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agent|orange said:
Who actually care about politics?

Korean disdain for the presence of American troops is about the dumbest angle anyone can take in protesting the American hegemony.

I'm almost at the point of having the US pull out and letting Korea go back to the wolves. Like that dumbass Psy guy. Yeah, let him go back there and sing this:



You want North Korea in your backyard? You want to be owned by China? Be careful about biting the hand that feeds you, SK. You're benefiting from this partnership far far more than you're suffering.
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i had always heard they liked/didn't mind having us there, at least the government.
 
#5,978
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agent|orange said:
Who actually care about politics?

Korean disdain for the presence of American troops is about the dumbest angle anyone can take in protesting the American hegemony.

I'm almost at the point of having the US pull out and letting Korea go back to the wolves. Like that dumbass Psy guy. Yeah, let him go back there and sing this:



You want North Korea in your backyard? You want to be owned by China? Be careful about biting the hand that feeds you, SK. You're benefiting from this partnership far far more than you're suffering.
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I didn't say that shaggy college students who care about politics are necessarily right.
 
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volprof said:
I didn't say that shaggy college students who care about politics are necessarily right.
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Eh, they're more driven by bias and an agenda than they are about "politics".

It's the same over here.

But, with that said, as of right now AFAIK the majority of South Koreans have a positive opinion of the US.
 
#5,980
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volprof said:
Yeah, that guy's life expectancy just took a major hit.
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He was walking the green mile the second he stood up.

I still don't think the Putin fans have any idea how different that society is from ours. Putin's reign is only marginally less scary than that of the Kim's in DPRK.
 
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Septic said:
He was walking the green mile the second he stood up.

I still don't think the Putin fans have any idea how different that society is from ours. Putin's reign is only marginally less scary than that of the Kim's in DPRK.
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I was reading some statistics about journalism, press freedom, and threats to journalists a month or so ago, which ranked Russia as the fifth most dangerous country in the world for the press. If I recall correctly, around 17 or 18 journalists have been murdered in that country since the mid-90s.
 
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#5,982
Septic said:
He was walking the green mile the second he stood up.

I still don't think the Putin fans have any idea how different that society is from ours. Putin's reign is only marginally less scary than that of the Kim's in DPRK.
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Yeah, this would go over well in Russia:

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7FTF4Oz4dI[/youtube]
 
#5,983
#5,983
Think what you want of Steven Colbert but it does take some serious cajones to stand in front of the people you're directly attacking.

It also shows that the US still protects and allows direct and harsh criticism of the government. It obviously didn't matter because the savior that was elected to overturn a lot of those NSA programs that made Bush unpopular and he only enhanced them...

but it does show that we can say what we want to.
 
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agent|orange said:
Think what you want of Steven Colbert but it does take some serious cajones to stand in front of the people you're directly attacking.

It also shows that the US still protects and allows direct and harsh criticism of the government. It obviously didn't matter because the savior that was elected to overturn a lot of those NSA programs that made Bush unpopular and he only enhanced them...

but it does show that we can say what we want to.
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To be fair, shaggy press guy was given a platform to say what he wanted as well.

He just may end up dead. That's all.
 
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volprof said:
To be fair, shaggy press guy was given a platform to say what he wanted as well.

He just may end up dead. That's all.
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And the only thing that happened to Colbert was he wasn't invited back to another Correspondents Dinner.

Maybe this guy will just happen to be on a plane filled with Ukrainians that are considering avenues to join the EU and NATO that just happens to crash.
 
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Velo Vol said:
Interesting.

Why Would the Saudis Deliberately Crash the Oil Markets? Simple: to undermine Tehran. | Foreign Policy

The U.S. won't object to this plan. Bonus: Russia, Venezuela
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So, if you are willing to not only believe but seem to be agreeing with the idea of the Saudis and US working together to manipulate markets with the intent of hurting other countries, then would it not be within the realm of possibility that the US and Saudis would also create conditions of war and conflict in a country (for example, Syria) if it meant achieving some obscure goal?
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
So, if you are willing to not only believe but seem to be agreeing with the idea of the Saudis and US working together to manipulate markets with the intent of hurting other countries, then would it not be within the realm of possibility that the US and Saudis would also create conditions of war and conflict in a country (for example, Syria) if it meant achieving some obscure goal?
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I don't know what's going on with oil prices. It's a mystery to me.

As for Syria, what's the obscure goal?
 
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Funny.

Putin Cites Claim About U.S. Designs on Siberia Traced to Russian Mind Readers

According to an investigation by a former Moscow Times correspondent, Anna Smolchenko, the idea that Ms. Albright was jealous of Russia’s natural resources can be traced to a December 2006 interview with Boris Ratnikov, a retired major general from the Russian secret service. General Ratnikov told Rossiyskaya Gazeta that his colleagues in the service’s secret mind-reading division had read Ms. Albright’s thoughts in 1999, just before the United States-led military intervention in Kosovo that she had championed.

According to the general, his colleagues had detected a “pathological hatred of Slavs” in Ms. Albright’s mind and that “she was indignant that Russia held the world’s largest reserves of natural resources.”

Asked by Ms. Smolchenko to explain how the mind reading had worked, General Ratnikov recalled that the team had studied photographs of Ms. Albright. “By tuning in on her image,” he said, “our specialists were able to glean these things.”
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Rasputin_Vol said:
So, if you are willing to not only believe but seem to be agreeing with the idea of the Saudis and US working together to manipulate markets with the intent of hurting other countries, then would it not be within the realm of possibility that the US and Saudis would also create conditions of war and conflict in a country (for example, Syria) if it meant achieving some obscure goal?
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Isn't that kinda what sanctions are? As far as starting wars,every could mtry has interests (mother Russia included) and will passively support certain groups in fights if it advances their interests. All countries do this, its naive to think that they don't. Russia has done this as much if not more than America. Look at the communist movements within Latin America, Africa,and parts of Asia. Their support of groups has started warsin which genocide was a weapon by those they supported.
 
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SergeantVol said:
Isn't that kinda what sanctions are? As far as starting wars,every could mtry has interests (mother Russia included) and will passively support certain groups in fights if it advances their interests. All countries do this, its naive to think that they don't. Russia has done this as much if not more than America. Look at the communist movements within Latin America, Africa,and parts of Asia. Their support of groups has started warsin which genocide was a weapon by those they supported.
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Wait... if we want to talk about the Russian actions as the USSR was in full stride during the cold war, then I would agree with you. But the Russians of today are not communists. In fact, I would argue that America behaves in a more leftist/totalitarian manner than Russia today. I see that a lot of you are wanting to fight the old cold war battles with Russia when the political dynamics both here and there are completely different. We have a gun grabber, big govt supporting, gay marriage supporting leftist in The Land of The Free, and Russia has a man that believes in the 2nd Amendment, low taxes (15% income tax rate), defending religious freedom (Russian Orthodox attacked by P*ssy Riot) and believes in one man/one woman marriage (to help boost the population).

Turn the page... its not 1964. Get out of this cold war mentality because you are missing significant details about both of us.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
Wait... if we want to talk about the Russian actions as the USSR was in full stride during the cold war, then I would agree with you. But the Russians of today are not communists. In fact, I would argue that America behaves in a more leftist/totalitarian manner than Russia today. I see that a lot of you are wanting to fight the old cold war battles with Russia when the political dynamics both here and there are completely different. We have a gun grabber, big govt supporting, gay marriage supporting leftist in The Land of The Free, and Russia has a man that believes in the 2nd Amendment, low taxes (15% income tax rate), defending religious freedom (Russian Orthodox attacked by P*ssy Riot) and believes in one man/one woman marriage (to help boost the population).

Turn the page... its not 1964. Get out of this cold war mentality because you are missing significant details about both of us.
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You're a joke.

Supporter of freedom, my rear hole.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
We have a gun grabber, big govt supporting, gay marriage supporting leftist in The Land of The Free, and Russia has a man that believes in the 2nd Amendment, low taxes (15% income tax rate), defending religious freedom (Russian Orthodox attacked by P*ssy Riot) and believes in one man/one woman marriage (to help boost the population).
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Sure, he's a modern ambassador of the Enlightenment.
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Maybe he'll broadcast a declaration of human rights on state-controlled TV.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
Wait... if we want to talk about the Russian actions as the USSR was in full stride during the cold war, then I would agree with you. But the Russians of today are not communists. In fact, I would argue that America behaves in a more leftist/totalitarian manner than Russia today. I see that a lot of you are wanting to fight the old cold war battles with Russia when the political dynamics both here and there are completely different. We have a gun grabber, big govt supporting, gay marriage supporting leftist in The Land of The Free, and Russia has a man that believes in the 2nd Amendment, low taxes (15% income tax rate), defending religious freedom (Russian Orthodox attacked by P*ssy Riot) and believes in one man/one woman marriage (to help boost the population).

Turn the page... its not 1964. Get out of this cold war mentality because you are missing significant details about both of us.
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This exactly! The haters can always find an excuse. It's not uncommon to hear references to the Cold War era, Stalin, Lenin, Bolsheviks when they have no legit argument.
 
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Velo Vol said:
How has she been silenced?

Very scarce on specifics to support her claims.
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Constant threats, banishment from Ukrainian airwaves, deprived from speaking before the Ukrainian Parliament and shooting at her vehicle...is that enough?

So because this isn't via MSM, it's unbelievable?
 
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Pacer92 said:
So because this isn't via MSM, it's unbelievable?
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It would help if it was reported somewhere other than .ru websites. Or if she didn't have over-the-top rhetoric like this:

Everyone who calls for peace in Ukraine, immediately written authority of enemies of the people, as it were, for example, in Germany, 30-40 years of the last century, or in the days of McCarthyism in the United States policy.
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