Time to replace John Currie

[Hubbard]

Bruh, anybody on here could do a better job than Butch at this point. I’m truly convinced.

That is what you are hoping for, anybody but Butch?

Not a way to rebuild a program.

BTW, for many on here, you would pee your pants just from the pressure of Day 1.

 

[Volfan76]

Currie has backed himself in a corner with his handling of this. He has put the next staff at a major recruiting disadvantage with the new early signing period. All I'm going to say is his next hire better be a Grud one!

 

[Hubbard]

Currie has backed himself in a corner with his handling of this. He has put the next staff at a major recruiting disadvantage with the new early signing period. All I'm going to say is his next hire better be a Grud one!

Explain how he has put the next staff in a major recruiting disadvantage.

Grud is not coming.

 

[UTK]

That is what you are hoping for, anybody but Butch?

Not a way to rebuild a program.

BTW, for many on here, you would pee your pants just from the pressure of Day 1.

I’m not hoping for “anybody but butch”. They better get a big time fire. But. Yes. I’d take anybody but Butch these last two games of this season.

And BTW. You don’t have to wait on your knees for Butch all day.

 

[Hubbard]

I’m not hoping for “anybody but butch”. They better get a big time fire. But. Yes. I’d take anybody but Butch these last two games of this season.

And BTW. You don’t have to wait on your knees for Butch all day.

Ah yes, your sexual fantasy reference. Always a sign of your suppressed desires.

If you don't have the intelligence to converse with adults it may be best to stay quite.

 

[Volfan76]

Explain how he has put the next staff in a major recruiting disadvantage.

Grud is not coming.

Early signing period is now officially Dec. 20th. Elite recruits can now officially sign and be locked in to an agreement with the program in a little over a month. Recruiting is about building relationships with coaches and there position coaches. No elite recruit is going to sign with a university if they don't even know who their position coach is going to be. None of this can happen until the current coach is fired. There is a reason that other major programs have fired their coaches and it's not because they halve hot head ADs.

 

[Cartervol]

You got to love these threads. It's as if someone thinks UT holds the football program to some sort standard anymore. News flash.. If they did you wouldn't have seen this shatshow for a decade now. Tennessee wants to be Harvard now, while ranking 103rd in Academics. So in other words they're failing at that too..So much fail up there at every level. Should fire the whole bunch and start over.

 

[Vols1891]

Davenport is rumored to not even understand the basics of football...I’m talking stuff like not knowing what a first down means, the difference between a field goal and a touchdown, etc...yet I’m being told she is the biggest deterrent, along with Currie obviously, to making a coaching change. I don’t have anything against her for not being a fan of football, but it is concerning that she has so much say on the direction of the program. She allegedly is very fond of Butch and his wife and thinks boosters have had too much influence on the athletic department in the past. As a result, she is supposedly encouraging Currie to push back against the boosters on making a coaching change this season. She wants Currie to sell them on evaluating the program after the 2018 season. This information is coming from a contact within the AD who has been correct on everything he’s told me so far this season....take a look at my previous posts going back over the past few months for verification.

 

[VFL-82-JP]

Early signing period is now officially Dec. 20th. Elite recruits can now officially sign and be locked in to an agreement with the program in a little over a month. Recruiting is about building relationships with coaches and there position coaches. No elite recruit is going to sign with a university if they don't even know who their position coach is going to be. None of this can happen until the current coach is fired. There is a reason that other major programs have fired their coaches and it's not because they halve hot head ADs.

Or maybe...the opposite.

Just thinking through this theoretically for a moment...

Say I'm currently not in the coaching ranks, but I could be a coach again in the next couple of weeks.

At this point, I'm entirely free to pick up my phone and talk to anyone in the country, right? Including high school football players who might want to come to the university that I might, say possibly in a couple of weeks, be hired to coach.

I'm not bound by any NCAA rules at this point, right? EVEN IF it becomes public knowledge that I talked to a young man on the phone, specifically about his commitment to the University of X, no big, right? Because I'm free to do that. Right?

I honestly don't know, so I'm thinking out loud.

Would the NCAA have a word to say about it if Coach X, the new head coach at the University of Tennessee, had conversations with recruits weeks before he was hired? Openly, not trying to hide a thing, talked with a bunch of recruits about going to Tennessee because he hoped to be there soon.

What do you think?

 

[Volfan76]

Davenport is rumored to not even understand the basics of football...I’m talking stuff like not knowing what a first down means, the difference between a field goal and a touchdown, etc...yet I’m being told she is the biggest deterrent, along with Currie obviously, to making a coaching change. She allegedly is very fond of Butch and his wife and thinks boosters have had to much influence on the athletic department in the past. As a result, she is supposedly encouraging Currie to push back against the boosters on making a coaching change this season. She wants Currie to sell them on evaluating the program after the 2018 season. This information is coming from a contact within the AD who has been correct on everything he’s told me so far this season....take a look at my previous posts going back over the past few months for verification.

According to Hubbs and skeeter, this is all on Currie and his fear of the perception of firing a big time coach too soon. He is worried that it will look like he is just wanting to clean house and get his own guys in here. They say he has been resisting pressure from them for weeks. Sounds like he isn't ready to make big boy decisions at a program this big.

 

[Volfan76]

Or maybe...the opposite.

Just thinking through this theoretically for a moment...

Say I'm currently not in the coaching ranks, but I could be a coach again in the next couple of weeks.

At this point, I'm entirely free to pick up my phone and talk to anyone in the country, right? Including high school football players who might want to come to the university that I might, say possibly in a couple of weeks, be hired to coach.

I'm not bound by any NCAA rules at this point, right? EVEN IF it becomes public knowledge that I talked to a young man on the phone, specifically about his commitment to the University of X, no big, right? Because I'm free to do that. Right?

I honestly don't know, so I'm thinking out loud.

Would the NCAA have a word to say about it if Coach X, the new head coach at the University of Tennessee, had conversations with recruits weeks before he was hired? Openly, not trying to hide a thing, talked with a bunch of recruits about going to Tennessee because he hoped to be there soon.

What do you think?

That is a major recruiting violation and could destroy the program. That's why it was such a big deal for Urban Meyer to get special permission to recruit at OSU several years ago when he was hired before the end of the year and the current staff was in place.

 

[Hubbard]

Early signing period is now officially Dec. 20th. Elite recruits can now officially sign and be locked in to an agreement with the program in a little over a month. Recruiting is about building relationships with coaches and there position coaches. No elite recruit is going to sign with a university if they don't even know who their position coach is going to be. None of this can happen until the current coach is fired. There is a reason that other major programs have fired their coaches and it's not because they halve hot head ADs.

My point is that none of this is going to happen until the next coach and his staff are hired.

Florida does not have that coach or staff in place do they?

Again, this is not about Butch, it is about the program. I don't see how the program benefits from firing Butch, to replace him with an interim, that will be replaced with a new coach. In the end, we have to wait for the new coach and his staff.

I agree with your thought that Gruden would be a jump start in recruiting. However, realistically, he is not leaving ESPN today to start recruiting for TN. Realistically, he is not coming to UT.

As you said, much of recruiting is about relationships are those are not going to be built in a few weeks. The best hope we have of "converting" a recruit in the early signing is by announcing Gruden as the new coach, and that is not happening.

My hope is that we announce a new coach in early December. We need to let the next coach get through with the season and conference championship.

 

[VFL-82-JP]

That is a major recruiting violation and could destroy the program. That's why it was such a big deal for Urban Meyer to get special permission to recruit at OSU several years ago when he was hired before the end of the year and the current staff was in place.

Is it?

You said Urban had to get special permission after he was hired. I'm talking about a person who has NOT yet been hired. Is not, officially or unofficially, yet a representative of the University.

I ask because I don't know the NCAA rule book well enough.

And not talking about skulking around with this. Talking about doing it openly, in the Harbaugh manner: identifying a gap in NCAA rules, and openly exploiting it.

Keep in mind, this is all a think piece. I'm not advocating it; I'm asking if there would be anything at all that the NCAA could do in this situation.

Would there?

 

[Hubbard]

According to Hubbs and skeeter, this is all on Currie and his fear of the perception of firing a big time coach too soon. He is worried that it will look like he is just wanting to clean house and get his own guys in here. They say he has been resisting pressure from them for weeks. Sounds like he isn't ready to make big boy decisions at a program this big.

Sounds like you cannot discuss the true narrative so you make one up. Maybe you should read my comments about Currie's decisions while he has been at UT. It does not fit your assumption that all in authority are not as smart as you but the facts show that Currie has made big boy decisions I doubt you will ever have the opportunity to make.

 

[UTRavens]

This was always just...so stupid.