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chargervol said:
LOL, I was with you until that part. Maybe in 1915. Any issues I have ever had, have been over a law I have never heard. Or at least never seen any officer enforce before.

I once received a citation for crossing the double yellow while going around one of the road mowers. Less than 2 weeks later, I was pulling a trailer with new rock for my landscaping. Having to drive slowly, the officer behind me passed in the no passing zone. I looked over and guess who I saw driving. In his defense, he stopped less than a mile later.... at the cafe where they gather for lunch each day.

While in NC, I also picked up a statue for a friend. I was their visiting friends. Because he gave me a few bucks for doing so, I was supposed to have a DOT number on my vehicle for crossing state lines for a retail financial transaction??? Yeah, the laws are real simple these days.
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No offense but that is basic divers ED 101.. Now I get why they have signs on the road saying not to do that..
 
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Volsfaninva917 said:
Lets stick with criminal law, not traffic violations.
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OK.... But given I was trying to dispute you on complications in new laws, not law enforcement, I thought it better to use traffic violations.
I guess I could have gone with the time when I was 17 and two officers made me sit on my couch while they took every valuable in my apartment but I thought that might shine more of a negative light. I have known some good cops also so I didn't want to do that. Now I have but hey, at least it's not about my petty traffic encounters anymore.
 
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FLVOL_79 said:
No offense but that is basic divers ED 101.. Now I get why they have signs on the road saying not to do that..
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So you are telling me that you follow the mowers all the way down the highway? Or you never cross the line while putting a safe distance between you and the mail carrier? I'm sorry but I don't believe you.


Edit: After checking back, I see people are actually liking your post. So I will call b.s. on them also.

Kids walking down the side of the road, close to the line in a rural area? You guys are saying you don't cross the center to make sure you don't make contact? You are either lying or have much larger problems than anything on a message board.
 
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Darth_Shiveman said:
Unthinkable cast majority of our cops are good, honest people.


But that doesn't change the fact that a small minority HS been able to (largely) get away with abusing their power recently.


It's all a very complicated issue with no easy fix or answer
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Oh yea no doubt i worked with a few guys like you speak of. And ill be the first to say they were POS and it seemed the got off on the job. And its also unfortunate that a few of them are still employed there. But the majority of the guys i worked with were good, honest, blue collared people. My whole issue witb paradox is he tells people not to judge him on his past but wants to slam every law enforcement official in this country due to a select few. He also started slamming men and women of the military about a month ago in the thread that talked about an ex vol and the Nashville officer but has sinced changed his tone.
 
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Volsfaninva917 said:
Lets stick with criminal law, not traffic violations. Its obvious you didn't know that law existed so i don't think anyone can fault you for that. But in the case of paradox he knew the actions he was committing were against the law and chose to move forward any how because I assume the money was good and I assume it made him feel like a bad ass (which based on his post he seems proud of his criminal record, wears it like a medal.) Then he gets caught and even though it was through his choices that got him there he wants to blame to police, the system and everyone else who is not him. Then he brags about his college degree which in its self is a whole other beast. That same system that he blames his crimes on housed and fed him for the duration of his sentence. And then that same system gave him a college education for free. Now lets examine that for a moment, a kid graduates from high school gets into his dream college so excited ready to go. But said kids parents dont make enough to pay for school and make to much to get help. Now that kid graduates college 100k in debt after not breaking any laws amd doing what he had to do to achieve his goals. Now the other kid graduates high school but doesn't apply to college and is above starting out at the bottom of a job and working his way up. So he sells drugs, hey its easy money right? Then he gets busted and starts blaiming everyone but then decides to do a 180 and get his life straight (which i commend paradox for) so the system gets him a college education and you the tax payer pays for. Said kid leaves prison with a 4 year degree and 0 debt, now he is at a slight disadvantage with a felony on his record but he should get along fine with that degree. So who got the short end of the stick the law abiding kid or the kid caught up in "the system"?
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My first response was before your additional edit. I'm honestly not getting in the conversation between you two. My concern is as much with the law makers as anything. I'm far from some anti-govt. nut but the thickness of the stack of new laws each year bothers me. Individually they seem harmless enough but the total amount of things hidden in each stack, are slowly taking away the freedoms we took for granted when we were younger. I know the basic laws are easy to follow but the amount of laws people are unaware of are growing exponentially.
 
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chargervol said:
My first response was before your additional edit. I'm honestly not getting in the conversation between you two. My concern is as much with the law makers as anything. I'm far from some anti-govt. nut but the thickness of the stack of new laws each year bothers me. Individually they seem harmless enough but the total amount of things hidden in each stack, are slowly taking away the freedoms we took for granted when we were younger. I know the basic laws are easy to follow but the amount of laws people are unaware of are growing exponentially.
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Yea i did a late edit i guess i should have expanded my first response and thats my fault. Yea i dont blame you, here in the Commonwealth of Virginia there are new traffic laws introduced every 6 months and only about 70% are really advertised for everyone to really know. And we both know its a money maker for the state and thats not right, at least in my eyes it isnt. But i understand where you were coming from.
 
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Volsfaninva917 said:
Yea i did a late edit i guess i should have expanded my first response and thats my fault. Yea i dont blame you, here in the Commonwealth of Virginia there are new traffic laws introduced every 6 months and only about 70% are really advertised for everyone to really know. And we both know its a money maker for the state and thats not right, at least in my eyes it isnt. But i understand where you were coming from.
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Agreed. Not sure of your age but when I was young, the blatant b.s. laws were often ignored by officers. The latest generation or so, seems to have a high # over-enforcing. Most likely directed to because of the money making you spoke of. Always follow the money:yes:
 
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chargervol said:
Agreed. Not sure of your age but when I was young, the blatant b.s. laws were often ignored by officers. The latest generation or so, seems to have a high # over-enforcing. Most likely directed to because of the money making you spoke of. Always follow the money:yes:
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I was pretty laid back, I always treated people how I would want to be treated. I got myself out of some bad situations by respecting people and not being a dick. But I did have a handful of run ins where people just wanted to have a go no matter what and those were in large part to alcohol.
 
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Volsfaninva917 said:
I was pretty laid back, I always treated people how I would want to be treated. I got myself out of some bad situations by respecting people and not being a dick. But I did have a handful of run ins were people just wanted to have a go no matter what and those were in large part to alcohol.
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LOL... Trust me, I understand. We had a friend in college (Paul) who was a great guy... when sober. Drinking, he wanted to fight everyone in sight. Two officers came out one evening and of course he chose to not comply. They were great guys though and said "We can take care of it or you guys can". Another friend - Rick, turned and knocked him (Paul) out with one strike. The officer just smiled and said "That should do it, you guys enjoy the second half".
 
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Volsfaninva917 said:
...I knew alot of bad cops but i also knew a hell of alot more good ones.
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Volsfaninva917 said:
...i worked with a few guys like you speak of. And ill be the first to say they were POS and it seemed the got off on the job. And its also unfortunate that a few of them are still employed there. But the majority of the guys i worked with were good, honest, blue collared people. My whole issue witb paradox is he tells people not to judge him on his past but wants to slam every law enforcement official in this country due to a select few...
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I don't want to speak for anyone else, but; my take is that the reason quite a few people have issues with LEO and lump them ALL in with the bad apples is because of your 2 statements. Just curious; what did you and the good, honest, blue collared people you worked with do to correct the behavior of the POS? The perception is that "good cops" will stand up and protect the POS cops; "Thin Blue Line" of us against them. The few that do, end up ostracized, fired, or disgusted and leave the force and that leaves "no such thing as a good cop" in the minds of many since they either have left or allow the bad ones to continue; making them just as bad.
JMHO
 
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OrangeSquid said:
I don't want to speak for anyone else, but; my take is that the reason quite a few people have issues with LEO and lump them ALL in with the bad apples is because of your 2 statements. Just curious; what did you and the good, honest, blue collared people you worked with do to correct the behavior of the POS? The perception is that "good cops" will stand up and protect the POS cops; "Thin Blue Line" of us against them. The few that do, end up ostracized, fired, or disgusted and leave the force and that leaves "no such thing as a good cop" in the minds of many since they either have left or allow the bad ones to continue; making them just as bad.
JMHO
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Twice I turned in my peers for poor decisions they made, one was eventually forces to resign. The other time it was a supervisor and in return I was eventually written up. I have since left the force and it is a tight brotherhood, im looked at as if I have 8 eyes on my head now when I see those guys. But im happy with my choice to leave and enjoy every minute of my current career.
 
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paradox89 said:
Don't worry, I won't. I've dealt with multiple thefts and breakins without ever filing a police report. The only time I will ever be in need of of police is if I'm in a car wreck, and I don't think they have much choice but to respond regardless of my lack of respect for Leo's. And I clearly stated that not all coppers are low life's, and I def don't think the same of the military. Yes, a lot of people in the military are uptight tools, but they do defend our country and deserve every penny they make since they're actually doing something that makes a difference.

Also, I love how people want to attack me for belittling cops when I'm not in the minority when it comes to the police situation in this country. They're the punch line of our nation right now, and yall may not mind the fact that cops are blatantly committing hate crimes and getting away with it in many cases, but a good portion of the nation does.
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As a son of a current police officer, and as someone who is going to school to school to have a career in law enforcment as well.. This is all I have to leave..
http://youtu.be/T7MAO7McNKE
 
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I believe the children are our future. The old people sure as hell don't seem to be gearing up for the job.
 
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OrangeSquid said:
I don't want to speak for anyone else, but; my take is that the reason quite a few people have issues with LEO and lump them ALL in with the bad apples is because of your 2 statements. Just curious; what did you and the good, honest, blue collared people you worked with do to correct the behavior of the POS? The perception is that "good cops" will stand up and protect the POS cops; "Thin Blue Line" of us against them. The few that do, end up ostracized, fired, or disgusted and leave the force and that leaves "no such thing as a good cop" in the minds of many since they either have left or allow the bad ones to continue; making them just as bad.
JMHO
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Perception, as we all know, is not always reality. When you read about a "POS" LEO that gets arrested, who do you think investigated and arrested them? Most "bad" cops, in the view of "good" cops are those who are generally apathetic and unwilling to do their job. Not criminals. So when another cop says "bad" cop they are generally referring to the lazy do nothing, not a rogue criminal cop. When a criminal cop is identified it is usually a quick process of suspension, investigation, and termination.
 
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UTodd01 said:
^ first to call the cops when he hears his house settling.
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This is always what people say back to such things and I don't understand it. I've never called the cops in my life and with video recording bringing to light just how cops tackle issues, I likely never will. I keep what I need to resolve such issues in each nightstand, under the bed, and in the closet. I'll call the cops to come clean up the mess.
 
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VolFan4Life87 said:
This is always what people say back to such things and I don't understand it. I've never called the cops in my life and with video recording bringing to light just how cops tackle issues, I likely never will. I keep what I need to resolve such issues in each nightstand, under the bed, and in the closet. I'll call the cops to come clean up the mess.
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I venture to say that you are young and dumb. those things in both night stands can't handle every situation. you sound like a real dumb ass.
 
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Every time I was given a ticket, I deserved it. In my youth, when I was "picked up", I deserved it. Own what you do, you might not like it, but, ask yourself, did I deserve it.

I love the police, they have helped me when no one else would, and are willing to lay down their life to protect me.

This is also why I love the brave men and women in our military. Thank God for them, then go to sleep.
 
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Nasavol said:
Every time I was given a ticket, I deserved it. In my youth, when I was "picked up", I deserved it. Own what you do, you might not like it, but, ask yourself, did I deserve it.

I love the police, they have helped me when no one else would, and are willing to lay down their life to protect me.

This is also why I love the brave men and women in our military. Thank God for them, then go to sleep.
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it's a shame that I can only like this once. I don't understand criminals that take part in criminal behavior, and feel some kind of way when they get arrested.
 
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