To Protect and to Serve II

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#127
ClearwaterVol said:
It was everywhere last year. 20/20 even did a few shows about some of the more egregious cases.
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Did they point out that the total amount seized exceeded the total amount stolen through burglary in 2014?

Between 1989 and 2010, U.S. attorneys seized an estimated $12.6 billion in asset forfeiture cases. The growth rate during that time averaged +19.4% annually. In 2010 alone, the value of assets seized grew by +52.8% from 2009 and was six times greater than the total for 1989. Then by 2014, that number had ballooned to roughly $4.5 billion for the year, making this 35% of the entire number of assets collected from 1989 to 2010 in a single year. According to the FBI, the total amount of goods stolen by criminals in 2014 burglary offenses suffered an estimated $3.9 billion in property losses. This means that the police are now taking more assets than the criminals.
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#128
#128
DEFENDTHISHOUSE said:
What I meant was, it will come to a point that these victimless crime laws will have to be repealed.
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I'm just saying that the cost of running and maintaining a prison industrial complex would sooner or later be one of the factors that motivates the govt to ease up on enforcing these laws.
 
#129
#129
Rasputin_Vol said:
That is an interesting comment because when those 30 Mizzou football players did exactly what you colorfully described right here, you said:



I guess as long as people continue to bang their heads and work within the system, you have no issue. But as soon as they get frustrated with the system and "take their government back and reclaim their power", you have a problem.
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Those 30 mizzu football players and the rest of their cohorts didn't become politically active, nor did they take back their government or power. They acted as spoiled brats over nothing. In reality they accomplished nothing, they hurt their cause (if they ever had one).
 
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hog88 said:
Those 30 mizzu football players and the rest of their cohorts didn't become politically active, nor did they take back their government or power. They acted as spoiled brats over nothing. In reality they accomplished nothing, they hurt their cause (if they ever had one).
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Wrong, you just disagree with the cause.
 
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hog88 said:
What did they accomplish? Did they manage to bring a ground swell of support to their cause? Answers are nothing and no.
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When you take an unpopular stance on something, you probably will not get a ground swell of support. That is why it is called "unpopular". Which is also why working in the present political system may not be an option for some causes because they will be going against popular view.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
When you take an unpopular stance on something, you probably will not get a ground swell of support. That is why it is called "unpopular". Which is also why working in the present political system may not be an option for some causes because they will be going against popular view.
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I agree that in some cases the only recourse is to work outside the system, hence my view that we the citizens were given the right to revolt within the bill of rights.

Using the UM example was just a piss poor example to use.
 
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hog88 said:
I agree that in some cases the only recourse is to work outside the system, hence my view that we the citizens were given the right to revolt within the bill of rights.

Using the UM example was just a piss poor example to use.
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I guess I dont understand how that is a bad example. Didnt the president get fired?
 
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#137
hog88 said:
Did he deserve to be fired? Did they change anything for the better?
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The people demonstrating felt he did. You have just argued that racism is dead and these kids don't have it that bad. In other words you just marginalize their opinion.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
I guess I dont understand how that is a bad example. Didnt the president get fired?
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And?

It seems the fact that the guy got fired over accusations with ZERO evidence to back them up is lost of some of y'all.

The 60's civil rights struggle has been romanticized in academia at all levels. Kids nowadays struggle with not having...a struggle. So when you don't have a struggle you do what lefties and women do well, make one up! It's almost like if there isn't something to complain about then life isn't worth living. These idiots live to complain and "win" absolutely hollow victories.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
I guess I dont understand how that is a bad example. Didnt the president get fired?
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He didn't do anything wrong. The racist students wanted the white guy out because they felt he didn't do enough to curb alleged racial instances that he had no control over. They also thought that they can just make ridiculous demands and that he absolutely had to comply with them.

He resigned because he didn't want to have anything to do with that dumpster fire and no one can blame him.
 
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tumscalcium said:
He didn't do anything wrong. The racist students wanted the white guy out because they felt he didn't do enough to curb alleged racial instances that he had no control over. They also thought that they can just make ridiculous demands and that he absolutely had to comply with them.

He resigned because he didn't want to have anything to do with that dumpster fire and no one can blame him.
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Hogwash, he handled that situation poorly and tossed the match to ignite that dumpster fire.

It seems that some white folks can't stand to see blacks influence the system. Better get used to it. There's only about 2 more decades of being the majority in this country.
 
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ClearwaterVol said:
Hogwash, he handled that situation poorly and tossed the match to ignite that dumpster fire.

It seems that some white folks can't stand to see blacks influence the system. Better get used to it. There's only about 2 more decades of being the majority in this country.
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Lol what? Blacks are never going to be the majority in this country. And if they ever were who would they blame their problems on?

And whites will be the majority for decades to come. The only thing that will change is that there will be more minorities combined than whites, which doesn't change much considering its going to likely be lots of hispanics (mostly white people). New studies however are pointing to a surge in Asian immigration and them leaping the hispanics. So...yeah.
 
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hog88 said:
Did he deserve to be fired? Did they change anything for the better?
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The people spoke and they got the desired result. Which is essentially what you had stated people need to do to get change made.

I'm not saying the guy deserved it or not, I didnt know all the details and really get tired of a lot of the whining that most liberals do myself. That is another debate all together.
 
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ClearwaterVol said:
Hogwash, he handled that situation poorly and tossed the match to ignite that dumpster fire.

It seems that some white folks can't stand to see blacks influence the system. Better get used to it. There's only about 2 more decades of being the majority in this country.
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Might not be the majority but will still have 90% of the money. In the end which one really matters?
 
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