To Protect and to Serve II

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#12,826
zeppelin128 said:
Since when does prior criminal history matter at all for folks? And I am really getting tired of you dishing out death and judgment dependent on your opinion. If you can not prove guilt for someone. Frankly, shut the hell up.
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Prove guilt? The video showed the felonies that the suspect committed. Are you saying she didn’t?
 
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VolStrom said:
I wonder how many people would have died if she was just allowed to go on her way?
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I'm not saying he couldn't have done things differently but this take is a little naive in it's absoluteness.

Let's say the police adopt the strategy of calling off chases when someone behind the wheel gets reckless and puts others and themselves at risk. More people would attempt this to get away and have the police call off chases, with more people driving reckless would that not likely result in the likelihood of people losing control and hurting/killing others?

I'm sure there's some happy medium but In this case Im but really that upset, she made multiple decisions resulting in her driving her vehicle directly towards an officer, I'm aware of what that would likely bring if I were in her shoes.
 
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KB5252 said:
I'm not saying he couldn't have done things differently but this take is a little naive in it's absoluteness.

Let's say the police adopt the strategy of calling off chases when someone behind the wheel gets reckless and puts others and themselves at risk. More people would attempt this to get away and have the police call off chases, with more people driving reckless would that not likely result in the likelihood of people losing control and hurting/killing others?

I'm sure there's some happy medium but In this case Im but really that upset, she made multiple decisions resulting in her driving her vehicle directly towards an officer, I'm aware of what that would likely bring if I were in her shoes.
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Looks to me that this culminated in the shooting happening on a dirt/gravel road. I don't know about where you live, but where I live traffic on these kinds of road is pretty sparse and usually not a problem to just drive into a field if need be. You cops aren't going to convince anyone that this guy should have killed this woman.
 
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VolStrom said:
Looks to me that this culminated in the shooting happening on a dirt/gravel road. I don't know about where you live, but where I live traffic on these kinds of road is pretty sparse and usually not a problem to just drive into a field if need be. You cops aren't going to convince anyone that this guy should have killed this woman.
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I'm not a cop, in fact quite the opposite but I won't go into that here.

The point isn't where this happened, though that should factor in to some degree but where was she going to go? A local two lane highway? Interstate? Could she have killed others, the officer? The answer to those questions is yes, and had he but taken a step back and stood his ground he would have likely been hit.
 
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KB5252 said:
I'm not a cop, in fact quite the opposite but I won't go into that here.

The point isn't where this happened, though that should factor in to some degree but where was she going to go? A local two lane highway? Interstate? Could she have killed others, the officer? The answer to those questions is yes, and had he but taken a step back and stood his ground he would have likely been hit.
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This argument is like an endless loop. The officer had no reason to chase this woman until it culminated in a shooting over not having a license plate, end of story.
 
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KB5252 said:
I'm not saying he couldn't have done things differently but this take is a little naive in it's absoluteness.

Let's say the police adopt the strategy of calling off chases when someone behind the wheel gets reckless and puts others and themselves at risk. More people would attempt this to get away and have the police call off chases, with more people driving reckless would that not likely result in the likelihood of people losing control and hurting/killing others?

I'm sure there's some happy medium but In this case Im but really that upset, she made multiple decisions resulting in her driving her vehicle directly towards an officer, I'm aware of what that would likely bring if I were in her shoes.
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That's just it... it never should have gotten to be a chase. They pull over far too many people for minor infractions and victimless crimes.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
That's just it... it never should have gotten to be a chase. They pull over far too many people for minor infractions and victimless crimes.
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There is valid reason to have cares tagged. In some cases I would agree but tags are a basic to have a car on the road.
 
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KB5252 said:
There is valid reason to have cares tagged. In some cases I would agree but tags are a basic to have a car on the road.
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For some reason I don't get the high speed chase and being shot to death as a justifiable police stop for not having tags. Maybe if that were you or a family member you'd be okay with it.
 
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VolStrom said:
For some reason I don't get the high speed chase and being shot to death as a justifiable police stop for not having tags. Maybe if that were you or a family member you'd be okay with it.
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She wasn't shot because she didn't have tags. She was shot because she led officers on a pursuit and accelerated toward an officer.

Since you asked what I would think I'd be completely baffled why I or a family member didn't just take the ticket. And even more perplexed why they led officers on a chase and put themselves and officers in harm's way. Certainly wouldn't understand why they would drive toward an officer and force them to make a decision like that. Certainly wouldn't blame the officer.
 
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KB5252 said:
She wasn't shot because she didn't have tags. She was shot because she led officers on a pursuit and accelerated toward an officer.

Since you asked what I would think I'd be completely baffled why I or a family member didn't just take the ticket. And even more perplexed why they led officers on a chase and put themselves and officers in harm's way. Certainly wouldn't understand why they would drive toward an officer and force them to make a decision like that. Certainly wouldn't blame the officer.
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This is an endless loop of bullsh!t and I'm done debating it. If you can't understand the argument then STFU.
 
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825VOL said:
No, you are wrong. If that cop really feared for his like he would have stayed in his truck. Instead he jumped out into the only space the vehicle could go and opened fire. He executed that person.
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He simply got out of his vehicle. The suspect turned and sped towards him and accelerated
 
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Rickyvol77 said:
He simply got out of his vehicle. The suspect turned and sped towards him and accelerated
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And…. He decided to execute the driver. His adrenaline levels were so high from the chase he could barely put the vehicle in park. He choose to shoot the driver. That was not in self defense. He claimed that afterwards to get away with murder.
 
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825VOL said:
No, you are wrong. If that cop really feared for his like he would have stayed in his truck. Instead he jumped out into the only space the vehicle could go and opened fire. He executed that person.
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The person had a decision, they chose to proceed at an officer.
 
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