The Venezuela thread

[jmacvols1]

let's see what happens to the Dem party if a corrupt leftist judge frees a narco-terrorist, murderer

 

[Firebirdparts]

Jeez, yes we all get it, there are differences from 30 years ago and regional differences from the Middle East.

The fact still remains, it’s been 80 years since we successfully executed any kind of nation rebuilding endeavors and this is not Germany or Japan.

Maybe it works out this time, I genuinely and really hope it does, but you are kidding yourself by discounting the last 30 years of blood and treasure spent on this type of policy for it to not work out.

I was very let down when, before invading the Middle East, George Bush said "we won't leave our people there for decades" because that's the only way that seems to work. Unfortunately.

Events subsequent to the war have been been very good for Germany and Japan. I'm happy for them. Germany is so wealthy they were able to re-incorporate East Germany. So people in forums can blubber negativity all they want, but some things really do turn out well.

I don't think it's all that tough nation building in Venezuela. I find it remarkable, in fact, that Chavez and then Maduro would have been able to make the Venezuelan people poor. It's shocking that any government, no matter how stupid, could do that.

 

[Firebirdparts]

You gotta wonder why it took so long for a superpower to do this.

Venezuela holds over a fifth of the world's oil.

Well, a lot of things might be happening because a superpower is interested in taking a hand. As China says "let us be your buddy" in the western hemisphere then things happen as a result of that.

 

[appvol]

Seems like that be the pot calling the kettle black here.

I thought the same thing when I read his post.

 

[jmacvols1]

 

[hog88]

How have our previous adventures in Latin America worked out? They really love us there you know.

I’ve never seen anything but love down there.

 

[LSU-SIU]

Nobody cares what you think. if Obama was back assassinating American citizens in the Middle East you'd be perfectly happy.

Or as an American, I don't see the point of any of it. It is what it is, I guess.

Papa Bush League stuff.

 

[Firebirdparts]

You might be surprised. In living memory, Venezuela was a prosperous country. I admit, though, that nobody wants to see a big marxist purge, right? And once you have that cancer, I don't know how you remove it.

 

[LargeOrange1]

Simple. The President of Venezuela has not sufficiently kissed Trump's fat white butt. And so they must be crushed.

Tissue? Tampon?

 

[Coy53175]

You sound like a third grade girl. Oh me oh my.

He had to speak to Monty The Pedo Lover in a third grade tone so hims itty bitty brain could comprehend.

 

[LSU-SIU]

You might be surprised. In living memory, Venezuela was a prosperous country. I admit, though, that nobody wants to see a big marxist purge, right? And once you have that cancer, I don't know how you remove it.

What does that have to do with anything? People believe that for this country. That country is going to be poor going forward as well. You are not concerned as to anyone's well being there.

 

[LargeOrange1]

like 99.999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999% of international cases we need to stay out of it.

no money, no troops, no blowing up ships in their waters.

Call 1-800-Waaa-Waaaa-Waaaaaa for counseling. Fellow Libtards are standing by.

 

[CobbVol]

Simple. The President of Venezuela has not sufficiently kissed Trump's fat white butt. And so they must be crushed.

U.S. reward for Venezuela's Maduro increased to $25 million in effort to capture him

The increase to $25 million reflects "the gravity of his crimes and the continued threat he poses," a senior official said.

www.cbsnews.com

 

[Majors]

There are thousands & thousands in the street celebrating their first taste to have some real freedom in their life from a real brutal dictator. But you hate Trump so much you can't see it bc of it.

That’s the confusing part to white liberals.

 

[LSU-SIU]

That’s the confusing part to white liberals.

If China bombed Washington DC, a good part of the population here would be celebrating. That doesn't mean its something I would want to be involved in. This is bush league stuff that I thought Americans were tired of.

Here is current U.S. foreign policy...

 

[Firebirdparts]

What does that have to do with anything?

I'm lost. I don't know what "that" means. Honestly I guess I doin't know what "anything" means either.

In fact, I think you would be better served to just say:

I believe that [something] is not related to [something] and then say why. Of course, these threads would be shorter.

 

[LSU-SIU]

I'm lost. I don't know what "that" means. Honestly I guess I doin't know what "anything" means either.

Your post.

 

[ButchPlz]

More tax dollars down the hole for who knows what actual reason, love it.

 

[midnight orange]

More tax dollars down the hole for who knows what actual reason, love it.

Most likely tax dollars to build the infrastructure for Exxon, Chevron, etc to move oil. We pay, they profit.

 

[BowlBrother85]

Clinton had the good fortune of the .Com internet boom. A chimpanzee could have balanced the budget when billions and billions of dollars and taxes were made out of thin air. That was a once in 100 years maybe event...like the Industrial Revolution. He wasn't a financial wizard. Damn sure wasn't a small government guy either. He was the best Democrat president in my 48 years of life though. By a mile.

Clinton would be a Republican in 2025. Right next to Trump on the political spectrum.

No, he wouldn't. That's stupid.

 

[ButchPlz]

Most likely tax dollars to build the infrastructure for Exxon, Chevron, etc to move oil. We pay, they profit.

Same playbook different century.

 

[EasternVol]

We didn't attack a sovereign country and their legitimate government. Continuing to say this lie either shows your ignorance or lack of education on the subject.

How does the 'legitimacy' of their government matter? It is a sovereign country.

 

[BowlBrother85]

Trump is accused going into a sovereign country to catch a criminal, Obama went into a sovereign country to catch a criminal

That is a gross over-simplification.

The "capture" of Maduro obviously involves a governmental regime change, and will require a commitment of considerable American resources (including time and multiple American administrations) to achieve stability.

The capture of Osama bin Laden did nothing more than hurt Pervez Musharraf's feelings for a moment but he sold some books with Simon & Schuster and got over it.

 

[midnight orange]

Same playbook different century.

It’s just the way it is now. There really isn’t a private sector anymore. Large corporations work hand in hand with the government. The corporations bribe the politicians who in turn grant largesse from the treasury and protect them from competition. The companies then act as a proxy on behalf of government to squash the mythical “constitutional” rights of citizens who might have unapproved opinions. Covid made this obvious to anyone with a room temperature IQ. We have far too few corporate bankruptcies in this country.

 

[ButchPlz]

How does the 'legitimacy' of their government matter? It is a sovereign country.

Venezuelans could have taken up arms and fixed their country.

Instead they largely ran away. Unfortunately they've been *****ing up a lot of the rest of South America in the process. Last year in Lima they were out protesting that the Peruvian government wasn't giving them benefits like they had at home.

It is not my job as an American to pay for this stuff. Everyone knows I'm tired of it for Israel, Palestine, etc., and I'm tired of it in our own hemisphere. Life is getting worse here in the US, it's time to turn our hand back into our own country.