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If I lay cable in a public restroom, I'm not flushing it. So y'all can sue my rear end. Ain't nothing like leaving a steaming pile in the toilet and seeing someone walk in there afterwards.

So you hang around to watch? 💩

Surprised the next guy isn't a little weirded out with you still being in the stall. 😷
 
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"certain" being the operative term. Those have not been mentioned today as of yet.

The denomination that identify with (or at least church) has never said we are the only way. In fact, I would bet many don't. Just like everything else, the minority can be vocal and what sticks out to people.
 
The denomination that identify with (or at least church) has never said we are the only way. In fact, I would bet many don't. Just like everything else, the minority can be vocal and what sticks out to people.

That is great and I am truly happy that your denomination holds that belief. In my experience most do not...in fact "the only way to heaven is through..." idiom is how most religions propagate.
 
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No denomination is the only way. Christ is the only way.

There is no other way to understand these texts and be correct. You either believe these or you don't. I hope you all do.

"For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but in order that the world might be saved through him. Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only Son of God." John 3:17-18

"Jesus said to him, I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me." John 14:6

"Whoever has the Son has life; whoever does not have the Son of God does not have life." 1st John 5:12
 
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That is great and I am truly happy that your denomination holds that belief. In my experience most do not...in fact "the only way to heaven is through..." idiom is how most religions propagate.

Yea, and in any Christian faith, it's through "Christ." Christ didn't have a denomination.
 
No denomination is the only way. Christ is the only way.

There is no other way to understand these texts and be correct. You either believe these or you don't. I hope you all do.

"For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but in order that the world might be saved through him. Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only Son of God." John 3:17-18

"Jesus said to him, I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me." John 14:6

"Whoever has the Son has life; whoever does not have the Son of God does not have life." 1st John 5:12

Cue quoting scripture. Again. You all have a good night.
 
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Bass I’m curious where you went to seminary?

You don’t have to answer if you’d rather not but I’m assuming with your knowledge you did (maybe I’m wrong here) and I think you’re doing a pretty good job of communicating that in here imo

I have several close friends and others who went to Southern in Louisville
 
Bass I’m curious where you went to seminary?

You don’t have to answer if you’d rather not but I’m assuming with your knowledge you did (maybe I’m wrong here) and I think you’re doing a pretty good job of communicating that in here imo

I have several close friends and others who went to Southern in Louisville

I don't like giving particular details of my life to strangers on the internet. But I do have a graduate level education. Not at Southern, though it is a very good school. I like Al Mohler a lot.
 
I've had two horrible experiences while attending two different denominations of organized religion.

The first happened when I spent a Saturday night with one of my teammates after a basketball tournament. I was around ten. Although, my teammate lived around the Inskip area in Knoxville, we traveled out towards the country, in which direction, I cannot remember, onto a gravel driveway into a gravel parking lot to a tiny church somewhere on the outskirts of the city limits. Most of the time I attended Lincoln Park Babtist Church and to say this church was a culture shock to me would be an understatement. I've heard people say Amen after an occasional part of the preacher's sermon at LPBC. But, at this church, several people stood and screamed Amen after every word the preacher said. People were also standing up and talking crazy and falling back down into their seats. Later on I found out that they were apparently talking in tongues, but the the whole thing scared the sh!t out of me and I ran out of the church crying. I refused to go back in and after church was over I had them take me staight home. After that, I never saw a sermon again, even at LPBC, until I was 20.

I got married at 20 (so dumb) and started to go to Chilhowee Hills Babtist Church with my wife and her family. Played softball for the church and went to Sunday School, very briefly and even to the main sermons. Well, until the preacher had a whole hour sermon why I should vote for George H.W. Bush instead of Bill Clinton. That infuriated me and I never went back. I have been to maybe 3 church services since then over the last 27 years.

So my experiences with organized religion have led me to find faith on my own and doing my own research about religion. I'm not going to lie, I was athiest or maybe agnostic for many years, but within the last 5 years or so, that has changed. I will probably never attend church regularly, but that doesn't mean I can't live by the Golden Rule and believe, at least not imo.
 
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No, it is right because the Lord God said so. He determines what is true because He is truth. Not me or anyone else.

Everything in the bible allegedly took place in a relatively small area of earth, in the middle east around Palestine.

Kind of a jerk move by him to essentially send everyone else who populated the world to eternal damnation simply because they had no way of knowing anything about him.
 
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Everything in the bible allegedly took place in a relatively small area of earth, in the middle east around Palestine.

Kind of a jerk move by him to essentially send everyone else who populated the world to eternal damnation simply because they had no way of knowing anything about him.

1. That’s a very blasphemous statement.

2. God owes us nothing. We sinned against him not the alternative. This alone is enough of a response.

3. God sent Christ into a world when travel was extremely easy for the day. Thanks to Alexsander the Great and the spread of the Greek language communication across cultural boundaries became easy. Further, the development of travel by the Romans helped as well.

4. The apostle Paul took the gospel to the known world at the time.

5. The Bible is the most widely distributed book of all time. So God’s word has reached all over the world.

6. Romans 1 teaches that General revelation, I.e. creation is enough to testify to the existence of God so that men know that God exists and thus they are without excuse. To claim God does not exist is to suppress the truth in unrighteousness.

7. The fact that God has revealed Himself at all is an act of grace.

8. God was active in the world long before the coming of Christ as well.

9. Men are without excuse
 
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Just like my pool, I am told those are money pits.

Hasn't been too bad. Changed the water out this past weekend. Cleaned the tub. Filled it back up. It took forever for it to heat back up. It slowly climbed back up to 101 where we keep it in the summer. It took like 36 hours to go from 80 to 101. Read on internet that the heating coil was probably out. Had a hard time believing this but I noticed in the user manual that it has a safety feature that shuts the heater down first if the temp gets too high and then the pumps if it continues to climb from friction in the system so that suggested to me that the water could heat up slowly even without a heater.

So I decided to make sure the heater was getting power and my trusty multi-meter told me it was getting 220V as it should. I then disconnected the leads and checked for resistance and it showed an open circuit which indicates a bad element. I then hooked it back up and checked for amp draw on both legs of the element and got very little amp draw, like .2 amps. I checked the amp draw on the mains to the hot tub just to verify my meter was working and it showed about 6 amps on each leg.

So.... Can the friction in the system heat the water? Is my element bad? Thoughts.
 
1. That’s a very blasphemous statement.

Maybe, but it was gods plan that I say that. He has a plan for everyone.

2. God owes us nothing. We sinned against him not the alternative. This alone is enough of a response.

:good!:

3. God sent Christ into a world when travel was extremely easy for the day. Thanks to Alexsander the Great and the spread of the Greek language communication across cultural boundaries became easy. Further, the development of travel by the Romans helped as well.

Wait... so the all powerful God, creator of the heavens and earth and the one having dominion over all, needed Alexander the Great and the romans - mere mortal humans - to spread his message?

Nevertheless, doesn't detract from the truth that based on your belief system, all those ignorant to him for reasons beyond their control (because he wasn't able to extend his message outside of a small area in the middle east) were doomed to eternal damnation and burn in hell as we type this.

4. The apostle Paul took the gospel to the known world at the time.

Again, all powerful creator of all things needed a human to spread the word. Makes sense.

5. The Bible is the most widely distributed book of all time. So God’s word has reached all over the world.

Was talking about the past, in my post. But again, all powerful creator of everything needs the trade markets created by man to deliver his message. Okay.

6. Romans 1 teaches that General revelation, I.e. creation is enough to testify to the existence of God so that men know that God exists and thus they are without excuse. To claim God does not exist is to suppress the truth in unrighteousness.

A persons religious background is based most significantly on the indoctrination they receive. And that is largely based on the geographical location in which you were born. Two things you have virtually no control over.

7. The fact that God has revealed Himself at all is an act of grace.

He allegedly revealed himself to only a very small handful of people - as told in a book - and has not revealed himself to anyone in 2000 years.


8. God was active in the world long before the coming of Christ as well.

By "in the world" you mean that small area in the middle east, right?

9. Men are without excuse

I feel no reason to make an excuse for anything.
 
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Bass I don't normally track this stuff so maybe I'm wrong, but I don't think we've ever had a cross word with one another.

You believe, and that's perfect. I have no issue with believers. I used to believe, but don't anymore. Nothing crazy happened, it all just never sat right with me and didn't make a lot of sense. I tried to "fake it" for years and go to church with the family, etc. But ultimately, too much of it just made zero sense to me.

At any rate, not going to keep arguing this here. Apologies if my snarky comments were offensive. I can be dickish.
 
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Bass I don't normally track this stuff so maybe I'm wrong, but I don't think we've ever had a cross word with one another.

You believe, and that's perfect. I have no issue with believers. I used to, but don't anymore. Nothing crazy happened, it all just never sat right with me and didn't make a lot of sense. I tried to "fake it" for years and go to church with the family, etc. But ultimately, too much of it just made zero sense to me.

At any rate, not going to keep arguing this here. Apologies if my snarky comments were offensive. I can be dickish.

I used them earlier towards you also. My apologies as well. I think our “debate” has gone far enough. I know where you’re coming from. May not mean much to you, but I will pray for you. You want to talk to me about anything just ask.
 
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