To Protect and to Serve II

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MOOOOONEY said:
I’m all for it.

Cops are like Joe Biden. “I don't work for you”

Should police officers have access to a police car off duty?
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Several agencies do not allow police officers who take cruisers home to do personal errands with them off-duty, I have seen officers written up for this before.

I can't speak to EVERY law enforcement agency in the country
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
That is the rub. These so-called law enforcers are enforcing things that are not laws. Their executive orders and mandates.
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Again the rule about the mask isn't the issue, it's what he is suggesting that you can do whatever you want and don't have to follow the rules set forth because it's "public property"
 
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Rickyvol77 said:
Again the rule about the mask isn't the issue, it's what he is suggesting that you can do whatever you want and don't have to follow the rules set forth because it's "public property"
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I'm not even speaking about that particular situation with regards to the mask mandates. We've seen cops in the last 7-8 months doing all kinds of nonsense surrounding these mask mandates.
 
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Carl Pickens said:
You think you’d have gotten arrested too if that was your daughter? I’m pretty sure I would have
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With felony assault and battery of an officer charges. Because I will beat the fool out of....

On the other side of the coin...3 times total now I have worn a mask in what 6 months plus? Had to go in a store in NC where they demanded it, I don't even own a mask, I have a bandana sized piece of T shirt I cut up in the truck the 1st time this happened. My current job is in SC and they don't require masks, or give a damn. That said...while you cannot be arrested for not wearing a mask at YOUR property...you CAN and WILL be arrested for trespassing if you go in a business that requires masks without one...then refuse to leave. That's the law these days, my family will comply with that law because we are law abiding citizens, and MY daughter would never be at a ball field without a mask, knowing the law. Stupid move by apparently Mom to let that happen.

Life will be better for everyone involved though if I never, ever see anyone put their hands on my daughter or wife against their wishes. Boils my blood to think about it.

Edit: just realized he tazed her. I would sadly probably go to prison for a while, because I would have stomped that fat bastard until enough other cops got there to peel me off of him.
 
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Rickyvol77 said:
Your taxes go to FUND Knoxville Police Department, Knox County Schools, the City-County Building, and even parks....they aren't YOURS, and you can't do what you like with them.
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Then who owns publicly funded buildings and property?

The politicians?

The police?

The government?

Of course they belong to tax payers. Guess what? If tax money stopped coming in today these buildings would be closed.
 
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Rickyvol77 said:
Wearing a shirt isn't a law either, but you have to follow their rules or leave
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Pesky little rules for working Joe tax payer.

Is theft a rule or a law?

Is vandalism a rule or a law?

Is arson a rule or a law?

Is assault a rule or a law?

We have to enforce silly little rules but watch as real crimes happen because we have an order to stand down.
 
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marcusluvsvols said:
With felony assault and battery of an officer charges. Because I will beat the fool out of....

On the other side of the coin...3 times total now I have worn a mask in what 6 months plus? Had to go in a store in NC where they demanded it, I don't even own a mask, I have a bandana sized piece of T shirt I cut up in the truck the 1st time this happened. My current job is in SC and they don't require masks, or give a damn. That said...while you cannot be arrested for not wearing a mask at YOUR property...you CAN and WILL be arrested for trespassing if you go in a business that requires masks without one...then refuse to leave. That's the law these days, my family will comply with that law because we are law abiding citizens, and MY daughter would never be at a ball field without a mask, knowing the law. Stupid move by apparently Mom to let that happen.

Life will be better for everyone involved though if I never, ever see anyone put their hands on my daughter or wife against their wishes. Boils my blood to think about it.

Edit: just realized he tazed her. I would sadly probably go to prison for a while, because I would have stomped that fat bastard until enough other cops got there to peel me off of him.
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This is the marcus I know 👍🏼 😁
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MOOOOONEY said:
Pesky little rules for working Joe tax payer.

Is theft a rule or a law?

Is vandalism a rule or a law?

Is arson a rule or a law?

Is assault a rule or a law?

We have to enforce silly little rules but watch as real crimes happen because we have an order to stand down.
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Trespassing is a law
 
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Rickyvol77 said:
Trespassing is a law
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So in your mind it’s ok for law enforcement to stand down and watch cities burn to the ground? And Then enforce an unconstitutional mask order?

It’s funny you say trespassing is a law because when business owners were calling the police because “trespassers” were burning down their businesses the Cops stood down and did nothing.
 
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MOOOOONEY said:
So in your mind it’s ok for law enforcement to stand down and watch cities burn to the ground? And Then enforce an unconstitutional mask order?

It’s funny you say trespassing is a law because when business owners were calling the police because “trespassers” were burning down their businesses the Cops stood down and did nothing.
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I don’t agree with that action but they were ordered to by their police chiefs and mayors. Blame them
 
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MOOOOONEY said:
So in your mind it’s ok for law enforcement to stand down and watch cities burn to the ground? And Then enforce an unconstitutional mask order?

It’s funny you say trespassing is a law because when business owners were calling the police because “trespassers” were burning down their businesses the Cops stood down and did nothing.
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Which clearly indicates that police are fully capable of choosing when to enforce certain laws and when not to.

It is a lot easier for cops to pick on low level stuff like masks and writing tickets,... or even having the element of surprise and numbers on your side to bust down doors at 3:00 in the morning. But when the odds are even and the criminals have numbers or have some type of advantage, the cops are not so willing to step in.
 
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Rickyvol77 said:
Great and all but if they got fired up they couldn’t do anything
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If they got fired they couldn’t do anything? Hell they didn’t do anything is the problem. The tax payers in these cities should defund the police after what they allowed to happen because of “orders”
 
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MOOOOONEY said:
If they got fired they couldn’t do anything? Hell they didn’t do anything is the problem. The tax payers in these cities should defund the police after what they allowed to happen because of “orders”
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Lol the city elected officials elected by the taxpayers are the ones who ordered them to stand down. You can disagree with it and I do as well but it’s not unconstitutional or illegal. They can make stupid decisions and the police chief can order the officers to stand down tactically. Or else the officer can be fired for insubordination or not following a direct order. You want to blame the Police when it’s the local politicians encouraging and supporting the criminals
 
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MOOOOONEY said:
Way more than you do.

I’ve never held a government job.
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Way more...really? I held a government job for 8 years and a private executive job for 13 I’d put my money on having more based simply on the lack of understanding in your posts about how both operate
 
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Rickyvol77 said:
Lol the city elected officials elected by the taxpayers are the ones who ordered them to stand down. You can disagree with it and I do as well but it’s not unconstitutional or illegal. They can make stupid decisions and the police chief can order the officers to stand down tactically. Or else the officer can be fired for insubordination or not following a direct order. You want to blame the Police when it’s the local politicians encouraging and supporting the criminals
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It all comes down to doing the right thing. I have defied my boss when he asked me to commit a crime or do something that is morally or ethically wrong. It’s fantastic that the cops can keep their job because the businesses and tax paying citizens they failed to protect did not, but again it’s all about following orders.

Ricky, I posted a few days ago that if didn’t believe if ordered cops wouldn’t go door to door and confiscate your guns that you were a fool. You stated that the cops would not do that. Are you still willing to say that after this post?
 
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