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Thanks man. Other than the proper name for my routine, is there anything that stands out good or bad?
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If you don't change up the routine from time to time, progress will slow for you at some point. Purely, the law of diminishing returns. I think that following the program you are on will definitely keep you lean. However, if you are looking to add muscle/bulk you may want to increase the rest periods and split your cardio away from your weight training. I am just speculating here as far as what you want to achieve. You really have to determine what your goal is, and adapt the program you follow to get there.
 
I use Jack3d and definitely see results from from it. You do build up a tolerance to it very quickly though.

The only ill effects I've had are some altered sleeping patterns - that why I only take it at 12pm or earlier.
 
Sounds exactly like the same issue I was having. It wasn't that I couldn't increase in weight, it was that I couldn't even come close to doing the same weight I had just done in a previous workout. About a 30% dropoff. Chiropractor adjusted my left shoulder and I haven't had any strength issues in it since.

Really? It was just that simple?
 
If you don't change up the routine from time to time, progress will slow for you at some point. Purely, the law of diminishing returns. I think that following the program you are on will definitely keep you lean. However, if you are looking to add muscle/bulk you may want to increase the rest periods and split your cardio away from your weight training. I am just speculating here as far as what you want to achieve. You really have to determine what your goal is, and adapt the program you follow to get there.

I'm switching up my routine this week. My goal is to be lean, but ripped. I don't want to be all bulky and "muscles drawn up" looking. I want to further "rip" what I have and maybe get to 172 lbs......
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Really? It was just that simple?

Pretty much. Try holding the weak arm in front of you and parallel to the ground and have someone press down on it. If its as I suspect, even the slightest push will cause it to give. Then try it with the strong side and it'll likely be rock solid.
 
Lemme guess, he/she just needs you to come in every 2 weeks for ab 3 months, no?
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How about 12 visits, 3 times a week? That's what I ended up doing. I had more issues that just my shoulder, though. My shoulder was fixed after the first adjustment. Figured I'd throw that out there so as not to deter anyone having shoulder alignment issues from getting it worked on.
 
Pretty much. Try holding the weak arm in front of you and parallel to the ground and have someone press down on it. If its as I suspect, even the slightest push will cause it to give. Then try it with the strong side and it'll likely be rock solid.

My left arm is absolutely one hundred percent. Same as ever.

I'll do this test when I get a chance, but I already know how weak my right arm is. I was walking into Bonnaroo carrying three 16.9oz bottles of water in my right hand (two of them resting on my upward facing palm and the third stacked on top of the other two). Within less than a minute my arm started to get fatigued. I wanted to see how bad it was, so I kept them in my right hand the entire time. My arm never completely gave out, but near the end of the half mile (roughly) walk , I was seriously straining to hold them up.

So when he adjusted your shoulder, the strength just immediately came back to your arm? Like you left his office that day with full strength?

Also, what exactly does "adjusting the shoulder" mean? What did he do to it?
 
Thing is don't let the chiropractor dupe you into committing to a ton of visits. Go once for the initial & maybe one or two follow ups then go as needed. If you have insurance that covers it see if he will take just whatever the insurance pays. All he's looking for is steady business.
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srs? They can realign you? how many trips does it take?

Muscles pull your frame out of alignment, a quality masseus can get those muscles to release. A chiropractor just realigns your frame, your muscles pull it out again, thus necessitating multiple trips until your muscles learn. Many chiropractors employ and include massage now for that reason. The problem is finding one that knows their stuff. It's totally trial and error, but I've found a good one in Knoxville that does more in one visit than twelve visits to the back cracker.
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A legit one is the key....back crackers will jack you up if your not careful....massage is the way to go lyls....no doubt
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Muscles pull your frame out of alignment, a quality masseus can get those muscles to release. A chiropractor just realigns your frame, your muscles pull it out again, thus necessitating multiple trips until your muscles learn. Many chiropractors employ and include massage now for that reason. The problem is finding one that knows their stuff. It's totally trial and error, but I've found a good one in Knoxville that does more in one visit than twelve visits to the back cracker.
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Care to share?
 
Care to share?

Sara Griscom. Owner of gypsy hands downtown. Kind of a hippie, but tons of knowledge, and unusually strong for such a petite girl. The day after a session I feel like I was in a car wreck, but I get about 2-3 months of relief.
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So when he adjusted your shoulder, the strength just immediately came back to your arm? Like you left his office that day with full strength?

Also, what exactly does "adjusting the shoulder" mean? What did he do to it?

Yep. He basically described it to me as functional strength vs structural strength. Functional strength is strength determined by your body performing as it is should and structural strength is muscular strength. Once my shoulder and ribs were realigned, functional strength was 100% because everything was working together again. He had me do the test I described earlier and I couldn't hold it and retested it immediately after the adjustment and the difference was honestly astounding.

I don't know if all chiropractors use the same adjusting technique but he had me lie on my back with my right hand over my left pec for support, placed his right arm under my left shoulder and using his left hand pushed my shoulder towards the table.

The only reason that I had to make more than one or two visits was that I also have some neck and lower back issues that he was working on. Haven't had those problems again since I finished up my 12 visits, so something worked.

The only real difference between your situation and mine is that it sounds like your loss of strength is greater than mine. It definitely wouldn't hurt to check it out if you can. I was able to get a free evaluation, so I'd see if a local and reputable chiro will do that.
 
Sara Griscom. Owner of gypsy hands downtown. Kind of a hippie, but tons of knowledge, and unusually strong for such a petite girl. The day after a session I feel like I was in a car wreck, but I get about 2-3 months of relief.
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how about the endings? she hot?
 
Mentzer's HIT program is crazy. This year I've worked legs consistently 1-2 times per week, about 15 sets each trip, and doing just 4 sets his way made me sore.
 

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