What QB do you want from the transfer portal next year?

#76
#76
JMSqb11 said:
I’d take Nico back if Jerry Neuhiesel came with him. Call me crazy but if Heupel isn’t ready to rock with Merk / GMac next year and wants the starter to come via the portal, go talk to Nico.

The one thing Heupel thrives on is having a QB for multiple seasons. I think it’s clear Nico is gonna play 2 more years.

Obviously Big Nick needs to be told he can’t be involved with any negotiations or talks. That would be my one demand from the Tennessee side. Nico definitely isn’t getting that money back from us so we’d have leverage on a very low number.
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Nah
 
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#78
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JMSqb11 said:
So all those issues came in his first year of playing. Also - our record with him was 11-3 as a starter. Such a moronic idea….

Once again, just say you’re too emotional and have hurt feelings over the topic of Nico. It would make the discussion simpler.
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No one wants pajama boy back but a few. He's done here. Period. Come up with someone realistic.
 
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SouthpawTN said:
Probably none but I wouldn’t recruit high school qbs anymore. Brandon would be the last one I recruit. No reason to gamble on one that might be a bust anyway. Pay for the proven commodity.
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With the success Indiana is having with the transfer portal, is there really a benefit of caring about recruiting rankings or 5-star qbs?
 
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JMSqb11 said:
11-3 record in his first calendar year of playing.

He’s now experienced and had multiple years in a S&C program and guess what, would have zero learning curve while getting LESS dollars than what he initially was.

Just say you have hurt feelings instead of saying “he’d be awful here”…. The record doesn’t back that up.
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No no no, check the stats. I was over him before he left. It’s not hurt feelings. I thought he sucked since Arkansas.
 
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JMSqb11 said:
I’d take Nico back if Jerry Neuhiesel came with him. Call me crazy but if Heupel isn’t ready to rock with Merk / GMac next year and wants the starter to come via the portal, go talk to Nico.

The one thing Heupel thrives on is having a QB for multiple seasons. I think it’s clear Nico is gonna play 2 more years.

Obviously Big Nick needs to be told he can’t be involved with any negotiations or talks. That would be my one demand from the Tennessee side. Nico definitely isn’t getting that money back from us so we’d have leverage on a very low number.
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You’re Crazier that a Chinese whorehouse. Tennessee would bring back Kiffin & Pearl in a package deal before that happens.
 
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NighthawkVol said:
Correct.

If we get a portal transfer it’ll be for depth. Like Harrison Bailey at Florida this year.
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This.

I hope Gmac beats out Brandon handily and FB gets a redshirt. GMac looked good this year in limited action and we will be set for at least 3 seasons with good QB play this way. Brandons 26class can win a Title at UT. Gmacs 2025 class can too if we catch some breaks and injuries dont kill us like this year
 
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Hank Bukowski said:
I just want Boo Carter to transfer.
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Hopefully Hood stays. If he does:

Hood and Gibson start at Cornerback

Redmond and a half dozen other guys compete for Nickel

We grab a pair of Safeties from the portal and at least 1 of them is starter along with Farooq OR both new guys start.

Our secondary will be MUCH improved if these things happen. Boo is a liability on the field AND in life. He got to go
 
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JMSqb11 said:
Nico tried to negotiate his current deal and we said no. He then pouted about it and looked elsewhere for greener pastures. Turns out there wasn’t one. Still doesn’t change the face we need to replace our quarterback and having an experienced QB with a minimal learning curve who has zero negotiating power might be worth looking at. Once again, tell me you don’t make business decisions without telling me
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I understand it may sound an appealing "business" decision experience wise but it would be a horrendous decision IMO for a couple of different reasons.

1. The message Heupel and administration sent to the team this off-season would be worthless even if Nico publicly apologized. Very quickly could turn into a locker room nightmare and not to mention if his teammates even want him back.
Plus, Nico isn't a natural leader and I don't think he is actively trying to be a vocal leader and I think those are some of the qualities that really separate players like Aguilar.

2. He would be operating on a razor thin chain and would have to play heisman level from the get-go as the fans would turn on him as soon as he throws his first interception.
 
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Big Cheese Offspring said:
I understand it may sound an appealing "business" decision experience wise but it would be a horrendous decision IMO for a couple of different reasons.

1. The message Heupel and administration sent to the team this off-season would be worthless even if Nico publicly apologized. Very quickly could turn into a locker room nightmare and not to mention if his teammates even want him back.
Plus, Nico isn't a natural leader and I don't think he is actively trying to be a vocal leader and I think those are some of the qualities that really separate players like Aguilar.

2. He would be operating on a razor thin chain and would have to play heisman level from the get-go as the fans would turn on him as soon as he throws his first interception.
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Not really. The issue in the locker room would have been had we given into his demands to avoid him leaving in the spring.

But that didn't happen and he went elsewhere, got less money, and it hasn't worked out. So if we have to replace Aguilar and don't want to roll with a rookie, that's what I would do. But if and only if his dad is told to go pound sand and obviously his deal is drastically way less.

Nico may very well enter the portal if Nueheisel isn't kept with the new staff at UCLA and he won't be able to command a lot.

From a business decision - Heupel getting an experienced QB in general with experience of his system, the price could be right. Tennessee would have virtually all the leverage and Nico would have none.
 
#93
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JMSqb11 said:
Because he had success here, knows the system, lost a big sweetheart deal and we literally have all the leverage.

It also doesn’t hurt we need a QB next year.

I’m just gonna go out on a limb and say most here are refusing to acknowledge that college football is a professional sport now and roster moves are strictly a business decision. I can think of a million reasons why a team needing to replace their quarterback would see value in an experienced QB that has zero negotiating leverage and wants to improve their position.

Pretty safe that many on here don’t actually run a business or make business decisions
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I’m a hiring manager for a fairly large company that most, if not all, would know if name dropped…

I would consider Nico a quit without notice. This would make him ineligible for rehire regardless of demonstrated abilities or lack thereof.

Secondly, I’ve only had this happen a handful of times, you come to my office demanding more money or you leave…unless you can show me very clear evidence to back up your demand…let me get that voluntary separation letter for you.

There is absolutely no way I would recruit or even consider rehiring someone that fits either scenario.
 
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JMSqb11 said:
Because he had success here, knows the system, lost a big sweetheart deal and we literally have all the leverage.

It also doesn’t hurt we need a QB next year.

I’m just gonna go out on a limb and say most here are refusing to acknowledge that college football is a professional sport now and roster moves are strictly a business decision. I can think of a million reasons why a team needing to replace their quarterback would see value in an experienced QB that has zero negotiating leverage and wants to improve their position.

Pretty safe that many on here don’t actually run a business or make business decisions
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Tennessee Vols Football isn’t McDonalds.

The QB position is basically your on field COO.

Nico doesn’t have the QB IQ to be a good COO.

I would say it wouldn’t be good for the locker room to bring him back.
 
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rev_vol said:
I’m a hiring manager for a fairly large company that most, if not all, would know if name dropped…

I would consider Nico a quit without notice. This would make him ineligible for rehire regardless of demonstrated abilities or lack thereof.

Secondly, I’ve only had this happen a handful of times, you come to my office demanding more money or you leave…unless you can show me very clear evidence to back up your demand…let me get that voluntary separation letter for you.

There is absolutely no way I would recruit or even consider rehiring someone that fits either scenario.
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I've had people leave our business for what they view as better opportunities and comeback because it didn't work out and they produce just as they did before they left. But sure, let's make up analogies.....

As long as you win, no one cares. And the Nico experience here came with a 11-3 record. And there is no rational is saying rolling dice with a freshman QB would somehow be a better choice over reuniting with a former player under certain conditions.

And once again in your analogy, just say you don't care about production / continuity.
 
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MOOOOONEY said:
Tennessee Vols Football isn’t McDonalds.

The QB position is basically your on field COO.

Nico doesn’t have the QB IQ to be a good COO.

I would say it wouldn’t be good for the locker room to bring him back.
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Yet in his first year was the COO of a 10-2 playoff team.

And the locker room narrative is the dumbest thing I've heard. I would agree with you if it was under the same conditions he left under aka multiple millions of dollars after pulling that stunt. This is professional sports and a business.

He would be lucky to command high 6 figures if he transferred from UCLA.
 
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SouthpawTN said:
Probably none but I wouldn’t recruit high school qbs anymore. Brandon would be the last one I recruit. No reason to gamble on one that might be a bust anyway. Pay for the proven commodity.
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Honestly, I tend to agree with ya. If you look at the top QB's of the portal era, few end up at their original school of choice.

It's almost the exact opposite problem MLB teams face with free agents. In their case, they end up paying $$ for the decline. When it comes to QB's, you're paying for development while someone else reaps the rewards.
 
#100
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TXbenVol said:
With the success Indiana is having with the transfer portal, is there really a benefit of caring about recruiting rankings or 5-star qbs?
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Cignetti didn't cherry pick players from the portal for success he brought all those guys with him to Indiana when he left JMU.
 
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