To Protect and to Serve II

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#3,851
Rasputin_Vol said:
No, you fail to see the error in judgement that this cop made. This is not a time for a cop to be engaging in riddles and clever word play.

You can't even bring yourself to admit that even if what you're saying is true, that it was inappropriate, unprofessional and silly. Stop playing...
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lol

Keep up the good fight. If you want this to be your Alamo, by all means, keep defending stupidity.

"I can't move it and you can't move it while we're here. But we're leaving and make your own choice once we leave."

Hmm, is there really a riddle in that? Or is it a subtle suggestion to remove the barrier once they leave since they can't stop them? I feel sorry you just aren't smart enough to see this.
 
#3,852
#3,852
Grand Vol said:
Go ahead and chalk up your emotional and moral victory and do your little dance. You sure got me, Ras. I'm just not smart enough to see the logic of a policeman saying "I'm leaving and you do what the **** you want to do after I leave" and someone arguing with them.
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And I fail to see the logic in police having to waste their time to put up a bogus barricade and then going back and forth with civilians about not taking it down or when they could take it down.

The cop wasted about 4 minutes of his life by going back and forth instead of just telling them clearly and directly to leave. Because as we know, civilians get killed everyday by not following clear and direct instructions from cops. "Put your hands up", followed immediately by "Show me your I.D."... you know, that kind of clear and direct language that gets civilians killed as they reach in their back pockets...
 
#3,853
#3,853
Rasputin_Vol said:
And I fail to see the logic in police having to waste their time to put up a bogus barricade and then going back and forth with civilians about not taking it down or when they could take it down.

The cop wasted about 4 minutes of his life by going back and forth instead of just telling them clearly and directly to leave. Because as we know, civilians get killed everyday by not following clear and direct instructions from cops. "Put your hands up", followed immediately by "Show me your I.D."... you know, that kind of clear and direct language that gets civilians killed as they reach in their back pockets...
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This is where you know you lost the argument. You have to reach to other incidents to try to prove your point.

And the cop didn't waste four minutes of his life. The two idiots wasted four minutes arguing with him when he said he was going to leave. And instead of watching him leave while waving and saying "eff you, pig" as he drove off and then moving the stuff out of the way as he subtly suggested, you think he should have moved the barricade instead. You really aren't grasping the concept behind what was said, what they could do and that the cop didn't care either way. Again, I can't make this any dumber for you to understand.

Maybe DTH will be along to help. Not that he's dumb at all, but perhaps he has a way of phrasing it differently to get into that feeble brain of yours so you can understand this simple concept.
 
#3,854
#3,854
Grand Vol said:
This is where you know you lost the argument. You have to reach to other incidents to try to prove your point.

And the cop didn't waste four minutes of his life. The two idiots wasted four minutes arguing with him when he said he was going to leave. And instead of watching him leave while waving and saying "eff you, pig" as he drove off and then moving the stuff out of the way as he subtly suggested, you think he should have moved the barricade instead. You really aren't grasping the concept behind what was said, what they could do and that the cop didn't care either way. Again, I can't make this any dumber for you to understand.

Maybe DTH will be along to help. Not that he's dumb at all, but perhaps he has a way of phrasing it differently to get into that feeble brain of yours so you can understand this simple concept.
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And you still don't get it. Why even put the barricade up in the first place?

Secondly, why even engage in an argument on the streets when these people are just anxious to leave?

You can't even bring yourself to answer those simple azz questions, which were the catalyst for all of this in the first place... both actions performed by this cop.
 
#3,855
#3,855
Rasputin_Vol said:
And you still don't get it. Why even put the barricade up in the first place?

Secondly, why even engage in an argument on the streets when these people are just anxious to leave?

You can't even bring yourself to answer those simple azz questions, which were the catalyst for all of this in the first place... both actions performed by this cop.
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Funny. I already said I didn't know why the barricade was up. Then I asked you to tell us. Which you didn't.

Now, who's avoiding that question? Do you know why the barrier was up?

And you ask why even engage in an argument with those two idiots? Because the cop was trying to be helpful in explaining to them exactly what to do once they left. And somehow, they just weren't getting it even after he tried to give it several "wink, wink, nudge, nudge" attempts that he could have cared less once he left. So, the idiot with the camera potentially damages his vehicle by driving over the curb instead of waiting until the cops left and just taking the barrier down.

Furthermore, it would have allowed others to leave as well. But, you really didn't think that far into it because your "eff cops" radar came on and you can't see just how ****ing stupid those two were.

Again, I hope one of the normal posters that have issues with cops can come in and explain how ridiculous you look right now.
 
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#3,856
#3,856
Of the incidents posted, I'm much more concerned with the cop walking up on the guy on the motorcycle with his gun drawn.

For the record, if the cops aren't currently manning barricades, you should move them out of your way, especially in a parking garage.
 
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DEFENDTHISHOUSE said:
Of the incidents posted, I'm much more concerned with the cop walking up on the guy on the motorcycle with his gun drawn.

For the record, if the cops aren't currently manning barricades, you should move them out of your way, especially in a parking garage.
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If the cop had told you what he told those two mouthbreathers at the garage, what would your response have been?
 
#3,866
#3,866
DEFENDTHISHOUSE said:
For the record, if the cops aren't currently manning barricades, you should move them out of your way, especially in a parking garage.
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That conversation/interaction with the cops didn't initiate as the cop handing out subtle hints. The civilian at the very beginning asked the cop clearly if they could move the barricade.

Point is, this was an exchange that the cops clearly allowed to start and engage in. Plus, it was a waste of time to even put up the barricades in the first place.

Asking these people to read into tea leaves or some subtleties when they are clearly hyped up and irate is just silly.
 
#3,868
#3,868
Rasputin_Vol said:
That conversation/interaction with the cops didn't initiate as the cop handing out subtle hints. The civilian at the very beginning asked the cop clearly if they could move the barricade.

Point is, this was an exchange that the cops clearly allowed to start and engage in. Plus, it was a waste of time to even put up the barricades in the first place.

Asking these people to read into tea leaves or some subtleties when they are clearly hyped up and irate is just silly.
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Ras, you're reading way too much into this. When the cops leave, move the barricades. He chose to run over the curb. No harm, no foul.


I don't understand why you are so upset with this incident.
 
#3,869
#3,869
Grand Vol said:
Funny. I already said I didn't know why the barricade was up. Then I asked you to tell us. Which you didn't.

Now, who's avoiding that question? Do you know why the barrier was up?
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First off, never answered my question as to why it was there. Secondly, I never saw you ask me that. Thirdly, what difference does it make why they did it? It was still a silly decision to make, given the circumstances.
 
#3,870
#3,870
DEFENDTHISHOUSE said:
Ras, you're reading way too much into this. When the cops leave, move the barricades. He chose to run over the curb. No harm, no foul.


I don't understand why you are so upset with this incident.
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The entire incident didn't even need to happen to begin with. And again, this is yet another illustration of police not deescalating a situation, but instead, feeding into it and allowing to go on for way long than needed.

When the cops saw these guys coming up, he should have just let them leave, no need for a confrontation or engaging in something that could have gotten out of hand.
 
#3,872
#3,872
Rasputin_Vol said:
The entire incident didn't even need to happen to begin with. And again, this is yet another illustration of police not deescalating a situation, but instead, feeding into it and allowing to go on for way long than needed.

When the cops saw these guys coming up, he should have just let them leave, no need for a confrontation or engaging in something that could have gotten out of hand.
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Go back and watch the video. The cop clearly says "you guys are adults, whatever you do is up to you. We're leaving here shortly."

That's pretty clear to me.
 
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#3,873
#3,873
Rasputin_Vol said:
First off, never answered my question as to why it was there. Secondly, I never saw you ask me that. Thirdly, what difference does it make why they did it? It was still a silly decision to make, given the circumstances.
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Right here:

Rasputin_Vol said:
Again I ask, what was the purpose of even putting up the barricade in the first place?
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Grand Vol said:
Have no clue. Do you?
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To which you avoided and didn't answer because you knew you had no answer. But, as you can see, I answered the question and didn't avoid it. Haven't the foggiest why they blocked it off and wouldn't even try to guess why.

Though I'm sure you'll have some sort of crazy reason like checking for back child support or taillights being out or loose cigarettes in the trunk. Probably something along those lines.
 
#3,875
#3,875
Rasputin_Vol said:
Interesting that you chose not to comment about the road rage cop assaulting the motorcyclist.
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Interesting I poke my head back into this thread to point out what idiots the two in Fort Lauderdale were to which you got all kinda of crazy with the Cheese Whiz.

And now you want my opinion on a whole lot more posts by you? I'm honored.
 
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