The Weightlifters Thread

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kidbourbon said:
I feel like his issue is slightly different than mine. I don't know exactly what he meant by "left side giving out", but it sounds like the result was that he simply wasn't able to keep moving up in weight. I wish that was my problem.

As an example of my issue: I normally do curls with 40 lb dumbbells (3 sets of 20 (the 20 is of course counting the reps of both arms)), and I can still do that amount of weight with my left arm (I tried today). My right arm, on the other hand, wasn't able to do a single rep with 40s, and got fatigued to the point of failure after maybe 6-7 reps with 20s. Yes you read that correctly: 20s. It's really weak.
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Actually, your problem is probably very similar to his. Getting weak suddenly usually means you're out of alignment. Chiropractor can help, but so can a good masseus.
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#1,102
#1,102
govols/cc said:
Maybe a pinched nerve or something. Have you ever been to the chiropractor?
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I haven't. I'll be out of town the next four days (bonnaroo), and if nothing has changed when I get back, I'm gonna have to take steps to get this figured out.
 
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kidbourbon said:
I haven't. I'll be out of town the next four days (bonnaroo), and if nothing has changed when I get back, I'm gonna have to take steps to get this figured out.
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I would start at the chiropractor before I went to the doctor & had a bunch of tests done. Chiropractor works miracles for some folks.
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chavisut said:
DC training promotes static holds of up to twenty seconds on final reps.
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yeah, Mentzer says hold it for 15 and then a real slow negative. You are strongest on the negative, then strongest when static, then in the positive motion. He says we waste most of our time on the positive and that's backwards if you are trying to build strength.
 
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#1,105
govols/cc said:
I realized we were on a different level when you said you got a pump from doing 185 10x. Thought I would try to help but do what you want.
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Actually, the more muscular you are the easier it is to get a pump. 185 lbs on bench? I can get a pump with plates and 10 reps. When I'm in shape and rested I can get a pump so easily. It's almost like popping a woody. If you just think about it real hard you can make it happen.
 
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govols/cc said:
Whatever man. It's proven that it don't matter how fast or slow you lift that you get the same results. You feel the burning because you're wasting energy on light weight going slow. Are you saying 10 slow reps of 185 going slow is better than 25 reps at a normal pace. Hopefully common sense tells you better. I bet you own a shake weight. Aren't you the guy that don't touch his chest too?
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What you're failing to consider here is duration of exercise, so super slows actually do produce different and in some cases superior results. Per Journal of Sports Medicine and MS from Michigan Kinesiology.

BigPapaVol said:
Most modern training alternates between heavy negative with constant tension and explosion.
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Absolutely; variety is a big key.

There is no right or wrong in strength training, you have to determine what you want your outcome to be and what works for you. Super slows are perfectly appropriate in their time and place.

govols/cc said:
I think you guys are the ones reading magazines. I've been lifting many, many years. I've learned from my old high school strength coach & friends at the gym that show the results to know they have knowledge. Magazines have to come up with crap every week & most of it is bs.
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Magazines are full of BS, but not the variety you think of; their main problem is that they are littered with product placement, and using one as a source of dietary info is not that great of an idea.
 
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kidbourbon said:
I feel like his issue is slightly different than mine. I don't know exactly what he meant by "left side giving out", but it sounds like the result was that he simply wasn't able to keep moving up in weight. I wish that was my problem.

As an example of my issue: I normally do curls with 40 lb dumbbells (3 sets of 20 (the 20 is of course counting the reps of both arms)), and I can still do that amount of weight with my left arm (I tried today). My right arm, on the other hand, wasn't able to do a single rep with 40s, and got fatigued to the point of failure after maybe 6-7 reps with 20s. Yes you read that correctly: 20s. It's really weak.
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Sounds exactly like the same issue I was having. It wasn't that I couldn't increase in weight, it was that I couldn't even come close to doing the same weight I had just done in a previous workout. About a 30% dropoff. Chiropractor adjusted my left shoulder and I haven't had any strength issues in it since.
 
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I have a lot of stiffness & soreness I carry in the neck and shoulders. My girlfriend is a big advocate of the chiropractor and has been trying to get me to go for a while now. For those who've been what's your opinion/impression?
 
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I have most of Mentzer's books. I think his emphasis on rest and and doing the negative part of the repetition, is on the money. I think he contributed a lot to bodybuilding, too bad more people dont notice it.
 
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I have some questions for the VN supplements experts. I am currently taking JACK3D as a pre-workout and then taking ON Protein after my workouts. My question is what else should I add to that?

I have heard creatine works well, but I've never really tried it. What is the best creatine out there?

Also what do you all recommend for a pre-workout? I am taking JACK3D now, but I was wanting to switch it up a little bit.

If there are any other kinds of supplements that you all recommend then please let me know. Thanks.
 
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flowd82 said:
I have some questions for the VN supplements experts. I am currently taking JACK3D as a pre-workout and then taking ON Protein after my workouts. My question is what else should I add to that?

I have heard creatine works well, but I've never really tried it. What is the best creatine out there?

Also what do you all recommend for a pre-workout? I am taking JACK3D now, but I was wanting to switch it up a little bit.

If there are any other kinds of supplements that you all recommend then please let me know. Thanks.
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I'm a Green Magnitude fan. No bloating and taste pretty good.
 
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chavisut said:
I'm a Green Magnitude fan. No bloating and taste pretty good.
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ORANGE & WHITE said:
Heard this was good. Also, heard that Muscle Meds Code Red worked well too.
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Thanks for the help on creatine guys. I will definitely look those up and try some out.

Stupid question, when do I take creatine?

I am taking the JACK3D 30 minutes before my workout and then taking my ON Protein directly after my workout. So at what point do I take creatine? Before, during, or after?
 
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flowd82 said:
Thanks for the help on creatine guys. I will definitely look those up and try some out.

Stupid question, when do I take creatine?

I am taking the JACK3D 30 minutes before my workout and then taking my ON Protein directly after my workout. So at what point do I take creatine? Before, during, or after?
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Just buy a really good post workout supplement. You'll get enough creatine before and after.
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bamacheats said:
Just buy a really good post workout supplement. You'll get enough creatine before and after.
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What would you recommend? All I am taking now post-workout is some protein. What else should I add to that?

And also I am thinking of going with Green Magnitude for my creatine. Can I take Green Mag and JACK3D pre-workout and then protein and whatever else after? I don't know if there would be any need for both the creatine and the JACK3D pre-workout.
 
#1,124
#1,124
flowd82 said:
What would you recommend? All I am taking now post-workout is some protein. What else should I add to that?

And also I am thinking of going with Green Magnitude for my creatine. Can I take Green Mag and JACK3D pre-workout and then protein and whatever else after? I don't know if there would be any need for both the creatine and the JACK3D pre-workout.
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Scivation Xtend
 
#1,125
#1,125
flowd82 said:
Thanks for the help on creatine guys. I will definitely look those up and try some out.

Stupid question, when do I take creatine?

I am taking the JACK3D 30 minutes before my workout and then taking my ON Protein directly after my workout. So at what point do I take creatine? Before, during, or after?
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If Jack3d has creatine, and you're already eating a ton of meat, I wouldn't see why you would need any more. JMO
 
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