8 Vols assistants reject UT pay cut to help with losses due to covid

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Mrgro said:
Are any of you who are running these guys down taking a pay reduction at your job willingly? These guys have bills to pay just like you.

Edit: I'm not a fan of their coaching btw.
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I did. I took a pay cut in March to keep my job because our company was going to lose money this year due to COVID. Maybe it should be served up to these assistant coaches that way.
 
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whodeycin85 said:
Gameday was an expample..hence why I said example...
Apply it to any low level positions with in UT that has a restriction on due the plandemic...all woulf have been released from employment regardless due to lack of need....ie. you dont need 10 janitors to clean 3 classrooms when 1 can do it.....dont need 5 mowers...when 2 can do it....dont need 45 cooks in the cafeteria when your serving 50 kids...it the need for the employees are no longer there why would the university keep them?? So they feel better??

At your job..if your only allowed to sell 50% of what you normally do, your telling me your company is not gonna downsize on then people under you???
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NO they aren’t. Not this year because it’s a PANDEMIC and my company has tried (and been successful) in keeping us all employed. I’ve SEEN it happen at my company and we are a locally owned 60M annual company with over 300 employees. Just because YOU don’t believe it makes sense doesn’t mean it’s not possible!!!
 
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SmokyRiverDog said:
Why shouldn't the unnecessary workers that can be cut without detriment to the organization sacrifice for these coaches to continue being paid as promised? The assistant coaches were made a promise, not the at-will employees.
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Good lord. Our moral compass in this nation is Gordon Freaking Gecko. It’s sad.
 
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utvols1975 said:
I did. I took a pay cut in March to keep my job because our company was going to lose money this year. Maybe it should be served up these the assistant coaches that way.
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They don’t understand on here brother. You’ll be amazed at how these people are acting. It’s really sad.
 
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utvols1975 said:
I did. I took a pay cut in March to keep my job because our company was going to lose money this year. Maybe it should be served up these the assistant coaches that way.
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If they are able to refuse per contract terms and are dismissed for refusing, they are owed their compensation for the term of the contract. That makes no sense.
 
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BalledUPfists said:
NO they aren’t. Not this year because it’s a PANDEMIC and my company has tried (and been successful) in keeping us all employed. I’ve SEEN it happen at my company and we are a locally owned 60M annual company with over 300 employees. Just because YOU don’t believe it makes sense doesn’t mean it’s not possible!!!
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Not a single person lost thier job due to any restrictions placed on your company????? If that is indeed the case.....the your company is the exception and not the general rule or the impact was not as great...many companies in manufacturing car parts,machine work, have experiancedvl very little layoffs, where as the service industry has been hit hardest
 
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SmokyRiverDog said:
Workers are people, but people are not necessarily workers. Either way, utilizing quotes was irresponsible at the very least.
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I apologize for misquoting. I honestly didn’t intend to and backtracked once you brought it up. It doesn’t change the situation though. At all.
 
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SmokyRiverDog said:
You think it is more moral to pay people not given a promise than people given a promise?
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I think it’s asinine to state that an hourly employee should “sacrifice” so that someone making 1.6M a year can realize their contract rate.

If that is your moral code, then good luck to you.
 
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VolInNW said:
I think it’s asinine to state that an hourly employee should “sacrifice” so that someone making 1.6M a year can realize their contract rate.

If that is your moral code, em good luck to you.
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Won’t work man...I’ve been fighting this all by myself all day. You can’t convince a heartless person to think with their heart.
 
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whodeycin85 said:
Not a single person lost thier job due to any restrictions placed on your company????? If that is indeed the case.....the your company is the exception and not the general rule or the impact was not as great...many companies in manufacturing car parts,machine work, have experiancedvl very little layoffs, where as the service industry has been hit hardest
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Yes, that is accurate. We ALL made voluntary sacrifices to stay 💯. We are now running at 92%yoy and trending up to close Q4. My personal sales GP are at 96%yoy. AND we have stronger ties within due to fighting TOGETHER thru this. Call it whatever you want, but it’s been refreshing to experience.
 
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OriginalCoach said:
Weak argument. I wouldn’t expect, say an ICU nurse to take a pay cut but none of what they do is cancelled or postponed. Why shouldn’t coaches take a pay cut?
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My wife is a critical care nurse and has not received a raise. She has traveled to the worst affected areas and contracted Covid back in the spring because nurses quit. Keep your weak argument to yourself. If you get paid to do a job its sill ti take a pay cut.
 
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VolInNW said:
I think it’s asinine to state that an hourly employee should “sacrifice” so that someone making 1.6M a year can realize their contract rate.

If that is your moral code, then good luck to you.
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In this situation, I value honesty and honoring your word. You seem to value financial status. I think my values are more honorable compared to yours.
 
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BalledUPfists said:
Yes, that is accurate. We ALL made voluntary sacrifices to stay 💯. We are now running at 92%yoy and trending up to close Q4. My personal sales GP are at 96%yoy. AND we have stronger ties within due to fighting TOGETHER thru this. Call it whatever you want, but it’s been refreshing to experience.
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May i ask what company
 
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At 2-4 (would've been 2-5 if they played A&M on Saturday), one could argue they are vastly overpaid to start with. I know a contract is a contract but we're in exceptional times and the university has significantly less revenue to pay these assistants. They should have taken a small reduction instead of relying on much lower paid people to make up the difference. This is another disappointing aspect to a very disappointing season.
 
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VolInNW said:
I think it’s asinine to state that an hourly employee should “sacrifice” so that someone making 1.6M a year can realize their contract rate.

If that is your moral code, then good luck to you.
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Most of these coaches do not make anywhere near that. Osovet barely makes over $200k. What does hourly pay have to do with it? Osovet would not even make $110 per hour under those terms.
 
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SmokyRiverDog said:
In this situation, I value honesty and honoring your word. You seem to value financial status. I think my values are more honorable compared to yours.
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Again, for the 4th time, it was a request for a VOLUNTARY slight reduction. Some did it (People that played here and have a love for the school) and others chose selfishness.
 
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