To Protect and to Serve II

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#3,901
Grand Vol said:
lol
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When you lose the debate...

It's a pity when simple common sense in a tense and emotional moment like this was all that was needed from the cops.

But instead, we engage in CA lingo and riddles. Sadly, the cop was trying to cover his azz (I suppose) by speaking unclear and indirectly, yet, made his job and other cops jobs more difficult going forward.

Just a silly and ridiculous excerise in futility by this cop.
 
#3,903
#3,903
Grand Vol said:
Well, there's your first mistake.

But why do I get the feeling you think all cops are arrogant jerks?
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Because in my experience with them they are. I haven't had so much as a speeding ticket in the past 30 years, but the interactions I have had with them they have been redneck *******s.
 
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#3,904
Grand Vol said:
Good grief, he was professional to the max. He wasn't arrogant or overbearing, but those two weren't making it any easier on him. He told them, practically point blank, how to get their car out. Did he poke a little fun at them for the whole Category 4 Hurricane thing? Yeah, but considering it's been a Cat 4 or greater since it hit the Caribbean and has been tracking towards Florida for almost five days. It's a pretty lame excuse.
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"practically"

Glad to see you finally come clean and admit he didn't give clear instructions. Even more satisfying to see that you admit that cop was being a jerk just so he could get a cheap thrill, instead of protecting and serving.

You're no different than this silly azz cop. Both of you could have ended to conversation a long time ago.

Lastly, it's good to know that cops get their rocks off by toying around with unstable and panicked people in their weakest moments.
 
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Grand Vol said:
And funny thing, the ones who were overreacting in that incident were the two that approached the cops. He was being very polite and professional, giving them advice as best he could without saying directly what they should do. He kept his calm and kept asking "do you understand what I'm saying?" while they were getting irate.

I would like to see what TYT or Tommy Sotomayor would say about this.
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People die everyday by not following cop directions and you cop apologists are right there defending the nonsense.

But I suppose now a panicked family is being expected to use theit sarcasm meter on the eve of a hurricane landing.

Just let the people leave.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
People die everyday by not following cop directions and you cop apologists are right there defending the nonsense.

But I suppose now a panicked family is being expected to use theit sarcasm meter on the eve of a hurricane landing.

Just let the people leave.
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No, I am a cop and I must protect this barricade in to and out of this garage at all costs. You are not allowed to take your car out of this garage because you might use it to actually drive to safety which is wrong.
 
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DEFENDTHISHOUSE said:
It's not that deep.
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And it's not even worth arguing over any longer. People see what they want to see and hear what they want to hear. But damned if we've ever ended up on the same side in this subject matter before.

But overall, sorry for dragging you into this.
 
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#3,910
Grand Vol said:
Well, there's your first mistake.

But why do I get the feeling you think all cops are arrogant jerks?
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Again, most people that are panicking and in a "fight or flight" mentality don't have the focus or time for subtle hints. Military and survivalist training may sharpen those skills, but for the average person with a screaming mom/wife/family anxious to evacuate, there was no reason to be illusive.

You are not defending this cops obfuscation and toying around, are you?
 
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InVOLuntary said:
I don't think he was being a jerk. I think he was telling them to wait until they left then get their car. He was probably told that once the baracades went up no one was to enter or exit. He understood their plight and was trying to give them a way out. They were so angry they were not listening to what he was saying. That was just my observation.

Could he have point blank told them to move the baracades and get their car? Sure. But if he did and something happened he could have gotten in trouble. The way he did it he protected himself from disobeying an order. Jmo
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Again, given the circumstances and conditions, who is at fault here: a panicking group or the jerk cop?

Just let the people leave...
 
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VolStrom said:
No, I am a cop and I must protect this barricade in to and out of this garage at all costs. You are not allowed to take your car out of this garage because you might use it to actually drive to safety which is wrong.
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Which means you still haven't watched the video nor listened to what he said. But, I'm done arguing because it seems at least two of you aren't smart enough to see what happened. And no amount of explanation can convince you otherwise.

Enjoy being in that 0.1% of willful ignorance.
 
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InVOLuntary said:
Could he have point blank told them to move the baracades and get their car? Sure. But if he did and something happened he could have gotten in trouble. The way he did it he protected himself from disobeying an order. Jmo
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F@@$ the silly azz order.

You still don't see the problem? It was silly for them to be barricade Nguyen in the first place. Even more ridiculous to not just let these people leave instead of wasting time playing charades and riddles with people that are trying to evacuate.
 
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Grand Vol said:
Which means you still haven't watched the video nor listened to what he said. But, I'm done arguing because it seems at least two of you aren't smart enough to see what happened. And no amount of explanation can convince you otherwise.

Enjoy being in that 0.1% of willful ignorance.
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Think what you want. I know what I saw and I know what I've experienced in my life.
 
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And in before Ras claims victory, yet again, by saying, yet again, I "lost" the debate.

If by bowing out because others aren't smart enough to look objectively and rationally at this, I'll accept that "defeat."
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
F@@$ the silly azz order.

You still don't see the problem? It was silly for them to be barricade Nguyen in the first place. Even more ridiculous to not just let these people leave instead of wasting time playing charades and riddles with people that are trying to evacuate.
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So...

Why was it barricaded to begin with?
 
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#3,917
Grand Vol said:
And in before Ras claims victory, yet again, by saying, yet again, I "lost" the debate.

If by bowing out because others aren't smart enough to look objectively and rationally at this, I'll accept that "defeat."
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No, you will take this lose for finally admitting that the cop was being a jerk. It only took 4+ hours for you to admit it.

You're dumber than that cop over the 4 mins he lost.
 
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InVOLuntary said:
Could he have point blank told them to move the baracades and get their car?
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He pretty much did. But anything short of tearing off his badge and hurling it in the garbage before ripping the barricade down while screaming "eff the man!" will never make some happy.
 
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#3,919
Grand Vol said:
And in before Ras claims victory, yet again, by saying, yet again, I "lost" the debate.

If by bowing out because others aren't smart enough to look objectively and rationally at this, I'll accept that "defeat."
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I'm not stupid. You have a bias towards cops and I'll give you that. It's damn hard to look at these videos and and say, yeah the cops are right, but for some reason you defend them?
 
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#3,920
Rasputin_Vol said:
No, you will take this lose for finally admitting that the cop was being a jerk. It only took 4+ hours for you to admit it.

You're dumber than that cop over the 4 mins he lost.
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I never admitted he was a jerk. I have stated, will continue to state and can recognize those two weren't "panicked" or "fight or flight", just ****ing stupid.

And I also know how to spell "loss."
 
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Grand Vol said:
I never admitted he was a jerk. I have stated, will continue to state and can recognize those two weren't "panicked" or "fight or flight", just ****ing stupid.

And I also know how to spell "loss."
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Just admit the cop was a jerk and should have said go get your car and we're good.
 
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#3,922
Grand Vol said:
He pretty much did. But anything short of tearing off his badge and hurling it in the garbage before ripping the barricade down while screaming "eff the man!" will never make some happy.
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It wouldn't have been that serious. He wouldn't have even been on social media if he would have just exercised a little common sense.

But again, cops are "duty bound"... no room for common sense. Just follow orders.
 
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VolStrom said:
I'm not stupid. You have a bias towards cops and I'll give you that. It's damn hard to look at these videos and and say, yeah the cops are right, but for some reason you defend them?
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To look at this as anything other than the simplification of what it is, i.e. "We can't move the barrier, you can't move the barrier while we're here, but hey, we're leaving, make your own decision" is stupidity.

I'm not defending the cop in this instance as he went as far as he probably could without, again, saying it outright or drawing a damn picture. I am saying those morons needed to actually listen to what was being said instead of being offended and not paying attention. The cop repeats the whole "we're leaving and you make an adult choice" several times. And instead of getting hit with the lightning bolt of realization of what he was saying, the moron drives over the curb instead of waiting five minutes for them to leave and moving the barriers (the adult choice) and leaving.

And somehow you think you need to side with the ones that aren't smart enough to figure this out? It's like the movies where someone says "now, I can't tell you about this because you don't have clearance. But I happen to have the file right here on my desk and I'm going to the bathroom and to grab a cup of coffee while I leave you here alone with it."

And I'm the dumb one?
 
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