The Venezuela thread

[USF grad in TN]

Note more competent than Doug!

But I have an affinity for the Dept of Interior!

Rubio's on top of South America stuff.

 

[JMSqb11]

Rubio's on top of South America stuff.

That’s because of geography.

 

[swampfoxfan]

There isn't anything to conquer -- they would just walk right in. They'll have more problems from the polar bears.

So yes I guess we should do it. Conquer Mexico and we can contend with a shorter boarder. All Mexican will have to be deported. Canada looks ripe as well.

 

[LSU-SIU]

So yes I guess we should do it. Conquer Mexico and we can contend with a shorter boarder. All Mexican will have to be deported. Canada looks ripe as well.

Sounds like they better do what they are told.

 

[n_huffhines]

IDK anything about oil. Apparently Venezuela has a specific coveted type of oil...and sounds like self-created trade problems with Canada made this type more expensive.

 

[Buddy’s Bandit]

It's never been more true. The Trump following has nothing to do with policies or ideology or even the best interests of the United States, which can always be rationalized. It's a pure and unconditional devotion to one person.

Gotcha….that’s why he received numbers from Blacks and Hispanics that have not been seen for a republican candidate in a long time.

The border, cutting crime, and lowering inflation rates are things we should all be advocates for.

I can’t help you if you can’t see this.

 

[allstar34]

IDK anything about oil. Apparently Venezuela has a specific coveted type of oil...and sounds like self-created trade problems with Canada made this type more expensive.

Opening Venezuela’s oil industry to U.S. investment will greatly increase production, lower energy prices, and improve energy security for the United States. At the same time, American technology and capital will help rebuild Venezuela’s damaged oil infrastructure and create jobs. Higher oil revenues will support Venezuela’s economic recovery if managed responsibly. Cooperation benefits both countries through shared economic and energy gains. It's the Great Gentrification of the Venezuelan Oil Industry.

 

[Orange_Crush]

Opening Venezuela’s oil industry to U.S. investment will greatly increase production, lower energy prices, and improve energy security for the United States. At the same time, American technology and capital will help rebuild Venezuela’s damaged oil infrastructure and create jobs. Higher oil revenues will support Venezuela’s economic recovery if managed responsibly. Cooperation benefits both countries through shared economic and energy gains. It's the Great Gentrification of the Venezuelan Oil Industry.

And it will starve China of energy. I suspect this is not merely about Venezuela.

 

[allstar34]

And it will starve China of energy. I suspect this is not merely about Venezuela.

China can pay a fair price for it now, instead of giving loan shark loans to them for deeply discounted oil.

 

[LSU-SIU]

Opening Venezuela’s oil industry to U.S. investment will greatly increase production, lower energy prices, and improve energy security for the United States. At the same time, American technology and capital will help rebuild Venezuela’s damaged oil infrastructure and create jobs. Higher oil revenues will support Venezuela’s economic recovery if managed responsibly. Cooperation benefits both countries through shared economic and energy gains. It's the Great Gentrification of the Venezuelan Oil Industry.

If there is a top, there is a bottom. Making all these promises are a mistake, maybe they will be slightly better off.... maybe not. But they will be the bottom, at least for the foreseeable future -> our whole life.

 

[swampfoxfan]

Opening Venezuela’s oil industry to U.S. investment will greatly increase production, lower energy prices, and improve energy security for the United States. At the same time, American technology and capital will help rebuild Venezuela’s damaged oil infrastructure and create jobs. Higher oil revenues will support Venezuela’s economic recovery if managed responsibly. Cooperation benefits both countries through shared economic and energy gains. It's the Great Gentrification of the Venezuelan Oil Industry.

A lot of retooling would be required to refine Venezuela heavy crude. If you believe all Venezuelans are going to welcome Americans with open arms you are delusional. American oil companies are not lining up to invest billions into Venezuelan oil. To many worker safety concerns among other things.

 

[allstar34]

A lot of retooling would be required to refine Venezuela heavy crude. If you believe all Venezuelans are going to welcome Americans with open arms you are delusional. American oil companies are not lining up to invest billions into Venezuelan oil. To many worker safety concerns among other things.

DJT is a liar then. I guess we will see.

 

[volfanhill]

A lot of retooling would be required to refine Venezuela heavy crude. If you believe all Venezuelans are going to welcome Americans with open arms you are delusional. American oil companies are not lining up to invest billions into Venezuelan oil. To many worker safety concerns among other things.

Worker saftey concerns? By American companies on foreign soil? Lol

 

[hog88]

A lot of retooling would be required to refine Venezuela heavy crude. If you believe all Venezuelans are going to welcome Americans with open arms you are delusional. American oil companies are not lining up to invest billions into Venezuelan oil. To many worker safety concerns among other things.

Our gulf coast refineries are built to refine heavy crude, that’s why the Keystone pipeline was being built. To ship Canadian tar sand oil (heavy crude) to our refineries.

 

[volfanhill]

Our gulf coast refineries are built to refine heavy crude, that’s why the Keystone pipeline was being built. To ship Canadian tar sand oil (heavy crude) to our refineries.

Almost all of our refineries in the Gulf are for the heavy stuff. Don't get what he's aiming at

 

[RavinDave]

Rubio's on top of South America stuff.

He has a nose for it

 

[MAD]

Might want to take that out of your rotation based on your parties flip flopping the last few election cycles and years.

A bunch of liars that are ruining America.

 

[EasternVol]

Opening Venezuela’s oil industry to U.S. investment will greatly increase production, lower energy prices, and improve energy security for the United States. At the same time, American technology and capital will help rebuild Venezuela’s damaged oil infrastructure and create jobs. Higher oil revenues will support Venezuela’s economic recovery if managed responsibly. Cooperation benefits both countries through shared economic and energy gains. It's the Great Gentrification of the Venezuelan Oil Industry.

Cooperation, that's funny.

 

[swampfoxfan]

Worker saftey concerns? By American companies on foreign soil? Lol

You think Americans would be safe?? I get it you disagree with anything I post,however.

 

[swampfoxfan]

Our gulf coast refineries are built to refine heavy crude, that’s why the Keystone pipeline was being built. To ship Canadian tar sand oil (heavy crude) to our refineries.

Yep I was wrong.

 

[rekinhavoc]

'Welcome to Hell': Venezuelans Describe Torture Under Maduro Regime

Venezuelan former political prisoners of the regime of socialist dictator Nicolás Maduro recounted their harrowing experiences following Maduro's arrest in a U.S. operation.

www.breitbart.com

 

[JMSqb11]

DJT is a liar then. I guess we will see.

People were legitimate expecting to have all the companies and hedge funds to roll into Caracas and Venezuela 24 hours after Maduro was arrested? Lol

 

[FLVOL_79]

Gotcha….that’s why he received numbers from Blacks and Hispanics that have not been seen for a republican candidate in a long time.

The border, cutting crime, and lowering inflation rates are things we should all be advocates for.

I can’t help you if you can’t see this.

This is the kind of unintentional "look how not racist I am!" nonsense that makes Republicans look dumb. It shouldn't matter what color a person is as long as they vote.

 

[FLVOL_79]

People were legitimate expecting to have all the companies and hedge funds to roll into Caracas and Venezuela 24 hours after Maduro was arrested? Lol

MAGA thinks/thought so.

 

[JMSqb11]

MAGA thinks/thought so.

They are all idiots. I personally am optimistic about South/Central America over the next few years as there is a shift to moderate candidacies taking over. While some are super conservative on policy, it is still shift to middle from where they are.

It is also easier for the US to be invested in stuff going on 2-3 hours off our coastline.

Addressing the border is great and all, but that is a defensive posture. Actually dealing with root causes of massive migration is ultimately a long term strategy.

That isn't me saying that I think Trump (really Rubio) will be successful, but this is lightyears better than the strategy of "Do not come. Do not come".....

Also a big part of why i'm mostly tuned out of politics this term is because Trump and Biden are the 90% the same people with 10% policy differences.

They are both going to be dead within 5-10 years of leaving office so they don't really have an investment in making sure they have long term effects that are successful for future generations. Not saying old people can't serve, but this is one of the most skipped over dangers of having geriatrics like Joe and Donald running the country. They don't really care about long term success.

Atleast on this current front, Rubio is younger, has a family with lots of kids. Regardless of policy, not hard to see why he wants this all to work out for long term.

Trump would sell Don Jr and Eric and Ivanka to Denmark if that was their asking price to sell Greenland.