Will this finally settle the Manning - Brady debate?

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butchna said:
Brady settled it already...a few Super Bowls ago.
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Your analysis is naive. Brady plays QB on a great team but only 3 NFL MVPs and only 3 times All-Pro.
Otto Graham played 10 years, got to Championship Game every time. Went 7-3.
Bart Starr got to 6 Championship Games. Went 5-1.
 
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99gator said:
The thing I find humorous is everyone talks about how great the patriots are and I think their roster has been terrible for the last 7 or so years.

Flavor of the week rb’s, wr’s like Danny amendola that do squat anywhere else, no name defenders like rob ninkovich.

Most gms would not trade their roster for NE’s except for Gronk, Brady, flowers and a couple of o-lineman
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How about the Patriots turning Trent Brown, yes THAT Trent Brown into one of the best Left Tackles in the game. A forgotten journeyman footnote guard while at Florida during the Muschamp years.
 
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peaygolf said:
I will only say that it was a completely different era. Bradshaw may not have been as good in today’s game. But, those guys wouldn’t have been as good in that era. It’s why saying “Goat” is really impossible. Hell Otto Graham and Sammy Baugh did things nobody else could do during their eras.

TB and PM are the best in this generation. Not sure that can be honestly debated.
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I agree, football was a different game back then.
 
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PManning is 5-time MVP and 7-time All-Pro.
Untouchable records.
Brady has played 19 years and has only 3 of each.
He's rightly been adjudged to be a good QB on a great team. But not in PManning's class.
 
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WiseOlVol said:
Your analysis is naive. Brady plays QB on a great team but only 3 NFL MVPs and only 3 times All-Pro.
Otto Graham played 10 years, got to Championship Game every time. Went 7-3.
Bart Starr got to 6 Championship Games. Went 5-1.
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Your reading comprehension skills are weak. The response was to the Brady-Manning debate. That was settled a few super bowls ago.
 
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WiseOlVol said:
PManning is 5-time MVP and 7-time All-Pro.
Untouchable records.
Brady has played 19 years and has only 3 of each.
He's rightly been adjudged to be a good QB on a great team. But not in PManning's class.
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What a great Regular Season player.
 
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If Tom Brady never emerges. Peyton probably wins 5 or 6 Super Bowls maybe.

If Tom Brady is the Michael Jordan of football.
Then Peyton is the Lebron James.

If Tom Brady is 100 on the scale.
Peyton is a 99.
Montana is a 94.

There is a gap between 2nd and 3rd and yet Tom is undoubtedly number 1. JMO.

Watch Tom's games at Michigan. That dude many times was thrust out there because their big shot Drew Henson couldn't get his team out of the hole. And He'd come in to lead them to victory. Tom's been doing that type of greatness even before NFL. He's the BEST QB of all time.
And if he didn't exist. Then Peyton Manning undoubtedly would have been the best of all time by a wide margin. Jmo...
 
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peaygolf said:
They are being realistic. There could be an argument made about best ever, but Manning isn’t in it. IMO
Top 10 without a doubt, but not top 4.
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You're on an island.
7-times All-Pro
5-times NFL MVP
Brady only 3 of each after 19 years.
 
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If Manning had the Defenses Brady has had all of his career, Manning would be just as successful. Just saying.
 
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SteensVol said:
Its not even a contest! Manning changed the whole game! Others followed!
He revolutionized calling plays and audibles at a time when OC’s were calling everything.
Now all QB’s imitated him - even Brady!
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Brady has never called his owns plays. Manning always did.
 
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WiseOlVol said:
Your analysis is naive. Brady plays QB on a great team but only 3 NFL MVPs and only 3 times All-Pro.
Otto Graham played 10 years, got to Championship Game every time. Went 7-3.
Bart Starr got to 6 Championship Games. Went 5-1.
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You need to google naive. It ain’t whatever you think it is. 😉 Joe Montana won MVP twice...Elway once. Brett Favre that much better than either of them?
 
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