few this month.
 
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