Time to replace John Currie

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TNHopeful505 said:
Stop. I don't want a trigger happy guy. I want a AD who is calculated, deliberate, and who makes the right decision when it really is the right time.

This season is likely done for. No matter what we do, we may not even make a bowl. We may finish the worst in history. I don't know. But apparently, the environment within the coaches isn't even good enough to name an interim.

You're ridiculous if you're talking about Currie just because he hasn't pulled the trigger as soon as you'd like him to. Give the man a chance to do the right thing, and honestly, it may not even happen until after the season is over. Just breathe. It's already bad. If it gets worse, it just means you're definitely going to get the outcome you and everyone else is clamoring for. But at least give Currie a chance to play it his way.

Because if all of this pans out and he does end up hiring a winner, you're going to feel really dumb.
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Clueless. Regardless of what the "right thing to do" as far as hiring a new coach is, Butch brings absolutely nothing but apathy to the table at this point and he's hurting the program. Anybody that can't see that just doesn't want to see it or doesn't have the ability to comprehend it.
 
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Volfan76 said:
Clueless. Regardless of what the "right thing to do" as far as hiring a new coach is, Butch brings absolutely nothing but apathy to the table at this point and he's hurting the program. Anybody that can't see that just doesn't want to see it or doesn't have the ability to comprehend it.
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Because Interim Coach Brady Hoke makes it all better.

Thank the heavens this message board cowboy isn't in the decision-making process.
 
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Volfan2012 said:
Heard today that Butch is in a ultimatum game at Kentucky. He has to win that game or he is fired. If he wins there we keep plugging along with him until he loses another game this season.
Several boosters want him fired now but the Haslams still holding out.
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Not true. He's here the rest of the year. If they were going to fire this clown it would be done by now..
 
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Volfan76 said:
At this point there is absolutely no reason for Butch to still be on campus. Now it's time to think about the future of the UT football program and holding on to what little improvements that Butch has been able to make over the last 5 years. It was understandable that Butch would have been allowed to take the Bama beating before being released, but now the program, the players, and the fans need to be concerned with next year and after. The only possible reasons for Butch to still have a job:
1. Currie believes that Butch can turn this around.-I don't think this could possibly be the case but it had to be mentioned as a possibility.
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2. The reports of the buyout being reduced if Butch doesn't make a bowl game are true. If this is the case and Currie is willing to damage the recruiting class, the new coaches, the current players, and the fan base to save money after everything that everybody has been put through, then this job is too big for him.
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3. Currie just has not clue what he is doing and what it is costing the program.

The players and fans deserve more than this. We deserve to have hope for the future and instead we are still all paying for the many many mistakes of the UT athletic administration while they try to save money. Saving money is what got us here in the first place. An interim coach can give the program and fan base a shot in the arm and is the only hope we have at getting to a bowl game and giving the new coaching staff the extra practices that are so valuable to player development. If Currie is willing to throw this away to save money, then this program is too big for him. If he doesn't care any more about they program than this, it is time to replace him as well. I for one, don't want to have to listen to the new staff talk about the "improvements" that UT has made because they made it to a bowl game. Or watch another AD give a coach extensions and pay raises for getting the program back to mediocrity. If Butch was good at anything it was recruiting. I don't want to see this undone over the UT admin's desire to save money. If they want to save money, I think it's time for the fans to save money and stay home on game day until the admin takes winning seriously. The AD made these mistakes and instead of owning the mistakes, they want the players and the fans to pay for it. If this is the case, I say it's time to get a AD that can handle a program that expects winning and will accept nothing less. That is all.
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Interesting take, I assume you have a lot of inside information on what exactly is going on
 
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Volfan2012 said:
Heard today that Butch is in a ultimatum game at Kentucky. He has to win that game or he is fired. If he wins there we keep plugging along with him until he loses another game this season.
Several boosters want him fired now but the Haslams still holding out.
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Well.....we've heard that before. I'm 85% banking on Butch being here next year.
 
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rdl2k7 said:
You truly believe that the options are "Because he thinks Butch is awesome, Because he's a cheapskate or because he's stupid?"

Have you considered a 4th option that perhaps he is a smarter business person than you? Has a deeper understanding of the overall picture than you? Has more information than you? What does firing Butch today accomplish ?

Everybody knows Butch doesn't have a future beyond this year. The timing of the termination is based on factors we don't know about. When he is terminated, all of the pieces will have fallen into place. Whether it's this week, next week or later the future will be the same.
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The answer to every question you asked is already in the post. Try reading it first next time.
 
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whobethis16 said:
You don't know that no actions have been made. There just haven't been actions that YOU know about. Big difference.
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What the hell does that matter if he's let the football program hit another all time low before doing anything. Perception is reality... national perception is UT isn't serious about winning championships... sadly that fits right in with reality.
 
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deezvols said:
Currie seems to be afraid that if he hires a coach that has had 7/8+ wins over the last 3 years, that many coaches will be afraid to come here due to the high expectations. He's waiting for butch to win 6 so he can justify his firing to prospective coaches.
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I don’t know about anyone else, but I don’t want any head coach who thinks that 7-8 wins every year is an acceptable threshold to keeping their job.
 
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In no business I've ever seen is it smart to keep a dead man on staff.

Having Butch to pretend to be in charge while everyone knows he is done doesn't make any sense. "But you don't know what's going on behind the scenes". Okay. Neither do you. So if we are left to assume... I think the safest assumption is that Currie is treating the head coaching job like every other position of employment in the country: If you aren't fired, it's because it hasn't been decided you are fired, and there is something you can do to save your job.

Go Kentucky.
 
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UT_King said:
What the hell does that matter if he's lets the football program hit another all time low before doing anything. Perception is reality... national perception is UT isn't serious about winning championships... sadly that fits right in with reality.
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There's this thing called contracts, availability, etc. For all anyone but Curry knows, there could be someone lined up right now. Just because he doesn't bend over to kiss your and the rest of the loudmouths butt doesn't mean he's not taking actions.
 
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UT_King said:
What the hell does that matter if he's let the football program hit another all time low before doing anything. Perception is reality... national perception is UT isn't serious about winning championships... sadly that fits right in with reality.
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Drama. :boredom: He’s going to do his job. You’re going to pretend to do yours.
 
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Volfan76 said:
2. The reports of the buyout being reduced if Butch doesn't make a bowl game are true. If this is the case and Currie is willing to damage the recruiting class, the new coaches, the current players, and the fan base to save money after everything that everybody has been put through, then this job is too big for him.
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This is why you aren't in charge of anyone else's money.
 
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ButchPlz said:
Because Interim Coach Brady Hoke makes it all better.

Thank the heavens this message board cowboy isn't in the decision-making process.
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If you haven't noticed where interim coaches give players hope and an apathetic program a shot in the arm, then you don't watch much college football. EO at LSU did it to the point that they hired him full time last year. Unfortunately the people who are making the decision have sunshine pumpers that are going eat up whatever crap they feed them.
 
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Volfan2012 said:
Heard today that Butch is in a ultimatum game at Kentucky. He has to win that game or he is fired. If he wins there we keep plugging along with him until he loses another game this season.
Several boosters want him fired now but the Haslams still holding out.
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That's idiotic; if he pulls it off and gets on a roll, then he's back next year.
 
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UT saves about a million $ if Jones finishes the season. I think the buyout drops around the 15th of December.
 
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Would probably wait until the end of the year before I called for Currie's head. Let this play out
 
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Volfan76 said:
The answer to every question you asked is already in the post. Try reading it first next time.
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I want a Athletic Director to be wise and to make good decisions big picture. I re-read the post. It doesn't give any credibility to the point that our AD is likely making decisions based on different information than the general public has. UT does care about the money, but as with most business decisions, when you find the right course of action, you go all in with resources (money included)
 
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Volfan76 said:
Worse than having records broken by the severity of butt kickings every week?
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Coaches start looking for new jobs, less motivated to put any effort into the game plans, recruiting suffers, players lose motivation and start skipping classes, APR drops, players get into trouble etc, etc. Yeah, we really really suck on the field, and Jones needs to go, but it could be a lot worse. If Currie has a replacement to name at the same he lets Jones go, then he can preserve program.
 
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