To Protect and to Serve II

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apevol said:
Lol, I'd never heard of it so I looked it up. Adam Sandler movies have always been hit or miss for me.
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It's kind of "meh." Not bad, but not great. Worth the time of your life you'll never get back.
 
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Holy crap, you guys got to 229 posts without me? I'm slacking. Tarantino may have gone too far before, but he's making a lot of sense here:

I live in the Hollywood Hills and when I see a cop driving around there I actually assume he has my best interest at heart and he has the interest of my property at heart. I think if you go to Pasadena they’d say the same thing, and I think if you’d knock on doors in Glendale, they’d say the same thing.

[But] go down to Century Boulevard and start knocking on apartment doors in Inglewood, and they’re not going to say the same thing. I think all that was put into place 30 years ago when we declared a War on Drugs and started militarizing the police force. You’re not going to have the police force representing the black and brown community if they’ve spent the last 30 years busting every son and daughter and father and mother for every piddling drug offense that they’ve ever done, thus creating mistrust in the community.

At the same time, you should be able to talk about abuses of power. You should be able to talk about police brutality and what, in some cases as far as I’m concerned, is outright murder and outright loss of justice, without the police organization targeting you in the way that they have done me.
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Quentin Tarantino Responds to Police Threat: ?You Should Be Able to Talk About Abuses of Power? - The Daily Beast
 
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volbeast33 said:
I went to read his speech and he loses all credibility when he still lists Michael Brown as someone that was wronged by police.
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He may not be very informed on the particulars of that case, but that doesn't mean you should ignore the reasoned points he makes.
 
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n_huffhines said:
He may not be very informed on the particulars of that case, but that doesn't mean you should ignore the reasoned points he makes.
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I ignore anything that he has to say...I agree on a couple of his points but he is still an idiot actor/director trying to have a voice. Talks about his conscience while lining his pockets with movies that glorify violence.
 
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volbeast33 said:
I ignore anything that he has to say...I agree on a couple of his points but he is still an idiot actor/director trying to have a voice. Talks about his conscience while lining his pockets with movies that glorify violence.
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He makes movies. Movies don't kill people.
 
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http://m.nydailynews.com/news/crime...black-suspect-jaw-acquitted-article-1.2459206



“These split-second decisions and judgments ... not only were they justifiable, they were, in fact, necessary,” Liguori said.

The case hinged on whether Dickerson was in fact moving to a prone position or if, as the defense team claimed, he was in a “sprinter’s position” that would have allowed him to lunge or pull a weapon. He is shown with his hands on the ground just before the kick in the dashcam footage.
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About 95% (probably more really) of bad things that happen to people are preceded by them doing something that was, at a minimum, ill-advised and, most likely, really stupid.

19 out of 20 of my patients I can look at their history and point to the exact behavior that landed them in the ICU. Of those, 19 of 20 absolutely knew that said behavior was bad for their health and did it anyway.

It's so strange to be that some instances it's completely okay to point out the stupidity that landed someone in a bad spot and others you'd be crucified for even thinking it.

If some lady with a strong family history gets diagnosed with stage 4 breast cancer and dies, nobody is gonna be like "I'm not saying it's her fault but... She was kind of dumbass. If she should've had regular mammograms and cut out her several carcinogenic behaviors and she'd probably still be alive. All I'm saying is, my wife eats healthy, exercises, and gets screened regularly and guess what? She's never gotten stage 4 breast cancer."

Yet when someone does something stupid that leads to them being murdered (which is exactly what that was btw... Murder) by the police, people can't wait to point out the numerous missteps that lead to their death and how stupid they are. So yeah, the guy's a dumbass. I don't think you'll get much argument about that. That doesn't really matter when discussing the actions of the cop that murdered him.

And FTR I've had an aunt and grandmother die of breast cancer and my mom is a survivor. So I'm not comparing some thug running from the police to women who get breast cancer. I am saying that 9 out of 10 cases could be either prevented or caught extremely early with some effort and healthy living. Yet nobody feels the need (as it would make them a douchebag if they did) to point that out every time someone is diagnosed.
 
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Cdywolfe said:
About 95% (probably more really) of bad things that happen to people are preceded by them doing something that was, at a minimum, ill-advised and, most likely, really stupid.

19 out of 20 of my patients I can look at their history and point to the exact behavior that landed them in the ICU. Of those, 19 of 20 absolutely knew that said behavior was bad for their health and did it anyway.

It's so strange to be that some instances it's completely okay to point out the stupidity that landed someone in a bad spot and others you'd be crucified for even thinking it.

If some lady with a strong family history gets diagnosed with stage 4 breast cancer and dies, nobody is gonna be like "I'm not saying it's her fault but... She was kind of dumbass. If she should've had regular mammograms and cut out her several carcinogenic behaviors and she'd probably still be alive. All I'm saying is, my wife eats healthy, exercises, and gets screened regularly and guess what? She's never gotten stage 4 breast cancer."

Yet when someone does something stupid that leads to them being murdered (which is exactly what that was btw... Murder) by the police, people can't wait to point out the numerous missteps that lead to their death and how stupid they are. So yeah, the guy's a dumbass. I don't think you'll get much argument about that. That doesn't really matter when discussing the actions of the cop that murdered him.

And FTR I've had an aunt and grandmother die of breast cancer and my mom is a survivor. So I'm not comparing some thug running from the police to women who get breast cancer. I am saying that 9 out of 10 cases could be either prevented or caught extremely early with some effort and healthy living. Yet nobody feels the need (as it would make them a douchebag if they did) to point that out every time someone is diagnosed.
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I guess it's immediate dumbassery vs prolonged denial
 
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Daniel Holtzclaw won't be around for a while.


Holtzclaw found guilty of 18 counts in sexual assault case | Oklahoma City - OKC - KOCO.com


Daniel Holtzclaw, who turned 29 Thursday, has been found guilty on 18 charges, which included rape, sexual battery and other charges. The jury recommended 263 years in prison for Holtzclaw.


He was found not guilty on 18 charges.


Holtzclaw was accused of raping or sexually victimizing 13 women.


The victims said they met Holtzclaw while he was on duty, and prosecutors say the ex-officer intimidated them into not reporting his crimes. Holtzclaw's lawyer portrayed him as a model officer and questioned the credibility of the women who testified against him.
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Crew said:
....that "problem" is one of the only reasons I was even aware of this case.

Good luck with all of that anger though.


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Says the man that supported faux outrage. Her faux outrage wasn't what he did, that's bad enough, it was turning it into some racist matter with an all-white jury that was looking to get him off. Um, nope! And yes, that is a problem. Guess what? This will no longer be news. No more race-baiting. Better move on to more fake racial angles.
 
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tumscalcium said:
Says the man that supported faux outrage. Her faux outrage wasn't what he did, that's bad enough, it was turning it into some racist matter with an all-white jury that was looking to get him off. Um, nope! And yes, that is a problem. Guess what? This will no longer be news. No more race-baiting. Better move on to more fake racial angles.
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....what in the hell are you talking about?

How exactly did I support the outrage? ...you are the only one here calling some random woman you don't know a *****.

I heard about the case, it caught my interest, saw a reminder about the deliberation, remembered the cop thread, saw the verdict and posted the news.

full. stop.
 
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Crew said:
....what in the hell are you talking about?

How exactly did I support the outrage? ...you are the only one here calling some random woman you don't know a *****.

I heard about the case, it caught my interest, saw a reminder about the deliberation, remembered the cop thread, saw the verdict and posted the news.

full. stop.
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Read the link and educate yourself. Note it was prior to the verdict. Clearly the jury must apologize for not creating a reason to burn anything down.

Understand the "Problem" I spoke of before you act like you know what you're talking about.
 
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volbeast33 said:
Exactly he needs to stick to making movies... I don't care what he, Alec Baldwin or any of the rest opinions on anything else.
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So you have an opinion and share it openly but he shouldn't because he makes movies? It's not his fault his stature provides for him to have a platform to speak on his beliefs.
 
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tumscalcium said:
Read the link and educate yourself. Note it was prior to the verdict. Clearly the jury must apologize for not creating a reason to burn anything down.

Understand the "Problem" I spoke of before you act like you know what you're talking about.
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I read the piece and understood that it was written from the writers perspective to speak on what had taken place and what could happen if he was somehow acquitted by the jury.

To act as if this was an impossible outcome wasn't in anyone's best interest. She did her job, whether you agree with it or not is irrelevant. If you don't like it, don't read it.

It's an internet article, it won't hurt you, it didn't hurt him and it won't cost us recruits before signing day.

Since you obviously have anger issues amongst who knows what else; I won't waste time trying to convince you of anything outside of your narrow perspective.
 
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volfanhill said:
So you have an opinion and share it openly but he shouldn't because he makes movies? It's not his fault his stature provides for him to have a platform to speak on his beliefs.
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Yeah I hate listen to that idiot.... Alec Baldwin..... Michael Moore and all the rest.
 
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