If Butch loses to Ga Tech out of the gate

If Butch loses to Ga Tech right out of the gate


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Better question. What happens if Butch beats Georgia tech runs the table in the east and winds up stunning Alabama in Atlanta? What will all the nega vols find to ***** about then?

We will complain that someone woke us up from a beautiful dream
 
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Interesting stat considering.

Vandy is 3-2 in their last 5 games vs UT.

Middle is also 3-2 vs Vandy in its last 5 IIRC.
 
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"Miles" is what I would consider the difference between Middle and Bama. Maybe the difference in definition.

'semantics' I understand.

Okay, in my scale, Bama is light years ahead of MTSU.
This seems a rather silly attempt at poking holes though.
When GT knocks off Georgia, it's a "hey, they pulled it out again, good for them."
If MTSU pulls out a victory like that, it's more of a Memphis over Ole Miss, App State over Michigan. Not in the same ballpark.
 
'semantics' I understand.

Okay, in my scale, Bama is light years ahead of MTSU.
This seems a rather silly attempt at poking holes though.
When GT knocks off Georgia, it's a "hey, they pulled it out again, good for them."
If MTSU pulls out a victory like that, it's more of a Memphis over Ole Miss, App State over Michigan. Not in the same ballpark.

Going back UTs last title was interesting. 3 times since 01 was as well.

Crafty.
 
Going back UTs last title was interesting. 3 times since 01 was as well.

Crafty.

Or only looked back 20 years as modern era. Not a whole lot of craftiness involved. If you prefer to cherry pick a certain time line that makes it look less, I'm okay with that. But MTSU is still not going to stack up against them.
Just let me know.
 
Or only looked back 20 years as modern era. Not a whole lot of craftiness involved. If you prefer to cherry pick a certain time line that makes it look less, I'm okay with that. But MTSU is still not going to stack up against them.
Just let me know.

I see.

Just thought it interesting that it stopped exactly then.

I'm closer to an antique than I thought.

Carry on.

They were 4-15 vs UGA from the start of the "modern era" to my existence. Getting old.
 
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Better question. What happens if Butch beats Georgia tech runs the table in the east and winds up stunning Alabama in Atlanta? What will all the nega vols find to ***** about then?

We will be saying he should have done it two years ago beginning with Oklahoma, Florida and Arkansas.

Which by the way is the truth!
 
I see.

Just thought it interesting that it stopped exactly then.

I'm closer to an antique than I thought.

Carry on.

I believe antique is a hundred yrs, hope you're doing well. :)
25 is considered classic.
But posters get scolded for counting games from the 70s and 80s against UF.
You know, for going outside the modern era.
Sports writers use the beginning of the BCS.

But like I said, any timeframe you prefer. 30 yrs, add more GT wins.
More recently, they've won 2 of the last 3 but I didn't want to actually be "crafty", so I tried to pick a neutral and commonly used era.
 
We have a prestige school and they have resources to compete with the best.....guess what fans have gotten in last 10 or so yrs?

Pumpers don't want anything negative or CBJ questioned...kind of how CBJ is...doesn't like to be dissected or questioned.

When ppl try to tell "negas" how to think and observe. ....it makes it worse

I haven't seen anyone actually say they are 100 percent happy with CBJ.

What most of us "pumpers" are saying is that he has done a good job recruiting and building back up a depleted roster. He has changed the culture at UT for the better. He has finally gotten the Florida monkey off our back. Most of us will agree he had made questionable calls during games and seems afflicted with foot in mouth disease.

We are well aware (just as I'm pretty sure CBJ is) that they had the SECe within reach and for various reasons it slipped away.

Most of us are pretty much taking a wait and see approach because unless your name is Haslam or Currie, all the pissing and moaning in the world won't change a thing. We all pretty much know where Jones screwed up just like the negas do, noy just because it's pointed out DAILY, HOURLY TO EVERYONR BUT BECUASE WE WATCHED AND LIVED IT TOO!!!

I was a disappointed as anyone with the Vandy and SC losses but I won't let live in my head rent free and rehash it daily. It's the past. New season , new players, new coaches, and a new outlook.

When I was younger I used to let the losses bother me for days. But then I realized I was placing my happiness within the control of 18 - 22 year old kids and coaches I had never met. So I'm not allowing that to happen. If they lose im still disappointed , if it's a game they should win like Vandy I'm really disappointed and yes I sometimes feel Jones isnt the coach to get us there.

The decision to replace him is made way above my pay grade, I nor you or anyone else in this board had one dang bit of say so.. so why make myself seem miserable to the world to talk to badly constantly about a team and sport that I say I love. I choose not too. It would be easy to point out his mistakes daily and wring my hands and bicker and argue with everyone that seems to see the slightest bit of good in anything. But some of y'all seem obsessed with it.
 
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I believe antique is a hundred yrs, hope you're doing well. :)
25 is considered classic.
But posters get scolded for counting games from the 70s and 80s against UF.
You know, for going outside the modern era.
Sports writers use the beginning of the BCS.

But like I said, any timeframe you prefer. 30 yrs, add more GT wins.
More recently, they've won 2 of the last 3 but I didn't want to actually be "crafty", so I tried to pick a neutral and commonly used era.

10-4.

I actually thought that series was closer than what it was. I am getting old.

Would "recent memory" be 5 years? Lol
 
10-4.

I actually thought that series was closer than what it was. I am getting old.

Would "recent memory" be 5 years? Lol

Lol, for me, that may be beyond recent memory.



Sidenote. Websters lists antique as at least 100 yrs using various customs laws. Of corse they also refer to furniture etc. Not people.
So I say we take that as a win for us experienced folks.
 
Lol, for me, that may be beyond recent memory.



Sidenote. Websters lists antique as at least 100 yrs using various customs laws. Of corse they also refer to furniture etc. Not people.
So I say we take that as a win for us experienced folks.

I 'll sleep better knowing that.

I'm a freaking "classic".
Gonna tell my wife later.
 
I haven't seen anyone actually say they are 100 percent happy with CBJ.

What most of us "pumpers" are saying is that he has done a good job recruiting and building back up a depleted roster. He has changed the culture at UT for the better. He has finally gotten the Florida monkey off our back. Most of us will agree he had made questionable calls during games and seems afflicted with foot in mouth disease.

We are well aware (just as I'm pretty sure CBJ is) that they had the SECe within reach and for various reasons it slipped away.

Most of us are pretty much taking a wait and see approach because unless your name is Haslam or Currie, all the pissing and moaning in the world won't change a thing. We all pretty much know where Jones screwed up just like the negas do, noy just because it's pointed out DAILY, HOURLY TO EVERYONR BUT BECUASE WE WATCHED AND LIVED IT TOO!!!

I was a disappointed as anyone with the Vandy and SC losses but I won't let live in my head rent free and rehash it daily. It's the past. New season , new players, new coaches, and a new outlook.

When I was younger I used to let the losses bother me for days. But then I realized I was placing my happiness within the control of 18 - 22 year old kids and coaches I had never met. So I'm not allowing that to happen. If they lose im still disappointed , if it's a game they should win like Vandy I'm really disappointed and yes I sometimes feel Jones isnt the coach to get us there.

The decision to replace him is made way above my pay grade, I nor you or anyone else in this board had one dang bit of say so.. so why make myself seem miserable to the world to talk to badly constantly about a team and sport that I say I love. I choose not too. It would be easy to point out his mistakes daily and wring my hands and bicker and argue with everyone that seems to see the slightest bit of good in anything. But some of y'all seem obsessed with it.

You had unhappiness? I would be totally ticked off! You would have thought I was a BAMA fan!

From 93-97 I was PO after each Florida game!
 
I haven't seen anyone actually say they are 100 percent happy with CBJ.

What most of us "pumpers" are saying is that he has done a good job recruiting and building back up a depleted roster. He has changed the culture at UT for the better. He has finally gotten the Florida monkey off our back. Most of us will agree he had made questionable calls during games and seems afflicted with foot in mouth disease.

We are well aware (just as I'm pretty sure CBJ is) that they had the SECe within reach and for various reasons it slipped away.

Most of us are pretty much taking a wait and see approach because unless your name is Haslam or Currie, all the pissing and moaning in the world won't change a thing. We all pretty much know where Jones screwed up just like the negas do, noy just because it's pointed out DAILY, HOURLY TO EVERYONR BUT BECUASE WE WATCHED AND LIVED IT TOO!!!

I was a disappointed as anyone with the Vandy and SC losses but I won't let live in my head rent free and rehash it daily. It's the past. New season , new players, new coaches, and a new outlook.

When I was younger I used to let the losses bother me for days. But then I realized I was placing my happiness within the control of 18 - 22 year old kids and coaches I had never met. So I'm not allowing that to happen. If they lose im still disappointed , if it's a game they should win like Vandy I'm really disappointed and yes I sometimes feel Jones isnt the coach to get us there.

The decision to replace him is made way above my pay grade, I nor you or anyone else in this board had one dang bit of say so.. so why make myself seem miserable to the world to talk to badly constantly about a team and sport that I say I love. I choose not too. It would be easy to point out his mistakes daily and wring my hands and bicker and argue with everyone that seems to see the slightest bit of good in anything. But some of y'all seem obsessed with it.

The 26-26 tie to Auburn changed my life.

We(edit) should have won that game.

If should was wood we'd all get laid.

Go Vols!
 
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You had unhappiness? I would be totally ticked off! You would have thought I was a BAMA fan!

From 93-97 I was PO after each Florida game!


Lol.. I can't argue there.. I wouldn't talk to people for 3 days..

I just finally figured out there was more to my life than college football. But it pales in comparison to how I feel about family and friend and the other things important to me.
 
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I haven't seen anyone actually say they are 100 percent happy with CBJ.

What most of us "pumpers" are saying is that he has done a good job recruiting and building back up a depleted roster. He has changed the culture at UT for the better. He has finally gotten the Florida monkey off our back. Most of us will agree he had made questionable calls during games and seems afflicted with foot in mouth disease.

We are well aware (just as I'm pretty sure CBJ is) that they had the SECe within reach and for various reasons it slipped away.

Most of us are pretty much taking a wait and see approach because unless your name is Haslam or Currie, all the pissing and moaning in the world won't change a thing. We all pretty much know where Jones screwed up just like the negas do, noy just because it's pointed out DAILY, HOURLY TO EVERYONR BUT BECUASE WE WATCHED AND LIVED IT TOO!!!

I was a disappointed as anyone with the Vandy and SC losses but I won't let live in my head rent free and rehash it daily. It's the past. New season , new players, new coaches, and a new outlook.

When I was younger I used to let the losses bother me for days. But then I realized I was placing my happiness within the control of 18 - 22 year old kids and coaches I had never met. So I'm not allowing that to happen. If they lose im still disappointed , if it's a game they should win like Vandy I'm really disappointed and yes I sometimes feel Jones isnt the coach to get us there.

The decision to replace him is made way above my pay grade, I nor you or anyone else in this board had one dang bit of say so.. so why make myself seem miserable to the world to talk to badly constantly about a team and sport that I say I love. I choose not too. It would be easy to point out his mistakes daily and wring my hands and bicker and argue with everyone that seems to see the slightest bit of good in anything. But some of y'all seem obsessed with it.

"Negas" recognized he cruited good too.....but so far we only got MCB and Taxslayer championships!? Their is more to it than cruitin.

Look, championship type coaches don't worry bout what others.think. They planning on turning their ballers loose. CBJ was to worried about what the papers and media said about him. He wants us to be proud that we even make.bowls. That's fine if your Cincy or measuring against Dooley. At UT....we are neither.

I really hope im wrong and he proves.me wrong. "Prove" is the key word
 
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"Negas" recognized he cruited good too.....but so far we only got MCB and Taxslayer championships!? Their is more to it than cruitin.

Look, championship type coaches don't worry bout what others.think. They planning on turning their ballers loose. CBJ was to worried about what the papers and media said about him. He wants us to be proud that we even make.bowls. That's fine if your Cincy or measuring against Dooley. At UT....we are neither.

I really hope im wrong and he proves.me wrong. "Prove" is the key word

Lol, I don't know why but I can't help but like you.
 
For the sake of accuracy, prior to last year's anomaly with App State, the Vols under Jones have won their season openers by 45, 31 and 29 points. Hardly a long list of "openers I'm not prepared for" as you put it.


We've played a bunch of nobodys in our openers under Butch and won with a fumble recovery last year and the Bowling Green score was not indicative of how the game actually went. They torched our DBs and threw for over 400 yds. Team looked unprepared and the VN posts during that game reflect that. Everyone thought so. I guess we should give Butch credit for handling Austin Peay and Utah State. Yippie
 
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We will be looking for a new coach, and not because we lost to Tech...But because of what it would signal for the rest of the season...and it wouldn't be pretty.
 
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