The Venezuela thread

[lawgator1]

What war are we in that Trump started?

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[LSU-SIU]

OK, saying he has committed acts of war is different than the question I asked. He was in Iran and Venezuela for a grand total of about 5 hrs. No war was started. None of our boys are on the ground in either of those countries. Personally that's how I feel our military should be used right now. No more occupying forces

I agree there is a difference to a degree, but I am not sure that is how most were envisioning.

Trump is doing what the U.S. has been doing for 50-60 years, nothing has really changed... he is just being transparent about it.

 

[Sea Ray]

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I'm waiting for an answer. You got nothing

 

[utvolpj]

OK, saying he has committed acts of war is different than the question I asked. He was in Iran and Venezuela for a grand total of about 5 hrs. No war was started. None of our boys are on the ground in either of those countries. Personally that's how I feel our military should be used right now. No more occupying forces

Iran didn't become a bigger war because of their response not ours. We didn't control the outcome there and did it anyways

Not sure destabilizing countries and then leaving them is really a positive (see Libya?

 

[LouderVol]

a new round of Banana Orange Republics

 

[Sea Ray]

Iran didn't become a bigger war because of their response not ours. We didn't control the outcome there and did it anyways

Not sure destabilizing countries and then leaving them is really a positive (see Libya?

Seeing as what's going on in Iran right now, our strike had exactly the effect we wanted it to

 

[tim]

Oh, I'm not saying China hasn't been doing things on the edges, but the U.S. is basically threatening everyone not to do business with them - how does that work? Regardless, what the U.S. has been doing are acts of war, we can call it whatever though.

If the U.S. truly believes what you believe i.e. the bold, there is a solution to that - cut them off from the global financial system. We can at that point just head straight to global reset and most of this won't matter at that point. It is possibly, China pulls the plug themselves.

What exactly do you want the people in the world that actually produce to buy with their U.S. dollars?

They can buy the same products that China produces, almost everything is a product of a western mind and has either been stolen or westerners tired of their work product being stolen have capitulated to and sought Chinese production. They produce it cheaper and if you put it on a market they’ll reverse engineer it and sell it right beside your product for 40% less

 

[LSU-SIU]

They can buy the same products that China produces, almost everything is a product of a western mind and has either been stolen or westerners tired of their work product being stolen have capitulated to and sought Chinese production. They produce it cheaper and if you put it on a market they’ll reverse engineer it and sell it right beside your product for 40% less

What happens if they don't want them, and how do they build them without the resources? And why is one entity attempting to control all the resources?

The U.S. controls the global financial banking system, and now wants to control most of the world's resources. Yeah, I can't see a problem there for the rest of the world.

Sounds like its time for reset.

 

[tim]

What happens if they don't want them, and how do they build them without the resources? And why is one entity attempting to control all the resources?

The U.S. controls the global financial banking system, and now wants to control most of the world's resources. Yeah, I can't see a problem there for the rest of the world.

Sounds like its time for reset.

People invent things fairly all the time that people don’t want or no longer need. It’s a chicken/egg argument though. Inventor makes product, finds a us manufacturer, china steals it and makes it for less. US manufacturers cannot compete with cheap labor, goes out of business. China ramps up manufacturing and inventor, still wanting his product developed and not stolen, finds a Chinese manufacturer because he can’t find one locally. China probably steals it anyway

 

[utvolpj]

So no more talk about fentanyl and Maduro's the head of a cartel that doesn't even exist. Interesting

 

[LSU-SIU]

People invent things fairly all the time that people don’t want or no longer need. It’s a chicken/egg argument though. Inventor makes product, finds a us manufacturer, china steals it and makes it for less. US manufacturers cannot compete with cheap labor, goes out of business. China ramps up manufacturing and inventor, still wanting his product developed and not stolen, finds a Chinese manufacturer because he can’t find one locally. China probably steals it anyway

I agree with you generally speaking. The issue to many of these problem(s) is there is no solution people are going to like or want to hear.

 

[LSU-SIU]

So no more talk about fentanyl and Maduro's the head of a cartel that doesn't even exist. Interesting

I would assume if everyone does what they are told. If they don't do what they are told, they too could be charged with illegally carrying a machinegun in Venezuela under U.S. law.

A man is ripping your ear off..

 

[swampfoxfan]

I know American companies do business in far more dangerous places and situations. So no the companies would not be concerned. I don't disagree with everything you post. Just most of what you post

Far more dangerous, maybe a fee as dangerous. Asking workers to enter a country still run by drug cartels is pretty high on the list of dangerous places.

 

[rekinhavoc]

If America doesn't lead, who will?

https://glennbeck.com/read/articles/iamerica-doesnt-lead-who-will-venezuela-explained

 

[RockyTop85]

Elections have consequences. Overthrowing foreign dictators is what people voted for. Get over it.

 

[tim]

I agree with you generally speaking. The issue to many of these problem(s) is there is no solution people are going to like or want to hear.

Very true, however…. Take away chinas theft and what is the result?

 

[RockyTop85]

I mean the people of Venezuela celebrated! The unelected dictator is gone and now the unelected vice dictator is in charge. What more do you guys want him to do?!?!

 

[tim]

I mean the people of Venezuela celebrated! The unelected dictator is gone and now the unelected vice dictator is in charge. What more do you guys want him to do?!?!

Make a man a woman

 

[LouderVol]

So no more talk about fentanyl and Maduro's the head of a cartel that doesn't even exist. Interesting

shhhhh. they are on their 6th different justification. don't confuse them with their own arguments.

 

[BigOrangeMojo]

Elections have consequences. Overthrowing foreign dictators is what people voted for. Get over it.

Drill Baby Drill

 

[hog88]

Far more dangerous, maybe a fee as dangerous. Asking workers to enter a country still run by drug cartels is pretty high on the list of dangerous places.

US workers go into Mexico every day.

 

[jmacvols1]

JUST IN: The United States has seized two “ghost fleet” tanker ships including a Russian-flagged tanker linked to Venezuela following a multi-week long pursuit.

“In two predawn operations today, the Coast Guard conducted back-to-back meticulously coordinated boarding of two “ghost fleet” tanker ships— one in the North Atlantic Sea and one in international waters near the Caribbean,” Secretary Kristi Noem said.“Both vessels —the Motor Tanker Bella I and the Motor Taker Sophia—were either last docked in Venezuela or en route to it.”“

One of these tankers, Motor Tanker Bella I, has been trying to evade the Coast Guard for weeks, even changing its flag and painting a new name on the hull while being pursued, in a desperate and failed attempt to escape justice.”

“The heroic crew of the USCGC Munro pursued this vessel across the high seas and through treacherous storms— keeping diligent watch, and protecting our country with the determination and patriotism that make Americans proud…”

 

[LSU-SIU]

Very true, however…. Take away chinas theft and what is the result?

At this point, any party can disengage from the system -- so the U.S. can cut them off, the U.S. can cut off everyone, and everyone can just unplug. Reset is going to happen at some point, I guess a party can decide now might be the time.

It would appear the current setup has run its course.

 

[HeuperDrive]

Cold War mentality now returning, lol.

When we said we wanted the 1980s back, I dont think we meant this.

 

[LSU-SIU]

JUST IN: The United States has seized two “ghost fleet” tanker ships including a Russian-flagged tanker linked to Venezuela following a multi-week long pursuit.

“In two predawn operations today, the Coast Guard conducted back-to-back meticulously coordinated boarding of two “ghost fleet” tanker ships— one in the North Atlantic Sea and one in international waters near the Caribbean,” Secretary Kristi Noem said.“Both vessels —the Motor Tanker Bella I and the Motor Taker Sophia—were either last docked in Venezuela or en route to it.”“

One of these tankers, Motor Tanker Bella I, has been trying to evade the Coast Guard for weeks, even changing its flag and painting a new name on the hull while being pursued, in a desperate and failed attempt to escape justice.”

“The heroic crew of the USCGC Munro pursued this vessel across the high seas and through treacherous storms— keeping diligent watch, and protecting our country with the determination and patriotism that make Americans proud…”

Trump Lafitte

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